King of the Pride
Creature — Cat
Other Cats you control get +2/+1.
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|Modern Horizons (MH1)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
King of the Pride Discussion
1 month ago
Yeah, Kaheera, the Orphanguard would be a reasonable replacement for Kemba, Kha Regent. I'd almost rather have King of the Pride for the additional +1 instead of vigilance. Where Kaheera, the Orphanguard is better is it can companion, however, means a bit of pivoting around combos and strategies with the restriction of the creature subtypes.
Some games Kemba, Kha Regent has made an impact, lots of the time, I feel like it's just wasting the equipment from other attackers to make vanilla 2/2 creatures. Depends on the situation. The more token makers the better value your get from Kaheera, the Orphanguard as well, so the direct replace does make it a bit slower. I just found Kemba, Kha Regent without a centralized equipment focus was too slow.
Dunno if that helps but Kaheera, the Orphanguard in the 99 is a fair trade, as a companion, means quite a bit of re-evaluation and rework.
1 month ago
Ok, so I totally get your focus on changelings, and it absolutely makes sense, but not including at least some lords from among Regal Caracal, Pack Leader, King of the Pride, Kaheera, the Orphanguard and Pride Sovereign seems like a wasted oportunity to have your tokens go giant.
Besides this, I really love the deck. I'll definitely get a copy of Rin and Seri if I can. That cuteness is just amazingly.
1 month ago
Thanks for all the discussion, glad you liked the deck enough to tweak and innovate it, I've been trying but as you can see it's still not quite there yet.
I like Kaheera, the Orphanguard, I actually play a Nethroi, Apex of Death brawl deck with it as the companion. Questing Beast is good with Kaheera, the Orphanguard and can hit planeswalkers, but he doesn't work with Arahbo, Roar of the World even though he LOOKS like a cat to me! Also, Nissa, Who Shakes the World creates Elemental creatures, so it's also not bad, Auspicious Starrix was also been okay, but in Commander all are a bit too slow, plus Auspicious Starrix only good because my brawl commander and things like Migratory Greathorn can trigger him, so nothing too exciting there. The +1 isn't quite a bit to get to a kill with infect, so have to decide with the changes to the companion rule, if it's still worth it, I like the flavor of it though, and it's about having fun as much as the pursuit of winning when your starting with Arahbo, Roar of the World as the commander anyway!
Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest has challenges too, but I like the flavor. That is 1) They are enchantments, which we really only have a couple good ones, Enlightened Tutor, Idyllic Tutor and Sterling Grove, usually I pull Sylvan Library as soon as I can and pay the 8 life a turn to cycle through cards, but for you, you need 2/3 tutors to get there so I might just go straight for combo pieces. Sterling Grove isn't highly exciting, but it can also protect your combo pieces too. Unfortunately Concordant Crossroads can't even get it there, because the Squirrel's are tapped.
TzickyT is right, Heliod, Sun-Crowned + Walking Ballista is still mana intensive, and doesn't go off quickly enough. I usually rely on early Infect to take out the Grixis () player first to avoid early Thassa's Oracle win. If there are several Fish-Consul deck's it's kind of hopeless as I haven't built in any Fish-interaction (like Hushbringer or Tithe). If you can hit the early win-con decks, I can often ramp/resolve the Heliod, Sun-Crowned and take them out. I'm usually not the biggest threat, often needs other to go for the win and get Counterspell too.
I don't have another viable win-con in the cat, T5-7 usually just rely on Stonehewer Giant to pull me what I need to eliminate, protection from sword and Grafted Exoskeleton for example. is a challenge because have no way, but rarely see in commander.
Mox Opal is reasonable replace for Birds of Paradise, don't forget Ancient Den + Tree of Tales are artifacts, and Inkmoth Nexus can become one in a pinch too. Here's the real challenge though Hypergeometric Calc you're only 13.6% to have 3 artifacts on T1 (8 cards drawn), but really 3 aren't T1 viable (Grafted and Swords), so it's more like 8.3%. T2 only 18.2%. T3 23.2%. So have to evaluate how many games are going beyond that and how far, otherwise Mox Opal going to be a dead draw too many games. We don't really tutor artifacts either beyond equipment once we're established. Steelshaper's Gift.
Rhonas the Indomitable is good because I find I multi-trigger his ability, where Arahbo, Roar of the World, I rarely use his secondary ability. Not sure what to do there, may just have rely on other tactics. Approach of the Second Sun is way way way to slow, don't do that.
Hunter's Insight I've had success with because it's instant and draws a lot of cards, Lifecrafter's Bestiary (mana sponge and we're not creature heavy), and Momentous Fall (better but still a light cost intensive CMC4+sac). Puresteel Paladin for me still needs more AF support to, sometimes, he doesn't activate his second ability which is unacceptable.
Greenwarden of Murasa is good late game, but I might go with the pressure of a Questing Beast that hits for 5 and nails a planeswalker over that late of a play. Plus what's he pulling back, your Infect, at that point probably won't connect with combat damage anyway?
With Chord of Calling you can still do your best to resolve a Felidar Sovereign at EOT to win, but I found I didn't have enough creatures to get it off quick enough too. I know I'm just stating problems, unfortunately, still working on solving them myself (or abandoned them). Emerald Medallion is not bad because it adds to your AF count, but problem is the Infect creature is and the double-strike is except Berserk but it doesn't help with that anyway!!
Bronzehide Lion I find too mana spongy too, saving mana for the wrong reasons, but he's recursive, so I don't unlike him haha. If your going Kaheera, the Orphanguard might consider King of the Pride, but I'm meh on him as well. Need some strong cats!
I do have a Cat tribal budget (for $50 commander league) Mirri, Little Kid Aggro, depending on how budget your budget is TzickyT, as I mentioned this one is restricted budget so it has some interesting card choices to keep under budget, games have an hour time limit too, so that also drove several aggressive vs. defensive choices as well.
Knixx, I'll go through your full list tomorrow, and see if I can think of anything that might work. Since you already have Earthcraft, feel there must be a secondary interaction to abuse it as well you could leverage.
Thanks for the discussion, appreciated, I'll add Earthcraft to my Alternative Synergies Excluded so others can see it as well. The Great Henge is draw and an AF but not super helpful for Mox Opal, but with the Earthcraft I feel drawing for each Squirrel (which is a 2/2) could also draw into an enabler (untap and creatures get haste and +x/+x where x is the number of attacking creatures, something like that, there must be in , and since you draw into it every time), problem is, can't make infinite Squirrel then because you draw out, but if some way to win with like 50 Squirrels, a win is a win you know. Lemme thing on it lol.
2 months ago
Hey, a little more info about Elemental Bond and how good of a repeatable draw source it can be because you have easy access to Kaheera, the Orphanguard's +1/+1 anthem for Cats. Bond triggers when tokens are created that's a reason it has so much potential with Cats. Anthem effects are called static abilities and each one is applied to Cats as they enter the battlefield.
King of the Pride is the best example of how good Bond can be as a draw source because any 1/1 Cat ETB with 3 power which triggers Bond. Bond + King + Brimaz, King of Oreskos/Leonin Warleader for example when you attack can create 3 power Cats and draw a card when each one is created. White Sun's Zenith creates 2/2 Cats, but with Kaheera these Cats ETB as 3/3s; each Cat will trigger Bond which can draw a lot of cards. Kemba, Kha Regent creates 2/2 Cats which with Kaheera are 3/3s when they ETB which triggers Bond each time.
Having two anthem effects on the battlefield such as Kaheera and Regal Caracal also makes any 1/1 Cat ETB as 3/3 to trigger Bond. In fact if you have Bond + Kaheera on the battlefield then Regal will draw three cards when it ETB.
There's two Ajani's that are budget and their ultimates create Cat tokens: Ajani, Caller of the Pride and Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants. Both these Ajani's +1 loyalty abilities can give Cats permanent pump with +1/+1 counters, but they do other things also. Adversary is the better of the two because it's -7 is not hard to achieve, a turn faster than Caller and if you get the emblem it's a repeatable source of creating Cats at your end step. Adversary can also provides something that Selesnya wants which is creature reanimation. Ajani can reanimate a one or two drop Cat such as Bronzehide Lion or Fleecemane Lion which can be helpful to recover.
2 months ago
Are there really enough cats (even with changelling) for King of the Pride to be tier 3?
Thanks for the list!
4 months ago
Also, I don't really like Nylea's Emissary. I'd cut that for Sacred Cat maybe, it has a sweet sinergy with Ajani's Pridemate.
Anyway, cool deck, hope your wife enjoys playing it. (:
5 months ago
In order to get King of the Pride into the deck, I actually decided to remove Gideon Blackblade. It's a great early pressure card, but I think the fast cats do that more than well enough without him. Moved to the Maybeboard for now.
5 months ago
I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks King of the Pride is gonna be an instant in! Great suggestion. Thank you. Also, Wily Bandar came out for Kataki, War's Wage. Really made good sense. Also removed Arch of Orazca and dropped a Flagstones of Trokair in it's place.