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Lord of the Void
Creature — Demon
FlyingWhenever Lord of the Void deals combat damage to a player, exile the top seven cards of that player's library, then put a creature card from among them onto the battlefield under your control.
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Lord of the Void Discussion
2 days ago
You seem to be running relatively few creatures and tutors to find creatures with, particularly your Deceiver. A bit more ramp could also help you bring it out faster. I also found Sliver Queen to work better than Karona, False God since it produces tokens and doesn't go over to your opponents, but Karona fits better with the idea of deception.
Beguiler of Wills is amazing because it can steal all the best creatures from your opponents if you have enough creatures, with each theft allowing you to steal bigger creatures.
Hero of Bladehold is excellent when it's top of the library for Deceiver since the Battle Cry stacks, but also generates a good number of tokens on her own.
Sharding Sphinx is also good at generating tokens and can grow your army exponentially.
Lord of the Void also has a powerful effect if you can clone it.
Rite of Replication is a good backup for Deceiver, and also works on the Deceiver to let you scry through your deck for the right creature.
Do check out my Deceiver deck and let me know what you think!
3 days ago
Hi shub, I was glad to find your deck since I couldn't find others that were focusing on Deceiver of Form. Since I've been finetuning my own Deceiver of Form deck, I do have some thoughts and suggestions.
A token strategy would create more bodies to be transformed by Deceiver of Form. Awakening Zone and From Beyond ramp you while also providing bodies. Utvara Hellkite squares the number of creatures you have by spawning dragons.
Conduit of Ruin searches for the Deceiver, and also reduces the cost of your creatures.
Lord of the Void is good on its own and ridiculous if you have an army of them.
Savage Ventmaw gives so much mana if you attack with a few of them.
Avatar of Woe goes well with the Deceiver and doesn't wipe your army unlike Elesh Norn without Mirror Gallery.
Gilt-Leaf Archdruid can steal all the lands from a player if you have at least 7 creatures, although you aren't playing other druids to benefit from it without the Deceiver.
Scroll Rack is really good for setting up creatures on the top of your library.
Anyway, it's great to see a Deceiver of Form deck. Do check out my deck too and let me know what you think!
4 weeks ago
Mardu doesn't have a lot of great drawing, you can try and force draw, but if that's the strategy then play Grixis instead . Some longer games, until we get recursion online may be running card to card sadly.
Because of the lack of draw, if Kaalia of the Vast isn't being hyper-controlled, I already find that OFTEN I attack, and have no A/D/D to play as-is, if there was a way (there is: Wheel of Fortune/Dragon Mage/Etc.) to consistently draw into multiple A/D/D, it might be viable, even with the creature count I am running, it's already too lean without doubling the Kaalia of the Vast triggers.
If you don't have an A/D/D Strionic Resonator is a dead draw, I'd probably rather draw another A/D/D in that case. It has two requirements that are too difficult, those being 1) It need a Kaalia of the Vast on the battlefield, not being controlled 2) It needs A/D/D in hand (Even if it's just 1 with a useful ETB) to be free cast by Kaalia of the Vast. If both these conditions aren't true Strionic Resonator just sits there. Maralen of the Mornsong is another example like this, was a lock down queen for me, but when I draw her without a Stranglehold it was a dead draw, and found it had to come out ultimately.
It's rare, like almost NEVER, that I cast any Angels/Dragons/Demons that have ETB triggered abilities to abuse from my hand. If you're at the point your hard casting A/D/D you've already lost. If you are casting them, you won't be having to spare for the Strionic Resonator anyway.
Strionic Resonator makes you over-commit. If it's running effectively then you're already leading, If it's a dead draw you're already behind. As a mid-range strategy it doesn't change your fate. If Kaalia of the Vast is being controlled it just stalls you further, if she is not controlled, then it over-commits you and walk into a Terminus or such.
I'm trying to cast Kaalia of the Vast turn 2, 3, or 4 with haste. I'll never have an extra on those turns to double her or a A/D/D triggered ability. If I'm waiting until turn 6-7 to attack with Kaalia of the Vast probably other Commander's are in combo mode, or control/blockers/Etc. or so extreme it's not going to work. I need to have her swing an attack and drop in a controlling A/D/D before other decks establish their plan.
Kaalia of the Vast IS the mid-range strategy. Tutoring Buried Alive + Reanimate is the primary Win-Con. Buried Alive: Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Karmic Guide + Restoration Angel, Reanimate > Karmic Guide > Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker (Copy Karmic Guide) > Restoration Angel > Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and attack with Infinite Haste Restoration Angel copies. I don't need cards that's support/strengthen my mid-range strategy.
I would suggest there are only 6 prime targets (6/99=6%, or if you assume it's turn 5 39.5% to have one of the 6): Angel of Despair, Angel of Serenity (Situational? 6 Targets?), Karmic Guide (Situational, 2 Targets?), Lord of the Void, Rakdos the Defiler, Rune-Scarred Demon.
Secondary targets (4/99=4%) Balefire Dragon (6 didn't kill all the creatures?), Ob Nixilis, Unshackled (Turn 6 still tutoring and have 2 creatures or care about life?), Restoration Angel (2 targets?), Reveillark (4 power 2 or less creatures in graveyard?). Lastly poor targets Avacyn, the Purifier (6 damage to my stuff too!), Stoneforge Mystic (Only have 2 equipment), Thundermaw Hellkite (Is the 1 extra damage doing anything?)
Rune-Scarred Demon or an early Rakdos the Defiler are the only really really valuable targets, and a Angel of Despair. Rune-Scarred Demon is hopefully completing your primary win-con, and Rakdos the Defiler if I have the extra mana something's gone very wrong already (This is a multi-4 player build not a 1v1).
I don't have any real-recurring blink built in, If I built this around flicker, I would use it, like that Eldrazi Displacer/Kaalia of the Vast decks, but I'm not built as such. Strionic Resonator + Brago, King Eternal + Sol Ring is a primary win-con in my Brago, the Banisher deck, so it is powerful, no doubt.
That's just some of my thoughts I had through the testing. When a card sits dormant on the battlefield for me too often, or it puts me in an over-committed board position that gets controlled, that's when I know it's not quite right.
In a Dragon Mage, Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul it would be a key card. The reason I don't play those is because I found that 1) I was holding control spells and having to discard them, 2) There are better decks at recurring graveyards that mine, and I was basically causing myself pain, 3) I was restocking everyone's hands so that they can draw a control card for Kaalia of the Vast and I was never keeping her on the battlefield only. If I'm running that I feel I'm playing a fun Kaalia of the Vast, I wan't a competitive Kaalia of the Vast.
Hope some of the insights explain sort-of what I'm thinking. But I have lot's of strange analysis I've done like why I don't run Aurelia, the Warleader, and why Reveillark is going to come out for something. And why Steel Hellkite is out. I also run weird cards like Steelshaper's Gift can't understand why other's dont want a second Lightning Greaves that costs , I do.
1 month ago
Looks good! Id try to cut some cards. Generally speaking, you want to play with the minimum number of cards, 60. This gives you the best chance of drawing your best card or the card that you need in a given situation.
I'd also look into running a few other big creatures to bring back with your reanimation spells. Sheoldred is a nice one, but i think you might want a couple more. Things like Lord of the Void and Kokusho, the Evening Star are still castable if you do happen to draw them but most black big splashy creatures will also do the trick here
(I've never had this problem before but it's only letting me link cards instead of directly suggesting them. Sorry about that.)
2 months ago
Personally I think Lord of the Void is your best shot, as milling them and stealing their creatures speed up your win
2 months ago
So, seeing My Mono Black! and the premise about my opponent, i don't know which finisher or "big bad" should i put in? - Gray Merchant of Asphodel - Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon - Wurmcoil Engine - Dread - Grave Titan - Steel Hellkite - Kokusho, the Evening Star - Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis - Reaper from the Abyss - Necropolis Regent - Visara the Dreadful - Geth, Lord of the Vault - Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet - Lord of the Void - Griselbrand
2 months ago
So, seeing My Mono Black! and the premise about my opponent, i don't know which finisher or "big bad" should i put in? - Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - Gray Merchant of Asphodel - Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon - Wurmcoil Engine - Dread - Grave Titan - Kokusho, the Evening Star - Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis - Reaper from the Abyss - Necropolis Regent - Visara the Dreadful - Geth, Lord of the Vault - Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet - Lord of the Void - Griselbrand
2 months ago
How to play:
On the bench, ready to sub in!:
Phage the Untouchable: I feel like I should explain this one first. I know that it looks like you should be grabbing Phage every time, but I encourage you to think again. First off, by the time any of you who are inspired to make this deck actually do so, unstable will no longer be legal in commander (unless you're ultra-quick and super-cool). Therefore, the only way you'd be able to play this within your playgroup is by Rule 13, which essentially states that you can use banned cards in a casual setting only if all members of your playgroup agree to it. And if you slam down Phage every time, they're gonna start to not like you. Sorry if this section went on too long, but it had to be said.
Ashling, the Extinguisher: This is mostly for if your opponents have a troublesome indestructible creature. Or also if you think that the art looks great.
Avatar of Slaughter: This one is for if you need straight damage, as it deals the most of any creature at 16. Maybe you're low on life and it has Loxodon Warhammer. Maybe you want to deal a ton of damage without killing them. I'm not judging.
Blightsteel Colossus: This one follows the same rules as Phage the Untouchable, only this one also protects against milling. Using this product may put at risk of winning, overzealous gloating and being banned. Administer at own risk.
Dragon Mage: Maybe you're secretly a group hug player. Maybe you're just low on cards in hand. Either way, this is a great all-around option.
Greater Harvester: It's like eldrazi, only you don't have to actually attack with it to trigger annihilator, meaning you also get some damage through.
Hellcarver Demon: An opponent is comboing out and you need to make one last defiant stand without actually winning. That's when you break out this boy.
Lightning Reaver: Why on earth did you sub in this! It's just in here because I like the art!
Lord of the Void: This is my go to benchwarmer. It makes you highly likely to win the game without actually guaranteeing it. My kind of card.
Necropolis Regent: This one actually works because +1/+1 counters stay between switches.
Rakdos the Defiler: Be sure to sub him in after declare attackers and blockers so that his attacking trigger won't activate, but his damage trigger will.
Raving Dead: If you want to do something but you don't want the game to end yet, this is a good choice.
Enemy forces and how to ignore them!
Now, subbing out is most effective if whatever you're replacing can get past the declare blockers step. Unfortunately, this is rakdos colors, so we don't have much in that respect. What little that's available is below.
Whispersilk Cloak: Definitely the best option we have. With evasion in both aspects, and the fact that equipment stays equipped makes this a favorable option.
Trailblazer's Boots: In commander, you can scribble out the existing text and say, unblockable. It saves time.
Prowler's Helm: If any of you frequenly go toe-to-toe with a wall tribal deck, please let me know, that sounds awesome. And if you want to make them happy, play this. They will be so proud of their soulless, empty defenders. They need the pick-me-up.
Panic Spellbomb: Yeah, it's not the greatest. Moving on.
Key to the City: Card filtering and unblockable? Please tell me the downside.
Hot Soup: Do not, I repeat, Not play this against a ping deck. It'll be like christmas came early for them.
Glaring Spotlight: I would tell you how great and good this option is, only I can't see the text from all this brightness.
Last random notes:
Planar Portal: This is the one case where it's superior to Planar Bridge. You see, Mary switches things in your hand, not on the battlefield, so with the bridge, they get affected by summoning sickness.