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Castle Locthwain
Land
This enters tapped unless you control a Swamp.
: Add .
, : Draw a card, then you lose life equal to the number of cards in your hand.
DreadKhan on
Mono Black Control
2 weeks ago
I've been using Hive of the Eye Tyrant in a Legacy deck, it's a nice option as the game goes longer, and if you draw it early you can play it untapped.
I think Thoughtseize is a very good card if you're not trying to sneak in stuff like Phyrexian Arena, Sign in Blood, and/or Castle Locthwain, if you're only paying life for Smallpox I think you're okay to run Thoughtseize. The versatility edge over Duress is considerable IMHO.
Hybrow on
Heart of Black Coal - Ayara ETB trigger EDH
2 months ago
Hey Profet93, thanks so much for the view and suggestions
Jet Medallion I originally had in deck, but found that the ramp didn’t help in my commander, and quite a few of the spells I play over and over don’t have any colorless costs, so I swapped it out for Bontu's Monument, which had the bonus of doubling my commanders ability.
Bubbling Muck – I don’t love the one-time use of it. Would take the space of something that I can use again and again in this deck.
Cabal Stronghold – I think this is a carryover from before I had a coffers. I could easily swap it out for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I actually have one sitting in a binder not getting used.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx – Of all the lands, this is the one I like the most. I checked and there isn’t one in my binder, but I do have sitting in a for-fun The Colossal Dreadmaw deck. Would probably swap out Castle Locthwain. The draw is nice but find I don’t generally need it.
Deserted Temple is ok, but I don’t have mana doublers and other than coffers (and I guess now Nythos there isn’t really anything I need to untap.
Thespian's Stage and Vesuva – I am not a huge fan of the copy lands, V in particular enters tapped, which I hate. And they are both dependent on me having something that is worth copying, which isn’t always the case.
Contamination – If I had a different playgroup, this would be an automatic add, but my friend group doesn’t love playing mass land hate. A Strip Mine is fine, but something that shuts down another player completely, we generally don’t play just to keep everyone having fun. Infernal Darkness is kinda the same thing, so going to pass.
Imp's Mischief I just checked, and I do not own one, but am going to have to add it to my next buy list. Mono-coloured decks have some real blind spots and having a quazi-counter available would be great.
Skullclamp is going to go on a sidelist for this deck for a while. My mono-red Purphy relies on it for draw, but so far with Ayara hasn’t really needed the extra draw very much.
Carnival of Souls – I did have this one in an early build of this deck, but with my wincon being Plague of Vermin this wouldn’t work, and I feel like in a 4-player game I am going to lose more life than I can afford.
Thanks again for the suggestions. I have already added the two lands.
Thrashzor45 on
The Adventures Of Danny Trejo
2 months ago
Could be worth doing some budget upgrades to the land base - there's been a few nice (and affordable!) land cycles that might help fix your colours as you play:
Some budget dual lands could be:
Festering Thicket Llanowar Wastes Necroblossom Snarl Restless Cottage Tainted Wood Vernal Fen Wastewood Verge
Wastewood Verge is more expensive but could be a potential future upgrade
Couple of utility options might be:
Castle Locthwain - Card draw Bridgeworks Battle Flip - Versatile land or fight spell
Argy on
CecilCêcil (Forgetful Fish in Orzhov)
3 months ago
I have an Orzhov deck I have worked on for ages.
This is the mana base. It might give you some ideas.
2x Blighted Fen
4x Brightclimb Pathway
Flip
2x Castle Locthwain
4x Caves of Koilos
4x Godless Shrine
4x Shambling Vent
1x Swamp
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2x Westvale Abbey
Flip
I use these for draw. Ob Nixilis Reignited, and Sorin, Grim Nemesis
It might feel like they are too late to help. If you have a midrange deck, turn five is really when you run out of cards.
kamarupa on
Golgari Scavengers
8 months ago
I have some suggestions. Feel free to ignore them!
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Unearth instead of Treasured Find.
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The Ozolith instead of or in addition to Fate Transfer - it's quite a expensive, so maybe you don't want to invest in it, but it's cheaper to cast and as a permanent, works statically, which is quite nice. The downside, in addition to its hefty price is that it's Legendary.
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Corpsejack Menace has long been a staple in golgari counters
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You didn't include "Budget" in your description or Hubs, so I'll suggest Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as useful lands. They might help your opponents mana-fix, too though. And of course, if they're too expensive, just disregard this. Other lands to consider: Castle Locthwain, Bojuka Bog, Darkbore Pathway Flip, Blooming Marsh, Deathcap Glade.
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Thoughtseize is a classic black spell, but only 2x isn't much, especially when it's your only means of removal. Golgari is arguably the best color combination for removal ever. Abrupt Decay and Assassin's Trophy are at the top of a long list of great removal spells, and both are exclusive to golgari. I'd suggest 2x of each, but either would be useful. The other could go in your sideboard. Since you are already running some sac outlet creatures, Fatal Push would be a good fit, too.
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Bow of Nylea is always good. It's another Legendary, so no more than 1x.
kamarupa on
1 year ago
Like wallisface said, this looks very susceptible to removal spells. 3x Loran's Escape is probably not sufficient. Invisible Stalker is a great creature for a deck such as this. If you can find creatures that have built in durability/protection, those tend to be favored in aura decks like this. To that end, if not creatures, there are def auras that can help give your creatures more staying power - Hyena Umbra being high on that list.
I don't think All That Glitters is worth it. It's half an Ethereal Armor at double the MV.
1xHall of Heliod's Generosity seems pretty valuable here. I also think 4 more dual lands would help, especially given how many spells you have that require either or WW or BB to cast. (something many people try to avoid in non-monocolored decks) And personally, when I play with black, I usually include 1xBojuka Bog and often 1xCastle Locthwain.
I also suggest limiting instants like Fracture to the sideboard as much as possible. You want/need as many enchantments down as possible. Use spells like On Thin Ice as much as you can. Classics like Journey to Nowhere and Oblivion Ring aren't the lowest MV or as fast as instants, but the bump to the enchantments that care is worth it.
The thing I really like about Kor Spiritdancer is the draw card. Almost every deck needs a way to draw extra cards, and repeatable effects are among the most powerful. That also makes your 'dancer even more of a target. It may well be easier to use different creatures and add a draw card spell than it is to protect and draw cards from your 'dancer. It's a tantalizing, but difficult creature to successfully build around.
When it comes to the sideboard, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to include spells duplicate mainboard spells. IE, Fatal Push isn't doing anything Path to Exile doesn't already do well. Kaya's Guile, on the other hand, using the sacrifice mechanic, does do something Path doesn't - it get's around hexproof AND indestructible. You might find Extirpate useful. Fracture should be in the sideboard. That eliminates the need for Mortify.
Sky_Blue_Skies on
"Baneslayer Black"
1 year ago
Hey many thanks! The Mutavault + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth package is definitely appealing and something I'd like to keep my eye on going forward, though I've opted out of using them at present due to mana consistency considerations with my 4x Castle Locthwain and 4x Bloodletter of Aclazotz, two absolute cornerstones of this build. (As far as I can tell from watching others play similar decks, you gain a lot of edges by more or less insuring that your mana only helps and virtually never hinders you--Mutavault, while very powerful, is also a recipe for occasional mana screw). Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is also (obviously) appealing if somewhat less competitive, but at this time I'm not even sure what I would do with the extra mana save for spending it occasionally on Tainted Adversary triggers!
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