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Tariel, Haunter of Graves

Commander / EDH

shoeface33


Description

This deck was originally based on the Heavenly Inferno deck that my friends got me for my birthday 5 years ago, since then I've just been tweaking and editing it with whatever I've acquired (or bought in a few situations). Any suggestions?

I find this deck plays really well in all game types (1 on 1 EDH, against 60 card decks, planechase and in big multi-player games). I changed my commander to Tariel, Reckoner of Souls originally because the deck was too fast against my mate and this was fairer but I actually found that by loosing Kaalia of the Vast from the command zone I could change the flavour of the deck into something much more fun and a deck which actually plays much much better :)

The deck has evolved now so that it doesn't always need Tariel, Reckoner of Souls in play to be a strong force. In my meta, it usually has answers to most things.

Usually at least one thing becomes indestructible which always becomes a threat. I find the balance is quite nice at the moment. Although it can be a little slow at times, late game this deck powers through and becomes a force to be reckoned with.

Also just found out there is an infinite lifegain combo involving Boros Reckoner, Darksteel Plate/Avacyn, Angel of Hope and any form of life gain (Victory's Herald or True Conviction etc). Completely accidental but cool :P

Any new flavours people could recommend could be great to try out :)

Suggestions

Updates

I went to gatecrash pre-release and traded in some cards i was either not using or didnt want at the Magic Madhouse stall, the highlights being 3 Falkenrath Aristocrat and a Deathrite Shaman (bit silly i know but i honestly have little or no use for them as they dont fit my meta and i play edh :PSo, got some new cards, 10 in fact :)

Angel of Serenity - I really like this card, not only does it allow me to remove my opponents threats but it gives me some more needed graveyard recursion whilst still fitting the theme of the deck. Plus its a mythic rare, 7 mana angel... Kinda made to go in this deck really :P

Iona, Shield of Emeria - Proxied it in a mates deck that he was playing and id forgotten just how good she was, replaced Razia, Boros Archangel who i seldom ever used

Sword of War and Peace - OMG i didnt realise just how good this card actually was! Has won me a few games so far and has caused some major problems for my opponents, really loving this card so far :)

Obzedat, Ghost Council - Absolute nightmare at pre release but managed to trade for one. It fills the 5 mana spot in my deck really nicely (as there wast much there before :P) plus in my meta (heavily focussed on board wipe as we have a guy who plays Child of Alara which has triggered everyone else wanting to blow the board up more) really hard to get rid of due to the semi phasing nature of it. Plus i love how the life drain can be so small. In a 3 player game, drain each opponent one after the other, they dont care too much co theyve lost 2 but i've gained 6 (which has saved me before!)

Sword of Feast and Famine - A much needed addition to this deck. Sometimes felt like i had Curse of Exhaustion on me during late games. Great stuff to play, but only enough for one each turn, this has allowed me to drop Rakdos, Lord of Riots, swing, untap and play about 4 creatures

Beacon of Unrest - Always been a card ive liked and the fact its recursion that cycles back into the deck (plus it can target my own stuff to) is just great

Luminate Primordial - Once again more removal but in creature form (seems t be the focus of this update a little :P) been really good in play so far, a solid addition to the deck. Plus the vigilance fits really well in a sub theme i have and he does love to have a sword or some armor...

Grave Betrayal - it was a hard choice between this or Debtors' Knell, in the end i didnt have enough money plus this can get multiple things if the board is wiped and i ave avacyn in play. Havent had a chance to play yet (well, i did but it was destroyed instantly by Bolas....)

Treasury Thrull - My main reason for chosing Orzhov at one pre release was purely to get this card. The extort tigger is nice for a little extra life and the ability for recursion is great, works really nicely wiht Angel of Serenity i find :)

Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite - need i say more? (also it replaced Archangel of Strife because that card has resulted in me getting killed a few times so this is a much much better card. Same cost but good for me, bad for them. It also completes my set of praetors in this deck and in my collection :))

Decks power level has raised drastically since putting the update in, mana base still seems to work (replaced 2 mountains for the last 2 guilldgates) and plays brilliatly now

Comments

Lycasta says... #1

First of all that's a pretty nice deck.

I love Painful Quandary , you could go a little further controlling your opponent and include Stranglehold , Curse of Exhaustion and/or Nevermore for some really annoying Commanders.

I would prefer Swiftfoot Boots over Argentum Armor and I would also choose Unmake before Wrecking Ball .

Obviously you could use the fetch lands ( Arid Mesa , Bloodstained Mire , Marsh Flats ) and the shock lands from RtR and Gatecrush ( Blood Crypt , Sacred Foundry , Godless Shrine ) to thin out your deck and fix the manabase in the early turns, but that is a matter of money-invenstment.

You can take a look at my Kaalia deck (Kaalia and her amazing friends) maybe you will find some "inspiration".

December 30, 2012 10:17 a.m.

Enratic says... #2

This is a really good deck. You did a great job creating it. I also run Tariel as my general. Some cards from my deck that might be useful are Geth, Lord of the Vault , Grimoire of the Dead , and Mizzium Mortars . Geth and Grimoire both reanimate opponents creatures like Tariel does. Mortars can kill something or act as a board wipe. Board wipes are extremely good with Tariel because you can knock out everything of theirs and then gain control of it. Really cool deck and +1!

December 30, 2012 1:49 p.m.

shoeface33 says... #3

Cheers guys :-)I used to run Stranglehold in here, but in my meta, its not too relevantNevermore is a great idea though, may look into that :-)I may try Swiftfoot Boots and see what happens. I just love putting Argentum Armor on tariel though :p a 10/14 vigilance is always a big problem lolUnmake is anither great idea, ill have a look :-)In terms of lands, im not a huge fan of the fetch lands and id love shocklands if i could get hold of them. With rakdos as high as it is in standard atm, they are hard to find =/ i will try to get some from gtc though :-)Im actually just putting geth in now lol. I love re amimating opponents stuff as one of our guys plays a 5 colour Child of Alara deck that explodes all the time lolCheers for the feedback guys :-) really appreciated :-)

December 30, 2012 2 p.m.

Chubbub says... #4

Vault of the Archangel and Sorin, Lord of Innistrad are wicked good. Please comment on my deck deck:palisade-protection. +1

December 30, 2012 2:03 p.m.

shoeface33 says... #5

I may see if i can persuade my mate to trade me his Vault of the Archangel ... :) i really hope i can :P

Not so sure on sorin tbh, not a bit fan of him

January 3, 2013 8:29 a.m.

shoeface33 says... #6

New things have been added to the deck including an Iona, Shield of Emeria , Sword of War and Peace and Sword of Feast and Famine !! i will post up changes soon.

Anymore comments would be greatley recieved

February 1, 2013 2:20 p.m.

miracleHat says... #7

why obzedat? it doesn't seem to work in here.

February 5, 2013 5:09 p.m.

shoeface33 says... #8

fills in the 5 mana slot, plus my meta is heavily based around continual board wipe (Child of Alara , Planar Cleansing , Plague Boiler , Lavalanche etc )so his ability to dissapear is incredibly usefull to meany replacement ideas?

February 6, 2013 6:23 a.m.

MartialArt says... #9

Everything looks good but I'm missing cards like Entomb and Buried Alive to get a better use of your commander and some ramp cards like Sol Ring , Darksteel Ingot , Coalition Relic , Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus to get your commander and your other creatures out faster.

Since you've got a pretty high mana curve I would suggest to add all of those AND heavy ramp cards like Grim Monolith , Basalt Monolith , Mana Vault too. Eventually Mana Crypt too but I'm no big friend of it since it can kill you with constant damage you can't prevent like you can with Mana Vault .

February 6, 2013 6:36 a.m.

MartialArt says... #10

Sry. Forgot that your commander only targets opponents graveyards. Forget about Entomb and Buried Alive and only take the ramp suggestions please.

February 6, 2013 6:38 a.m.

Lycasta says... #11

Hey nice update, most of the choices are really awesome now the deck looks way more powerful.

There is only one thing I don't understand. Is there any combo with Spitemare ?

If there isn't I would replace him with Sun Titan who can get you your swords and hexproof/shroud artifacts back.

Also since Angelic Skirmisher is printed, there is no need for card:Victory's Herald.

February 6, 2013 6:45 a.m.

shoeface33 says... #12

Hey guys. Cheers for the comments :)

@martialart: im already running Sol Ring and Darksteel Ingot . But i will definitley look into your suggestion. Espescially Gilded Lotus , slightly underestimated hoe good it was until a mate got one!

@lycasta: errrm not really. Its just a really nice blocker. Its ben replaced by the new 3 mana minotor wizard from gatecrash who does the same thibg but it a little cheaper and can gain first strike (who's name also evades me right now)The titan may be a really good idea, hadnt thought about that. It would also mean i have a conplete set or praetors and titans then lol.

Cheers again guys

any comments +1s would be greatly appreciated :)

February 7, 2013 4:25 a.m.

Lycasta says... #13

How has Chandra, the Firebrand been working for you?

I somehow think that Quicksilver Amulet would make your deck even more fun.

For example:

EOT using Quicksilver: Sheoldred, Whispering One , Angel of Serenity ,

Kaalia of the Vast , Balefire Dragon and Rakdos, Lord of Riots get "haste".

Or as reaction to mass removal like Wrath of God : Avacyn, Angel of Hope

Single / Multi target removal in instant speed: Inferno Titan , Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , Angel of Despair , Luminate Primordial ,Angel of Serenity and Grave Titan .

February 7, 2013 6:05 a.m.

shoeface33 says... #14

I have been thinking about maybe taking her out. Shes usually been quite good at pinging tokens and more than anything, causing a distraction :-P my mates are terrified of her!Hmmm, thats a good idea. At the very least it would also speed up creature drops early on and maybe allow amd extra creature later too (a 6 or 7 plus a 4) may work really wellCheers for the idea

Main cards im gonna look into is Gilded Lotus and Quicksilver Amulet

Does anyone have any good card draw ideas perhaps? Maybe a Bloodgift Demon as he fills my 5 mana slot nicely?

February 8, 2013 5:16 a.m.

shoeface33 says... #15

Im also looking for a better name for this deck. Any ideas?

February 11, 2013 4:17 a.m.

MartialArt says... #16

How about "Haunting graves" or something like it to resemble the graverobbing effect and that you kill your opponents with their own creatures?

February 11, 2013 6:33 p.m.

miracleHat says... #17

how about "stealing the graves"

February 11, 2013 6:39 p.m.

Chubbub says... #18

What do you think of "Mausoleum Marauders." Also, Dread Slaver might be useful.

February 11, 2013 6:56 p.m.

shoeface33 says... #19

Dread Slaver is a great card but the problem is he's just too small =/ what about something like Tariel, Haunter of graves? (kinda combination of the ideas :) )

February 12, 2013 5:46 a.m.

Ixthinon says... #20

Hey man deck looks good. There are a few cards like the Congregate and the card:Archangel's Light which are not going to help you most of the time. I mean yes you can gain life but if there are tons of hostile creatures on the board why not have a few more sweepers like Wrath of God or Damnation . The 4 CMC boardwipes are really handy.

February 12, 2013 3:45 p.m.

shoeface33 says... #21

Hey

If i do swap Congregate it will profanity be for Stine of the suggestions above such as Gilded Lotus or Quicksilver Amulet I may look into the cheaper sweepers, but im UN sure of the benefit. As I've said before, my meta is heavily based on others board wiping. Tbh i wasn't the deck to become a bit faster, maybe a but of card draw out have more self recursion =/Cheers for the input, i will look into things and see what i can find and what fits:)

Keep the comments and +1s.coming guys :)

February 13, 2013 3:21 a.m.

switch says... #22

nice deck ! i just throw Treacherous Urge if you didn't considered it !

March 7, 2013 2:34 p.m.

hakokoro says... #23

why have Underworld Cerberus ?It goes against your commander in every way

May 13, 2014 9:45 a.m.

shoeface33 says... #24

Treacherous Urge does seem like a really good card, and its uncommon so its cheap too XD

It does go against it, hence why i replaced it :P Originally i miss read it and thought it was everything into play which isnt too bad, but back to the hand just clogged everything up :P

May 15, 2014 9:23 a.m.

Bruna, the Fading Light and Gisela, the Broken Blade are a couple of Angels you might consider running. When you can get them to meld together it's just badass, and they're also a good standalone cards. The first can resurrect powerful creatures from your graveyard, and be an annoying defensive beater, and the new Gisela has pretty strong abilities and stats for her cost.

You can never have too many boardwipes in commander, and your deck style can advantage of opponents' dead creatures, so Wrath of God is a viable inclusion.

Aurelia, the Warleader is a pretty powerful creature that can help you get the alpha strike in.

Crackling Doom is a pretty scary Mardu spell in multiplayer. Also kills valuable creatures for you to steal!

Anguished Unmaking gets rid of creatures you can't resurrect such as Eldrazi titans, and Darksteel Colossus/Blightsteel Colossus, and anything else that's particularly problematic.

Swords to Plowshares is premium spot removal that again gets rid of creatures Tariel can't steal, or can stop combos.

Mortify is the strict upgrade to Murder.

Phyrexian Arena is an excellent card advantage tool.

December 14, 2016 4:37 p.m.

scheerlc8520 says... #26

if you want the rakdos colors my Alesha of cruelties deck is much cheaper and is very effective and you might find a couple cards in mine that you want in yours such as Deflecting Palm

March 14, 2017 10:10 p.m.

nyctophasm says... #27

I know you said that stranglehold wasn't a card you found useful, but if you wanted to be evil, you could include its combo piece and play Maralen of the Mornsong + Stranglehold . Can you tell I own a stax deck? And yet, I don't play that one because I know my friends would kill me. Still, I love that combo so much!

May 22, 2017 9:04 p.m.

WesomeNight says... #28

you have quite a few white and red instant spells maybe you should consider Sunforger and possibly reiterate.

November 8, 2017 1:45 p.m.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.

Cards 100
Avg. CMC 4.67
Tokens 3/3 Wurm, 2/2 Wolf
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