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Blink of an Eye
Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. If this spell was kicked, draw a card.
1 month ago
Need something to bounce Enchantments and Planeswalkers like Blink of an Eye
2 months ago
The synergy with Induced Amnesia is fantastic!
I like the idea of the deck - seems very unique and fun. A couple suggestions you could consider: it looks like you're dabbling in the wizard synergy but you could go a bit deeper for even more synergy with cards like Cyclone Summoner, Docent of Perfection Flip, Minn, Wily Illusionist,Patron Wizard, Trophy Mage,Tribute Mage, Trinket Mage, Jace's Archivist and Azami, Lady of Scrolls
I think the above additions would help you keep the theme of your deck while offering more synergies all around. If you take this approach, you could also look to include Stonybrook Banneret as a budget medallion.
The rest are just decent control/draw.
Additionally, in keeping with the bounce theme you may want to consider Into the Roil, Blink of an Eye, Disperse, and maybe even Capsize or Snap the former three will let you bounce your own targets for more ETBs/protection and in a pinch they can bounce those pesky enchantments blue has so much trouble dealing with.
For counterspells, the lower the mana cost, the better the counter. there are some great budget options if you find you've always got a handful of cards for free counters (Misdirection Disrupting Shoal) but one of the classics that isn't too pricey isArcane Denial but I'm quickly growing to loveAn Offer You Can't Refuse and Swan Song
For removal, the bounce theme is always great but for those pesky indestructible creatures I auto-include Resculpt in every blue deck I make.
Overall your deck looks like a ton of fun to play already, just adding in my thoughts.
2 months ago
You cannot, soz.
Casting a spell with Living Lore's ability gives you the option of casting it without paying its mana cost. This is paying an alternate casting cost for the spell. Overload is another mechanic that lets you pay an alternate casting cost for a spell for a different result. You can not pay more than one alternate casting cost for a spell when you cast it.
Conversely you can still pay optional additional costs (and must pay mandatory additional costs) for spells even if you're paying an alternate cost for them, including no cost like with Living Lore. So if you cast Blink of an Eye, you have the option to pay the additional to draw a card, and if cast Vivisection then you still must sacrifice a creature.
5 months ago
zapyourtumor You were right, i realized Demilich wasn't doing as much as i thought when it comes to saving mana from its 1st ability & recycling instants/sorceries from the 2nd, as i think Blink of an Eye is better in recycling them. Same case goes for Plague Engineer in the sence of its usefulness overall so took them away. Thing in the Ice Flip is a fantastic card & works well in my instant/sorcery heavy deck. I added it to main, would you recommend having a playset instead of 3? Liliana of the Veil is a pretty cool card & added it to sideboard, might even place it as main after some further paytesting. Thanks for your adivce!
wallisface You were right on my land count, I was commonly facing with landpool issues so i did make my land count higher to 24 and now i dont have that problem anymore. The meta in my city & surrounding areas are really monster-heavy so that was the reason I placed heavy hitting destroy spells such as Damnation but I saw your point, as it could be more of a disadvantage than anything. Took it off the main & added only 1 on sideboard. As for Mishra's Bauble i saw it wasn't doing as much as I anticipated, but then again im a noob at MTG still & i might have been using it wrong. Tbh i dont know why Lurrus of the Dream-Den was there i must have placed it by mistake so took it off lol. In general i switched the sideboard as much as the main in order to be more consistent. Twincast is there just for the lols & it has actually made pretty funny plays, i mean 2 is always better is it not?
In general i appreciate your advice both of you, and let me know what you think on the upgrade i just did. Im a returning player that took like a 10-year hiatus from MTG because life happened and im catching up, & this was a first try to a midrange-control-ish deck that i really want to work and make it as good as can be. Thanks!
6 months ago
Isperia triggers each time she deals combat damage, so yes, double strike is your friend. Cards that help with that are True Conviction, Duelist's Heritage, and Fireshrieker. Some others I just found are Paladin Class which doubles as an Anthem and stax effect as well. Also Akroma's Will, while being a one shot effect it has other applications. Another interesting one is Avenging Huntbonder. While it doesn't fly it spreads nicely with each subsequent attack. Sigarda's Vanguard is better if you have ways to blink/flicker it.
If you want to go full on anthems it may be beneficial to consider a 'go wide' strategy as well.Favorable Winds, Empyrean Eagle, Sprite Noble, Serra the Benevolent, Thunderclap Wyvern (personal favorite), Inniaz, the Gale Force, Steel-Plume Marshal, Windstorm Drake, Kangee's Lieutenant, Gravitational Shift (I feel this is meta dependent), Kangee, Sky Warden. Rally of Wings is one time effect, but possibly relevant.
Aside from blue's signature Counterspell's for saving your board, there are a few options. Depending on your budget Teferi's Protection is an option as well as Flawless Maneuver. Sephara, Sky's Blade is specific to flyers. Avacyn, Angel of Hope and Eldrazi Monument are pricey but are an option. Bounce spells are versatile here because they can remove a blocker which also nets you handle knowledge, or save a permanent from destruction. Scapegoat at least let's you read them, minus 1. Single target spells like Blink of an Eye can save you racking up commander tax. For commander protection, you got the usual Boots/Grieves but Neurok Stealthsuit and Whispersilk Cloak offer more, the former can be uses as a counterspell of sorts for single target effects.
Hopefully that isn't too much info for ya. Not saying include them all, but whatever you feel works for you. Oh, almost forgot... looking at the Sphinx options only a few really stuck out. The first of which is Medomai the Ageless works with the double strike as well, however cannot attack during any extra turns. That said, you just switch you equipment or target over on the extra turns. Alhammarret, High Arbiter Can view a hand and lock a card in it. If you bounce a commander prior you can name the commander. Jelenn Sphinx while small in the front still offers an anthem on the attack. Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign, is iffy. I like the cost reduction but am not a fan of cards going to the yard up to you though. Atemsis, All-Seeing was something else I've been considering as an additional wincon. You can use Isperia to fetch cards of costs you're missing.
Ok, now I'm done for now.
1 year ago
Cool idea :)
What's the reason for not playing both Kiki-Jiki and Helm of the Host?
Magda, Brazen Outlaw might be a consideration since you already have some Treasure Token cards and as a token generator itself.
1 year ago
- Kin-Tree Invocation + Binding the Old Gods - Boneyard Lurker + Infuse with Vitality - Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner + Moritte of the Frost - Incubation / Incongruity + Quandrix Cultivator - Spellheart Chimera + Prismari Command - Final Payment + Humiliate - Zealous Persecution + Killian, Ink Duelist - Kaya, Bane of the Dead + Closing Statement
- Fleshbag Marauder + Brackish Trudge - Blight-Breath Catoblepas + Sheoldred, Whispering One - Audacious Thief + Unwilling Ingredient - Hagra Constrictor + Tergrid, God of Fright Flip - Blood Beckoning + Go Blank - Murder + Poison the Cup - Lazotep Reaver + Umbral Juke - Herald of the Dreadhorde + Feed the Serpent
1 year ago
Ok, so as a beforehand this may be a longer post because I'm debating turning my casual Orvar list into a cEDH list myself. So it'll be a bit of out loud brainstorming :P Hope it's helpful and not TLDR...
Lands: Tolaria West as an additional tutor for Mystic Sanctuary or Nykthos (or in a pinch a mana rock or pact of negation on a combo turn)
Swarmyard can provide some incidental protection for Orvar
Things I'm considering that aren't on your list Creatures:
Spellstutter Sprite With Orvar out it hits any two drop. being able to gradually increase it's effectiveness with one mana cantrips seems good, especially when you are also playing cloud of fairies... which leads me into
Glen Elendra Archmage is a little high on the CMC side, but we're already running lots of 4 drops and a six drop as a potential win con. So I think at first glance the downside is negligible. Plus it plays into the inadvertent fairy theme...
Artisan of Forms is literally the best creature on the field. Both hers and Orvar's ability trigger's on cast. So you just stack her trigger first then copy whatever she becomes and get that as the token. Instant speed Dockside Extortionist ?
Vedalken AEthermage Literally only running for wizard cycling. Most of our outlets are wizards. In your current list you have 8. all worth tutoring for IMO. I'm currently running like 9-10 so it's pretty impactful
Venser, Shaper Savant Acts like spellstutter sprite, but hit's anything. And you can just let the copy go away upon resolution of the legend rule.
Spells: For sake of brevity I'll just list the cards you don't have on your list that I'm considering and why I'm considering them...
Glamerdye can target lands (which is probably one of Orvar's strongest abilities) and it has retrace, so it's recurable, and instant speed. all plusses.
Dizzy Spell tutor or copy trigger. essentially a modal spell. very good.
Cerulean Wisps cantrips and untaps a creature, potentially very useful depending on cedh meta. I have Kraum and Pako in mine so having a blocker is often needed. Also can help slow annoying tymna.
Rescue is interesting, still not sold on it. But it does give you a copy of a creature, and allows you to save/replay an etb critter. Orvar is able to mitigate losing creatures by making copies of them usually, but he can't save himself and copying into a board wipe does nothing.
Blink of an Eye target's permanents, can draw you a card and there is another card with a different name that does the same thing
Flood of Recollection Pet card of mine, single use but I like it on turns I want to go off with High Tide and don't want to exile it with JVP or Snapcaster. works well with Narset's reversal too...which I'm not running lol.
Run Away Together considering this as a way to deal with a threat and copy one of my creatures.
Cards I love:
Energy Tap this is great. didn't even consider it. solid inclusion.
Time Spiral and transmute artifact... mentioning these just because I'm jealous...
Treachery Ditto ^
Sakashima of a Thousand Faces love the silly synergy with Nykthos. Ridiculous.
Pyre of Heroes This is silly, didn't even see this spoiled. Birthing pod in colorless? are they crazy!
Cards I'm "meh" on:
Memory Crystal You're only running (I think) two buyback spells. So most of the time it's a dead card. I see Drift of Phantasms, but id rather be tutoring for the buyback card or something more impactful. Also copying sapphire medallion helps buyback and other non buyback spells.
Drift of Phantasms very linear tutor in cedh imo. I get that it hits hullbreacher, spellseeker, etc. I think I would personally rather slot additional control. But if you love the card run the card.
Inga Rune-Eyes Not impactful enough for me in a 4 drop slot. scrying one statistically is akin to drawing half a card, so three is one and a half?. You could run the 3 drop fairy that draws you a card for more fairy synergy lol... sorry, maybe I have a fairy problem. Also, I'm not sure how often you'll get her second line to happen. I don't see how you trigger that without investing multiple cards to copy her? unless I'm missing something? does it happen often for you?
Grim Monolith without an infinite mana outlet I don't think it does enough. Also I didn't Sol Ring in your list easy swap?
Extraplanar Lens In general I think this is a bad card. ramp it out early and someone smashes it, your down a land and probably a turn. Plus you have to imprint a land every time you make a copy of it. so the downside for their removal becomes even greater in my estimation. Orvar already ramps well enough to not need this card. but high risk high reward I guess.
I'm also soft on the tribute/trinket mage. They're good for the thing they grab but they're not ultimately what I want to be copying. you could run Shipwreck Dowser and Salvager of Secrets instead and lean into the Archaeomancer synergies, but then our cost is getting higher, and obviously you could copy what they tutor for... back to the balance of creature targets vs permanent targeting spells...
I think that's it... If I missed why you are running something let me know, like I said I'm brainstorming myself so the discourse will be super helpful for me, hope this was helpful for you! Also I should go back and read comments... yeah I'm that guy...
Thanks for posting the list!