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Amass 1. (Put a +1/+1 counter on an Army you control. If you don't control one, create a 0/0 black Zombie Army creature token first.)
You and permanents you control gain hexproof until end of turn. (You and they can't be the targets of spells or abilities your opponents control.)
1 week ago
Lazotep Plating is solid protection in blue.
3 weeks ago
Gidgetimer has made some great suggestions for you to start off with. The only thing I would change is I would start with 10 ramp spells, due to your commander costing 6 mana to cast. I'd probably settle around 40 lands, especially if you go the landfall route, but 38 is a good number. You might not have to go as heavy on card draw spells, since your commander has card draw tacked onto it.
Keep in mind that with your commander in play, every land drop is also a card draw spell. With that in mind, I'd lean heavy into land ramp spells, like Rampant Growth, Three Visits, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, and you could even get into the 4 CMC versions of these spells. Tatyova, Benthic Druid is a good backup for your commander, too.
More interaction, especially along the lines of removal, is also another good way to give you staying power in the game, and Gidgetimer mentioned lots of good ones. I really like Gomazoa; that's the first time I've seen it, and a nice budget option to boot. Meteor Golem is pretty horrible in here, and I don't think it should ever really be run in Simic deck; it's a better fit in colors with trouble hitting enchantments, like black, red, and Rakdos decks. Don't forget counter-magic; that's essentially removal, as well, and most of it you can find at the 2 and 3 CMC range. Counter-magic can also double as protection for your important pieces, and you could also consider running something like Lazotep Plating to help out, too.
Hopefully everyone here has been able to help you out a little to get started. Please respond back to us, and give us a little more information on the route you want to take the deck, and what kind if budget your are working with. Then we can really focus things in.
1 month ago
Hi kimosabe! Thanks for the comment!
I’m really loving this deck despite only having one creature. For me the protection spells are helpful but I find myself holding up mana for a bounce spell like Unsummon to avoid removal, only because 3 players will likely have chances to remove Chun-li most games so if she’s going to be removed I just bounce her to my hand.
As for creatures I’ve got a few token makers that help the deck survive a ton. Spiritual Visit, Secure the Wastes, Recruit the Worthy, Rally for the Throne, Raise the Alarm, Midnight Haunting, Master's Call, Errand of Duty, Call the Coppercoats and Lazotep Plating. The tokens are fun to create every turn and can accumulate to be a pretty big board state fast.
While those creatures are strong and I appreciate your recommendations I just personally like the idea of owning a deck with 0 creature cards in it, just kind of funny and different.
If you have a chun-li deck I’d love to see yours, one thing I’ll add is that Release to the Wind is absolutely nasty in Chun-li, so if you have her I recommend that card.
2 months ago
Great looking budget deck, even after 5 years. I'd love to see an updated version with asztisanyi's suggestions and maybe even some newer cards. Ghoulish Procession comes to mind as it converts all non-token creatures into extra zombie fodder when they die, plus they're guaranteed to feed into Quest for the Gravelord if it's on the board. Effectively turning each non-token creature that dies into 2 or more counters with the potential for trades and/or an addtional 2 or more damage. Dreadhorde Invasion could also be a fairly decent zombie token generator, asuming you're not worried about losing life, and if the token is left unchecked it'll start regaining that life in the mid to late game. It also opens up the door to Amass cards. Untility cards like Callous Dismissal, Lazotep Plating, and Soul Diviner.
3 months ago
Well, something like Tamiyo's Safekeeping is super useful against a creature deck (say like this one), due to indestructible. Snakeskin Veil and Lazotep Plating also give +1/+1 counters, and so seem core to the deck. And the Budget Beasts deck I linked to does have a little bit of creature removal in Rabid Bite. I wouldn't say it was tuned for competitive play, though. How would you sideboard against it? Fog, I assume, but what would you take out?
5 months ago
I think I can help with this deck! I've built a lot of tribal decks and have pondered building Varina myself. I like to help thoroughly, so I am going to give a bit of feedback, and might separate the posts out for convenience. I'll also upvote it and draw some others to this page to provide feedback as well!
To begin with, I commend the choice of avoiding infinite combos. Though Varina has a few, she can be plenty powerful without them and while I play a lot of combo decks myself, it gets boring sometimes. I guess we'll start with cards to cut, and then we'll get to direction and cards to add! To begin with, the first thing to cut is lands. 43 is way too many for any deck that isn't a landfall deck. I realize that you are playing Field of the Dead and that lands help it, but you won't see that card every dame due to no tutors, and its potential is limited without access to green. Playing Field is fine, and you may even want to play Crucible of Worlds so you can just discard your lands and play them from your graveyard and for synergy with Field, but don't get too excited about it. 37 is the golden mean for most decks in EDH, and with an engine commander like Varina I'd play 35 personally, though 36 could be a compromise. I also don't think you need Flawless Maneuver. When your zombies die you can just bring them back! I don't think you need Reconnaissance either. Your Zombies are fodder for the horde, and you can just bring them back. Just don't attack with Varina and you have nothing you need to worry about protecting. Lazotep Plating is fine, but you'll mostly use it to protect Varina, so I'd think of it as a protection spell. Void Rend's mana cost is prohibitively highly (3 colors is too much). I'd just play Generous Gift instead. Smothering Tithe is a great card that I play in three of my decks, but I wouldn't play it in Varina. Its a slow grindy card more suitable to control and combo decks, and you'd rather be casting Varina on turn 3 and Zombies or Zombie spells every turn after. I'm not sure if cEDH is what you usually play, but cards like Stifle and Songs of the Damned are often a bit one off and limited for standard EDH. The latter could maybe be fine for flavor, but I'd definitely cut the prior. If you want a more flexible spell play Disallow which will be a lot more flexible. Nykthos Paragon is a neat idea because it does something with your life gain, but it is pretty high costed at six and isn't a Zombie, so I might not play it, but it will bring slow value if it isn't killed.
I'd also cut down on your card draw pieces. I never say this, but with Varina you'll see lots of cards, and can play a lot from discard or the graveyard, so I'd focus on the highest impact one and cut some of the bad ones like Plumb the Forbidden. Cards like this have limitations because you have to sac them (versus letting them die in combat), and you won't always want to do that. The best ones are the high impact ones like Teferi's Ageless Insight and Alhammarret's Archive. I'd also cut Bontu's Monument. The ramp isn't very good and the aristocratic effect isn't as good as you think its going to be.
Now for what's great here- all of your Zombies. Seriously, it's a great list, all of them! You also really want to play a few cards from your maybe board too. Syr Konrad, the Grim is a must play. Seriously, it'll be the best card in the deck bard none. It's not an infinite combo, but he's amazing with recursion cards, board wipes, and death (more on that below). You also need to play Haunting Voyage and Patriarch's Bidding. They are in your maybe board and are must plays!
5 months ago
Some more blue options: