Legendary Creature — Demon

Flying, lifelink

Pay 7 life: Draw seven cards.

Browse Alters


Have (2) Azdranax , CompleteWaste
Want (1) bigred2728

Combos Browse all


Format Legality
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Griselbrand Discussion

TypicalTimmy on New Format: Rule 0

1 week ago

Thanks to the work of tiffanyann for this idea.

We often talk about "Rule 0"; What your deck does, what it's power level is, who your Commander is, if there are any infinite combos, etc.

But sometimes, Rule 0 is to ask the table if using an Unset Commander is okay. If using a Legendary Enchantment or Artifact or Planeswalker in the Command Zone is okay. If running Gisela, the Broken Blade  Meld Partnered with Bruna, the Fading Light  Meld is okay. Other examples are Stitcher Geralf and Ghoulcaller Gisa as Partners, or Hans Eriksson and Saffi Eriksdotter. Maybe you want to run Sword of Dungeons & Dragons in your D&D themed set. Maybe you want to run Surgeon General Commander. But there's more; Sometimes you want to play with a banned card. Maybe you have this killer Griselbrand build and want to see if it can withstand three opponents.

Rule 0 is important. It doesn't often "require" its own hub, but there are times when it could be useful. And, if the community accepts it as a unique hub, it could also open up more creativity because it pushes up against the boundaries of the RC.

After all, as long as your table is okay with it, then it's fine. If your table is fine with you running Iona, Shield of Emeria or Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Garruk, Apex Predator or Grimlock, Dinobot Leader  Flip then there is absolutely no reason why you can't or shouldn't be able to. All of these are not legal for use as Commanders within the Command Zone, but if your table is okay with it, then suddenly they are. Similarly, Iona and Grimlock can't be in the deck, even in the +99. If your table is okay with it, then it's fine.

Similarly, sometimes players build decks that run non-legendary creatures as Commanders. One very popular build is Shaman of the Great Hunt, and to a lesser extent Brutal Hordechief. In fact, one of the most popular decks on this site itself would be classified as Rule 0: Dune: He Who Can Destroy a Thing, Controls a Thing, by FenIsABasicSwamp.

So with that said, I propose Rule 0 as a hub. Since we need to be able to describe it in one or two short sentences;

  • "There are many rules to EDH. Rule 0 decks ask the table beforehand if it is okay to run silver-bordered cards, banned cards or cards that would otherwise be 'illegal' in the Command Zone."

Oof_Magic on What’s your “dick move” moment?

1 week ago

As a Prison player, salt and ‘dick moves’ are a workplace hazard.

1) In response to a turn 1 Island into Aether Vial I played a Pithing Needle on Vial. That agitated the opponent but he scoffed and folded to a turn 3 Ghostly Prison. Game 2 went a bit longer but Sphere of Safety drew out a toss of the hands and a salty scoop. Not so much a story of a ‘dick move’ but lots of scoffing, eye-rolling, and shrugging.

2) Same deck going against Grishoalbrand. They went for a turn 1 Faithless Looting (back when it was legal). I saw enough to respond with a turn 1 Pithing Needle on Griselbrand. He stated that that ‘wasn’t how the deck wins’. Mkay. He managed to reanimate Griselbrand on turn 2 with Goryo's Vengeance. I responded with Runed Halo on Griseldaddy. I never got to find out how his deck wins. I’m my experience, whether it’s myself or my opponent, one player allows the other to dig their own grave. I don’t know whether he was trying to be condescending or throw me off my mental game but I had never had anyone give live commentary on my play.

3) Same deck against Bogles. I don’t want to dismiss this player but I wonder how locked into a solitaire mindset Bogles players find themselves in. I don’t recall the whole game as it had been years but I know I was 2-2 paired up against a 4-0 so perhaps this player thought they were sailing to an undefeated finish? They would be denied by what had to be the most interactive opponent they had on the night. They learned the hard way that Runed Halo and Porphyry Nodes in fact do not target. They stuck around long enough in game 1 to see a win-condition and then just folded game 2 after getting shut out by Sphere of Safety. They weren’t super salty but I had had a judge called over so many times in a game. I think they were just put out that a middling record stuck around long enough to knock them off an undefeated perch and likely top prize over a split. With a middling record, I got nothing but practice. Was that a ‘dick move’ on my part?

enpc on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List]

1 month ago

I kind of get the feeling that he best thing you can do with Asmodeus the Archfiend is to activate his ability a bunch of times and while they're on the stack then to sacrifice him. So to be honest, he feels more like Razaketh, the Foulblooded (since Griselbrand lives up to his Griselbanned name) who sees much more play IN decks than leading them.

AtheistSupremacy420 on You can't spell control with out the trol(l)

1 month ago

you won't be casting the leviathan or bruna in a modern event because the game will be over by then. they cost way too much mana and you have no way of ramping into them or "cheating" them into play. in modern, anything cmc 5+ is considered really expensive. cards with a cmc that high are almost always ramped into (such as turn 3 Karn Liberated in tron), or "cheated" into play (such as turn 2 Goryo's Vengeance into Griselbrand ). a good control finisher would be something like Murktide Regent that you can cast for as little as 2 mana.

DreadKhan on Fairly Unpleasant Reanimator

1 month ago

Jtrpma Sorry to tag you out of the blue, but I thought this deck might have some interesting ideas if you are thinking about trying a more modern reanimator. I liked Apollo's deck, so I tried to think of something different yet with similar elements, and that wasn't hilariously higher budget. It's a bit janky in places, but even it's discard outlets are good attackers, and Griselbrand is bonkers.

tman007 on Neoform Affinity

2 months ago

Angel_Zero that's an interesting idea, thanks for the suggestion! I've been pretty happy with Craterhoof Behemoth and Sundering Titan as targets since they usually win the game as soon as they hit, but Griselbrand could definitely be nice in a grindier matchup. Do you think it's better than Behemoth or Titan in the main deck, or would it be better as a sideboard option?

Angel_Zero on Neoform Affinity

2 months ago

how about Griselbrand as a target? that's what other neoform decks grab, could be perfect since affinity tends to dump their hand

legendofa on Modern Reanimator, second draft

3 months ago

I'm hoping so. I like how Persist specifically can't grab Griselbrand . Hopefully there's some more Reanimator diversity coming soon.

Load more