Griselbrand

Legendary Creature — Demon

Flying, lifelink

Pay 7 life: Draw seven cards.

Putnamto on My Shadowborn Apostle Deck

1 month ago

ChasingTurtles

if i were to go that route i would ditch the servitude and just go B/g for my colors, Aetherworks Marvel is also something to look at when brewing your deck, esentially allowing you to do the apostle sacrificex2

my apostle deck runs light on demons actually, it has four Rune-Scarred Demon two Lord of the Void and a Griselbrand its not to hard to get all of those demons on board at once, and at that point you have probably already won, or somebody board wipes.

i also tried putting in demons that could not be cast like Master of Cruelties or Sire Of Insanity but they always somehow end up in my hand, and they arent to useful in this situation anyways

chromiumthemutable on

2 months ago

Isn't Griselbrand illegal in EDH?? Looks cool though

smilodex on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List]

5 months ago

@Nonary27: Runo has quite some hoops to jump through, to use him effective. But when you achieve to flip him, I think he's a 'high' mid Tier commander. He only cost 3 mana for a 1/4, is quite decent because he's immune to Pyroclasm/Abrade type effects. Like you already mentioned, the lack of green is a big downside, because the deck is lacking ramp, the green creature topdeck-tutors and all the good green/blue sea creatures.

Aesi is in casual EDH, the better Tatyova. But in cEDH the difference between 5 and 6 mana is huge, since the games don't last as long in battlecruiser. Still, Aesi isn't two ranks below Tatyova.

@Sephyrias: If wizards would print more broken cards like Griselbrand/Asmodeus the Archfiend or Time Vault, Mairsil could reach a higher tier, but currently there are a lot better grixis commanders. Also the deck runs a lot of "bad" cards, which are only good with Mairsil and when you remove/counter Mairsil you're stuck with a lot of mediocre cards in your hand.

@Nonary27: like enpc already mentioned, Omnath can be abused with Food Chain + Squee, the Immortal so cast Omnath infinitely. In casual EDH you can build him as an Elemental tribe-commander or as landfall commander, but in my opinion I wouldn't build him that way, because there are a lot of better choices to build a landfall commander.

@Hydragal: Vega can win with Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal + Thassa's Oracle and Ranar has also some infinte combos to close out the game like: Rest in Peace + Altar of Dementia etc.

Sephyrias on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List]

6 months ago

Mairsil can also serve as a wanna be Griselbrand by exiling Asmodeus the Archfiend. Might be stronger than assembling and exiling multiple combo pieces.

Reznor31 on Manaless Dredge - Combo Version

7 months ago

Im personally a fan of using Griselbrand over Hogaak or Ashen due to the ability to trigger 7 different dredge instances when he hits field so you can get your combo. He's sizeable too to win via combat dmg if he survives a turn and regain your life back.

TypicalTimmy on New Format for EDH: Rule …

7 months ago
  • can't add companion rules text
  • adds partners with rules text
  • what is this logic, you speak of?

I think the issue with Companion is that it begins outside the game and adds a 101st card to the deck. Additionally the Companions all come with deck construction restrictions, while anything you add Companion to does not.

Partners With, while pushing it to the furthest of extremes, is still within the nature of a fun casual deck, allowing players to partner up legendary creatures they have always wanted to. While this does open some horrendously game-breaking combinations, that is all part of the fun. If your table is okay with you running Griselbrand with Snapcaster Mage, I mean... I hope you have your will prepared because u gonna die my fren. That's some serious umph. Don't expect the table to go lightly on you for that noise.

TypicalTimmy on New Format: Rule 0

8 months ago

Thanks to the work of tiffanyann for this idea.

We often talk about "Rule 0"; What your deck does, what it's power level is, who your Commander is, if there are any infinite combos, etc.

But sometimes, Rule 0 is to ask the table if using an Unset Commander is okay. If using a Legendary Enchantment or Artifact or Planeswalker in the Command Zone is okay. If running Gisela, the Broken Blade  Meld Partnered with Bruna, the Fading Light  Meld is okay. Other examples are Stitcher Geralf and Ghoulcaller Gisa as Partners, or Hans Eriksson and Saffi Eriksdotter. Maybe you want to run Sword of Dungeons & Dragons in your D&D themed set. Maybe you want to run Surgeon General Commander. But there's more; Sometimes you want to play with a banned card. Maybe you have this killer Griselbrand build and want to see if it can withstand three opponents.

Rule 0 is important. It doesn't often "require" its own hub, but there are times when it could be useful. And, if the community accepts it as a unique hub, it could also open up more creativity because it pushes up against the boundaries of the RC.

After all, as long as your table is okay with it, then it's fine. If your table is fine with you running Iona, Shield of Emeria or Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Garruk, Apex Predator or Grimlock, Dinobot Leader  Flip then there is absolutely no reason why you can't or shouldn't be able to. All of these are not legal for use as Commanders within the Command Zone, but if your table is okay with it, then suddenly they are. Similarly, Iona and Grimlock can't be in the deck, even in the +99. If your table is okay with it, then it's fine.

Similarly, sometimes players build decks that run non-legendary creatures as Commanders. One very popular build is Shaman of the Great Hunt, and to a lesser extent Brutal Hordechief. In fact, one of the most popular decks on this site itself would be classified as Rule 0: Dune: He Who Can Destroy a Thing, Controls a Thing, by FenIsABasicSwamp.

So with that said, I propose Rule 0 as a hub. Since we need to be able to describe it in one or two short sentences;

  • "There are many rules to EDH. Rule 0 decks ask the table beforehand if it is okay to run silver-bordered cards, banned cards or cards that would otherwise be 'illegal' in the Command Zone."

Oof_Magic on What’s your “dick move” moment?

8 months ago

As a Prison player, salt and ‘dick moves’ are a workplace hazard.

1) In response to a turn 1 Island into Aether Vial I played a Pithing Needle on Vial. That agitated the opponent but he scoffed and folded to a turn 3 Ghostly Prison. Game 2 went a bit longer but Sphere of Safety drew out a toss of the hands and a salty scoop. Not so much a story of a ‘dick move’ but lots of scoffing, eye-rolling, and shrugging.

2) Same deck going against Grishoalbrand. They went for a turn 1 Faithless Looting (back when it was legal). I saw enough to respond with a turn 1 Pithing Needle on Griselbrand. He stated that that ‘wasn’t how the deck wins’. Mkay. He managed to reanimate Griselbrand on turn 2 with Goryo's Vengeance. I responded with Runed Halo on Griseldaddy. I never got to find out how his deck wins. I’m my experience, whether it’s myself or my opponent, one player allows the other to dig their own grave. I don’t know whether he was trying to be condescending or throw me off my mental game but I had never had anyone give live commentary on my play.

3) Same deck against Bogles. I don’t want to dismiss this player but I wonder how locked into a solitaire mindset Bogles players find themselves in. I don’t recall the whole game as it had been years but I know I was 2-2 paired up against a 4-0 so perhaps this player thought they were sailing to an undefeated finish? They would be denied by what had to be the most interactive opponent they had on the night. They learned the hard way that Runed Halo and Porphyry Nodes in fact do not target. They stuck around long enough in game 1 to see a win-condition and then just folded game 2 after getting shut out by Sphere of Safety. They weren’t super salty but I had had a judge called over so many times in a game. I think they were just put out that a middling record stuck around long enough to knock them off an undefeated perch and likely top prize over a split. With a middling record, I got nothing but practice. Was that a ‘dick move’ on my part?

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