Cumulative upkeep-Pay (Black) and 1 life. (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
If a land is tapped for mana, it produces (Black) instead of any other type.
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|Masters Edition II (ME2)||Rare|
|Ice Age (ICE)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Infernal Darkness Discussion
1 week ago
1.) Maximum hand size is increased to 8.
2.) Whenever you play your first land on your turn, draw a card.
3.) You may use a second or third color if your commander’s color identity has less than three colors. For each extra color London mulligan that many cards from your starting hand.
5.) All instances of “fear” and “intimidate” are errata’d and replaced with skulk.
6.) Enchant creature auras can enchant equipment. Equipping a creature also provides the aura’s effects. You must also pay the mana cost of each aura in addition to the equip cost to equip a creature.
I’m serious about rules 3 and 4. The rest aren’t meant to be taken too seriously.
2 weeks ago
Thank you folks for your comments and suggestions! I'll be addressing both of you and each of your suggestions in order of appearance within this message for the sake of being concise.
theseax After much playtesting, I have made the seemingly controversial decision of cutting Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth from the list. The pairing itself was a little too cute for my liking as I could never consistently boot it. Even then, on its own, Cabal Coffers requires three other land drops, specifically being swamps in order to net any sort of valuable return from it. Since the mindset of this deck is rather all-in, it often wants to pressure a win between turns 3 and 5, so I've personally opted in favor of a more consistent manabase by dropping the pair. As such, Manascape Refractor probably isn't for this deck I'm afraid. It sort of faces the same issue I had with running Urborg, making it rather dead outside of being used in conjunction with Coffers, especially since I wasn't on Mana Web either.
Meessee Chain of Smog is interesting, but I feel like it could often backfire onto me rather than being a comparable mass discard outlet. Arterial Flow seems solid, although I'm tending to favor permanents like Necrogen Mists and Bottomless Pit that can continuously accrue and churn out card advantage for me in the presence of Tinybones while disrupting my opponents. Tasigur's Cruelty is a rather high top end in the presence of Dark Confidant when I'm already running a risky top end on my curve with him.
Since I'm on Shadowbag, I greatly value the cleanup step at the end of my turn to serve as a sort of discard outlet in case I don't have Skirge Familiar or Zombie Infestation in play to do it for me. Anvil of Bogardan is probably not for my list.
Plain and simple, I like Karn, the Great Creator. Will consider.
For Geier Reach Sanitarium, I think my playgroup is going to appreciate me giving them looting effects a little too much, so I'm going to have to pass on that. I'm also not a huge fan of how Nezumi Shortfang Flip targets a single player and I don't get to see their hand and choose which card they discard.
I don't feel as though I have enough creatures to sacrifice consistently to Contamination in order to keep that sort of effect around, and through a similar vein, Infernal Darkness becomes heavily taxing on me with its cumulative upkeep trigger. I want the stax pieces I'm running to not heavily impact my lines of play while also being able to stick on the board once they resolve without any sort of maintenance conditions associated with them if that makes sense.
Conqueror's Flail is a little too dicey to run in my opinion. It's a bit expensive to boot for a Grand Abolisher effect, and I'm often sacrificing creatures on my board to Razaketh or fast mana outlets so that would be an added layer to play around and pay attention to. I like Defense Grid in here though, considering in conjunction with Shimmer Myr I could play it as a sort of interruption at instant speed to protect my combo from folding to interaction. It's just one of those cards that I should only play when I think I'm going to win and not play it just because I have to mana open to play it. The table often relies on interaction so I could otherwise kingmake if I'm not careful about it. Lastly, Boseiju, Who Shelters All probably won't get enough traction in this deck considering most of my instants and sorceries are either tutors or disruption. A protected Goryo's Vengeance or Shallow Grave would be nice, but if I was on more impactful instants like Ad Nauseam my answer might be a bit different.
Hope I addressed everything fully. Thanks again!
2 weeks ago
Hi, very nice deck, thanks for sharing it. I'm working on my own build of Tinyboy aswell, so I wanted to bring you some cards you may consider for yours:
Chain of Smog, Arterial Flow, Tasigur's Cruelty are some mana efficient discard spells that you may use on your turn to get card advantage, since the other engine cards only function during opponents' turn.
I hope to be of some kind of help to you, keep up the good work.
1 month ago
Q1: What is your primary wincondition? How do you intend on assembling and protecting your wincondition?
Q2: Second and/or third wincondition with the same 2 above questions?
Once you answer those questions, I can better help you.
Re: Artifact and Enchantment Removal......
Have you considered adding in some stax? You could do Bitterblossom and Contamination? Or just Infernal Darkness? Also having a token subtheme would help give the deck some direction and put black sacrifice effects to better use. This just seems like a goodstuff deck. What direction do you want this to go in?
3 months ago
grievances Always do my best to help. The deck is a difficult one to build, for sure. I will say, a viable build that I think could be interesting, although I'm not sure how good, is a Chaos stax build. I'm not sure how good it would be, but the general idea would be destroy lands, play more cards like Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire, Lurking Predators, Aid from the Cowl, Contamination, Infernal Darkness, Keldon Firebombers, Pandemonium, and a few others and just play top deck chaos stax. Use your commander for card advantage and shut the board down with jund hate. Take a look at this deck to get a general idea of what I'm hinting at.
Just an idea. Best of luck!
3 months ago
Have you looked into using cards with the Extort mechanic?
5 months ago
While I'm a huge fan of 38 lands, for a deck with a low curve and enough rocks, you could cut 1-2 lands should you wish. If you're going for the hatred win, you should also add Imp's Mischief. Since hatred is life loss as additional cost to cast, then it would suck if it gets countered and you still pay the life. Imps mischief "counters" counterspells to prevent this, can redirect some removal, some draw spells, and some extra turn spells. Highly recommended for any mono black build
Infernal Darkness acts as blue counter bait and can outright win you games
The redundancy of overwhelming forces and decree of pain is not needed IMO and raises your curve higher than needed. I would cut overwhelming forces as decree of pain is strictly better.
Very very surprised to see no Rings of Brighthearth! It doubles commander activation, works with fetches to give you more lands, top to draw more cards. If you ran Deserted Temple, then you could use temple, coffers, swamps, and rings to make infinite black mana and win on the spot. Not to mention doubling strip mine, wasteland, burnished heart and more.
I see no way for you to deal with artifacts and enchantments, before I make those suggestions, are you just trying to play around artifacts/enchantments and win through player removal?
Another option instead of vampire hexmage is Hex Parasite. It's repeatable and can be a way for you to kill walkers
Your deck seems like a combination of fast mana acceleration with a midrange game plan. How does it play so far? What do you feel are your biggest strengths and weaknessess?
5 months ago
Murderous Rider > hero downfall
Strionic Resonator to copy commander ETB, I see you already have Panharmonicron so it might not be necessary but redundancy could be useful
Aetherflux Reservoir to combo with top and bolas
What has been your experience with doubling cube? It seems win-more but then again, you do make a lot of mana. I see you also have Erebos and Arguel blood fest. Do you need the redundancy? I would say Necropotence fits better than blood fest
Blast Zone to get rid of problematic artifacts and enchantments if you can’t get meteor golem out
If you want to be janky, Kormus Bell urborg and massacre Wurm are a fun time XD
Infernal Darkness to cast on mainphase 1, then go to combat and mainphase 2. The opponents will need to spend mana they tap in response to infernal during MP1 or else it will fall out of their mana pool as you switch phases. This helps prevent interaction during your turn (aside from artifacts and mana dorks)
Command Beacon to help reduce commander tax
Overall I like this deck. I would personally go with 1, maybe 2 back up combos if all else fails. Any more might subtract from your overall game plan. +1