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Obzedat, Ghost Council
Legendary Creature — Spirit Advisor
When Obzedat, Ghost Council enters the battlefield, target opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
At the beginning of your end step, you may exile Obzedat, Ghost Council. If you do, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of your next upkeep. It gains haste.
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Obzedat, Ghost Council Discussion
5 days ago
I am Corbeau and just started to put my decks on here. I play casually with a nice playgroup. We don't play very competetive and love combo decks. I am usually the person with nearly no removal because I always think that if it doesn't help my strategy it isn't a card for my deck and I want the others to have fun, too. Also I feel restricted in my creativity when I think about the meta or so. So quite often I am in a race to get my deck going and keep my stuff because others don't hesitate do remove everything on my side. I love weird and janky deck strategies. The decks I have at the moment are the ones I play and the one that survived all the building of decks. Very often it is more brewing than playing because we don't get together that often and the EDH community in my city is very competetive. I prefer an environment in which people have fun and don't flame each other all the time.
My Decks at the Moment:
EDH: Alesha, Who Smiles at Death (Aristrocrats) Prime Speaker Zegana (Draw Combo) Prime Speaker Vannifar (Podless Pod) Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons (-1/-1 Counters) Atraxa, Praetors' Voice (Any Counters] Kess, Dissident Mage (Spellslinger) Ghave, Guru of Spores (+1/+1 Counters) Kambal, Consul of Allocation (Lifedrain Prison) Omnath, Locus of Rage (Landfall/Elemental) Daxos the Returned (Enchantress)
Former Decks (I hope I remember all):
EDH: + Atraxa, Praetors' Voice (All cards with counters) Sun Quan, Lord of Wu (Milling) + The Scarab God (Milling) + Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive (Only power 1 or less/Tokens) Talrand, Sky Summoner (Spellslinger) Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet (gravepact) Kozilek, the Great Distortion (Eldrazi) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (Milling) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant (Reanimator) Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle (Historic/Reanimator) Nin, the Pain Artist (Artifacts) Nin, the Pain Artist (Milling) Odric, Lunarch Marshal (White Weenie) + Masako the Humorless (Historic/ Throne of the God-Pharaoh ) Padeem, Consul of Innovation (Artifacts) + Kiku, Night's Flower ( Kiku's Shadow / Ragged Veins ) Grenzo, Havoc Raiser (Spellsnatching) Sydri, Galvanic Genius (Beautiful Art/Control) Tatyova, Benthic Druid (Beautiful Art/Copy/Draw/Token) Karlov of the Ghost Council (Lifedrain) Obzedat, Ghost Council (Lifedrain) + Obzedat, Ghost Council (Flicker/Token) Akiri, Line-Slinger / Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist (Artifacts/Non-Voltron)
Sadly many of my decks didn't work because of the meta and power level in my playgroup but some were so much fun to play. Favorites marked with + at the front.
I will try to upload the decklists of my current decks. If you have questions about any of the former decks or anything just ask.
Love and happyness Corbeau
1 month ago
I made a chopping block, figuring I can live without these cards and replace them with probably lands but other cards for sure. I threw most of this together a little quickly after all:
Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Mother of Runes , Dread Shade , Well of Lost Dreams , Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant , Wall of Glare , Iona, Shield of Emeria , Obzedat, Ghost Council , Sentry of the Underworld , Lord of the Void , True Conviction , Ashes of the Abhorrent , Swords to Plowshares
I also just straight swapped my Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds for swamps. I end up using them to search for one 90% of the time anyways, and more swamps lets my Extraplanar Lens give me more.
1 month ago
With the amount of creatures that you play, it may be prudent for you to invest in a Living Death . I think that Krav and Regna may also be very fitting for this deck. Cruel Entertainment is definitely a flavour win - I think that many spirits are nothing but a cruel entertainment for the Orzhov loansharks. Since Tomik was her closest advisor, you might want to put him in as well. I am missing an Obzedat, Ghost Council in this deck, as well as a Karlov of the Ghost Council . Karlov was Teysa's grandfather so I think he is very fitting. Another consideration is the new Kaya, or Kaya, Ghost Assassin .
Hope this helps! If you have some time, please check out my Feather or Nightmares deck.
2 months ago
By using your own spells to kill off a Gray Merchant of Asphodel just to reanimate him, you'll be giving up a ton of card advantage and losing tempo. If you're really interested in abusing the Merchant's ability by getting it to trigger multiple times, I'd consider running blue for bounce effects like Unsummon , or better yet, white for flicker like Cloudshift . You could also set up a Panharmonicon to double the trigger automatically. However, there really isn't any need to do so. The better option is to just invest in the mono-black devotion plan enough that Gray Merchant will kill in one hit. I recommend looking up black devotion lists to get an idea of cards to add. I've had a lot of fun with a devotion zoo deck using 1 drops like Gravecrawler , Gutterbones , and Bloodsoaked Champion with Midnight Oil and Phyrexian Arena to refill. In general, you just want to include the most black mana symbols for the lowest cost (while also bearing card power level in mind). Vampire Nighthawk and Despoiler of Souls are two cards you already have that fit the bill. Some other favorites are Gatekeeper of Malakir , Phyrexian Obliterator , Gifted Aetherborn , Dread Shade , and Geralf's Messenger . These decks can be a little pricey, especially if you include a set of Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx . If you're looking for a more gradual form of life drain, Orzhov lists are a popular way to do so. They run cards more in the vein of Obzedat, Ghost Council , Wall of Limbs , and Kambal, Consul of Allocation . They might also take advantage of lifegain with Ajani's Pridemate , Felidar Sovereign , or the Sanguine Bond / Exquisite Blood combo. One of the reasons these decks are so popular is that they can easily be built on a budget. As a final note, I'd like to point out that you're currently lacking the mana needed for the curve you have. I'd want at least 20 lands here and maybe as many as 25 to avoid constant mana screw. Good luck with your build!
2 months ago
Not Black, because that seems too easy.
Emrakul, the Moon
Legendary Artifact Creature - Eldrazi
Flying, Trample, Indestructible
When Emrakul, the Moon, enters the battlefield, if you cast Emrakul from your hand, you gain control of each opponent until your next turn.
I love low-cost commanders Selvala, Explorer Returned , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade , Aminatou, the Fateshifter , and my expensive ones are Obzedat, Ghost Council , Elenda, the Dusk Rose Samut, Voice of Dissent , and Shalai, Voice of Plenty . I want to cast my commander easily and often. Emrakul also would just get Path to Exile , Chaos Warp , Swords to Plowshares , Anguished Unmaking , etc. upon the etb trigger. This is wayyy too much of a bogeyman for my taste. my Playgroup already knows to kill commanders on sight, but this is the most obvious ever.
Also, I love White, and colorless seems like a nightmare.
4 months ago
After all 5 Bonds in WAR have been spoiled, I've let myself imagining how the Future of Ravnica as a Plane should work. Now we have true Alarian Symbols (Why didn't we have a sequel to the Shards of Alara Block... Or Watermarks for each Shard?), there is one thing I'm finally upset at WotC for this:
All Bonds are that of Allied 3-Colors.
This could've been fixed very easily w/o a problem. In 2 other ways also! We could have the Wedge-Style Colors straight out of Pre-Dragons of Tarkir sets of the Tarkir Block. Hell, we could've even had an Homage to the Nephilim (I don't fragging care about those cards; they are just as Rip-Easy like Nicol Bolas during the Legends Set; oh, & you all need to give Brawl more of a chance than ever; Oathbreaker's only flaw is actually the biggest that they had; Choose a Walker, BUT, you are also forced to use their key card representing them; which not all Walkers have. Just Play Brawl at least; it's more balanced, behaves the same as Standard, & CMDR Damage isn't a true problem anymore.
But I digress yet again. When the Half Angel/Half Demon Abominations brought us 4 colors, what I'd actually want more from WotC is the idea of setting all enemyship aside for good. Just imagine these enemy guilds actually appreciating, & learning from their former foes:
& = Life is also a kind of Progress, like all of everything. The Selesnya Conclave may be , but their agendas are actually comparable to Licht Kreis of Under Night IN-BIRTH fame, having an agenda though in control, is a perfect example of Peace-Loving Religious Extremists that would definitely at least earn the alliance of either The Golgari Swarm, &/or even The Orzhov Syndicate . Yep, This Religious Conclave is PRIME Abzan Material. Both the Izzet League, & the Selesnya Conclave are true villain groups at heart, & progress is literally all Dimensional layers; not just our 4D (Yep! I'm not kidding you! If we're in 3D, our world would be motionless at the status we're at. Dimension 4? Time; as in a Passage of Standard Time. It best resembles Cones on the vertical dimension. But what is Dimension 5? XP) status we're in. Progress is Mathematics. Progress is Life. Progress is even Infinity Transcendence. "All these people in my life... I don't want to lose anymore! & I won't give up this universe of hours! (God Gundam turns Gold, & nullifies DG Urube's attack.) (DG Urube: Uhh...?) Masters Taught me that! Our Great Homeland! OUR PRECIOUS PLANET EARTH! IS THE HIGHEST FORM OF LIFE!"
See? That is not hard at all to think about! Here's another if you wish to have a good idea; oh, & if this is too much, don't fret! I'd still be happy anyway if WotC even did Wedge Alliances.
& = Somebody tell that idiot Teysa Karlov The Gruul Clans are much better than they were after "That Cyclopean Beast" died after some time. Just because The Gruul Clans are Savages, doesn't mean they aren't without some kind of mind; Shamans. While actual Barbaric members just want to strike at anything they see, the Shamans are pretty much the intelligence Gruul has. Suffice to say, The Orzhov Syndicate demands Money as a Mafia-Like Gang, & if you have none, prepare to have a Blood Tithe oversizing More than 100% of all your blood you will ever have your entire life. Blatant Hypocrisy. While the Gruul Clans are savage indeed, the Orzhov Syndicate demands your loyalty to them, or you'd have to pay the rest of aforementioned Tithe as a Spirit; Departed Souls. So, how can MTG's Worst Character ever (Hint, Everyone loves her but me. & is .) Support the Gruul Clans' cause? Not even The Titans from AEONS ago would've thought of this; those who the Gruul Clans kill alone, are already; supposedly, becoming Departed Souls as well. This could apply to all guilds actually; even when the Ghost Council of Orzhova , & Obzedat, Ghost Council were all killed by Kaya, Bane of the Dead . Shamans are meant to come in contact with the realm of the dead; Spirits both good & evil. But what to do with the more barbaric of the Gruul Clans? They've wanted to kill the Plane of Existence they're feet have been on in the first place! Well, oddly, This Mafia had more Action Extorting others as they drain their blood for profit, & their Growth only made them the supreme Monetary Group in the Multiverse. The Orzhov Syndicate & The Gruul Clans are not so different than you'd think. "Let me clarify the economics for you Gina. Sensational patients bring recognition. Recognition brings money. And money keeps Wellhaven's doors open. You should be thanking me." Better than the MCU version by a MILE! So... Maybe Teysa should thank Domri Rade after AEONS of Genocide? I, mean, The Gruul Clans are far better than the Guildless anyway.
& = Taking Order & Chaos in moderation, 50/50 style. The Boros Legion could act like an actual Military; planning out all possible outcomes; you know; actually Military planning? & The House of Dimir can hide evidence until actual confirmation of such design is in order. In fact, what if I told you Chaos > Order anyway? Both The House of Dimir, & The Boros Legion; which have their own ways of chaos; The House of Dimir can not only do this in secret, but makes matters worse for others. The Boros Legion is just an army of Mindless Soldiers, Angels, even stuff you'd wish weren't a part of this. Enforcing w/ raw emotion, these both describe Chaos in their own unique way; take it from a famous Psychologist I'm making anonymous about this: "You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star" This quote actually states that Chaos; an Idea of fiction entirely seen as evil, but is actually seen by so few as a good thing more than Cosmos, Order, the like. If that philosophy is wrong, despite from a credible source, I dunno what to think...
& = The Circle of Life benefits from even Zygotes or even the undead. If The Golgari Swarm, & the Azorius Senate is to coexist with one another, A mere reference to The Lion King; which demonstrates life & death are entirely a way of life; an Unthinkable Natural Law (A Fan-Based Translation of a crappy Touhou Project Game, for reference.) neither Justice, nor anyone; Active, Inactive, Dead, even Transcending Death, can stop. It is a part of all of us, & it would take a damn good stasis to stop something us humans have to accept when we witness our first death in our lives. So how does the Swarm, & Senate coexist with one another? Just let time pass, & maybe more than just Ravnica as a whole can learn from what should've been a Swahiili Folk Tale, but satirizes a crappy tale by an even crapier playright. But it still stood the test of time anyway, so, maybe a view? (Just watch the Reboot of The Lion King.)
& = Momir Vig, Simic Visionary is a bigger villain than Rakdos, the Showstopper altogether. After the former's death (?), The Simic Combine eventually brought up Prime Speaker Vannifar , who alloed the Simic Combine more freedom for creature creation; given the guidelines of said Guild. This resulted in more chaos than Momir Vig could only dream of doing; & Their Selfishness from the bias from other Guilds, actually prove both the Simic Combine, & The Cult of Rakdos, aren't so different as they would believe to be. "All souls are equal and alike, and have the similar nature and qualities."
Yeah, I might have crossed many lines, but I still think there should also be Bonds representing Wedge Colors, &, as far as this post goes, Bonds that set all enemyships aside for good; a bit of genius borrowed from the Nephilim Scum that I don't even know if they were driven to extinction already. I apologize for making this kind of topic; It was paved w/ good intentions, but I really would like my 4 Color Stuff for real now. These have been the biggest enemies between Guilds since the beginning of all this. I really just made this so such enemyships can have a way to coexist between them, & likely some others. Oh, one last thing, If you find anything wrong about my opinions about this (& trust me, you actually might.); just tell me your thoughts how such enemyships would be set aside, all while actually having a possible alliance. This took me all day just to make; I hope you're glad. This wasn't a Bad Netflix Original Movie I made in the first place. Or a ruination of SPIRIT: Stallion of the Cimarron in the form of a female-targeted Pony based series that makes MY LITTLE PONY: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC look like Taysir of Rabiah, Nicol Bolas, & even Urza's decapitated head (All Awesome). & it takes SO MUCH for me to say MLP is better than just "Something without Representation" DX
Alright. Enough of this. I'd like some thought for this, please. I've other stuff to do though... Apologies again, & one more apology for the huge wall of text... Thank you for your time. ^_^
4 months ago
Have you considered Arvad the Cursed ? I might even play him as your commander, since he gives an anthem effect (+2/+2) and drop Athreos in the 99. Honestly Atreos shines when he protects low CMC creatures. I don't think you will find a lot of people not paying the 3 life when 1 of your, often very powerfull, creatures dies. Next to that you play black and have a range of (under $9) tutors to fetch him.
You could throw in a little token/lifegain theme as support (very Orzhov) and play your deck as the guild extorting people and if they don't pay up exile their creatures. (Then Atreos might be super on theme again).
Legendaries I would run in a token/lifegain theme are: Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim Teysa, Orzhov Scion Karlov of the Ghost Council Kambal, Consul of Allocation Obzedat, Ghost Council Teysa Karlov Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts Regna, the Redeemer / Krav, the Unredeemed Ghost Council of Orzhova Vona, Butcher of Magan Aryel, Knight of Windgrace Elenda, the Dusk Rose Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder Yomiji, Who Bars the Way Whisper, Blood Liturgist Darien, King of Kjeldor Heliod, God of the Sun Brimaz, King of Oreskos Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle Oketra the True Elspeth, Sun's Champion Sorin, Lord of Innistrad Kaya, Orzhov Usurper Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
Support these guys with the following cards: Soul's Attendant Soul Warden Dictate of Erebos Grave Pact Smothering Tithe Ethereal Absolution Dawn of Hope Skullclamp Suture Priest Blood Artist Zulaport Cutthroat Crested Sunmare Regal Bloodlord Pious Evangel Flip Authority of the Consuls Blind Obedience Anointed Procession Hidden Stockpile Vindictive Vampire Twilight Drover Mentor of the Meek Priest of Forgotten Gods Pitiless Plunderer High Market Shizo, Death's Storehouse Divine Visitation Intangible Virtue Attrition
A few sac outlets like Ashnod's Altar
Of course all of this above is just a suggestion. I think in this way you can easily you can keep the Legendary theme alive in your deck, but point in a bit more towards the Orzhov Syndicate. (wich in my opinion is an awesome guild!!) I think I kept a bit on a eye on your budget of $9 a card. If I missed a few my apologies.
5 months ago
Hey Ripwater! Thanks for the kind words. I've been playing Karlov since he was released back in Commander 2015. I've spend the last four years tweaking this deck and editing it, and as you can see from my edit history I still make edits when need be. Let me kind of explain my thought process behind why this deck is the way it is. I've been meaning to put this in yhe description of the deck but I just haven't yet. Then let me give you my thoughts on the cards you suggested to me. Here it goes:
Ever since I got big into magic back in RTR I've loved Orzhov and Life Gain strategies. Up until 2015 I spent a majority of my time playing MTG and hearing about how life gain is a bad strategy. Then Karlov was spoiled and my Obzedat, Ghost Council deck was forever changed! I of course looked at Karlov and thought Voltron. Honestly, who doesn't? Here's one of my problems though, I hate Voltron. I just do. My other problem was that V oltron ISN'T life gain. Yes you're adding life gain to the deck to make Karlov beefy, but you aren't gaining life for the purpose of winning. Celestial Convergence , Felidar Sovereign , and Test of Endurance are all ways I win with life gain. Yes this deck runs Aetherflux Reservoir , and I'd be lying if I said I didn't win with Karlov. Plus I'd be stupid not to try and win with him. That's why I run Rogue's Passage , and Elspeth, Knight-Errant . One makes him unblockable and the other makes him a huge flying boy. I'd also be lying if I said that the orginal version of this deck was good. I first made this deck when I fourteen years old. I didn't know much about previous magic cards. I didn't research cards all that much. The first draft of this deck was AWFUL. It wasn't until about a year after I built the first draft and play tested it and made a ton of changes that this deck kicked ass. I started sitting down at tables in gamestores and have people laugh or scoff of me when I told them it was a life gain deck. Then I'd leave them stunned after I won. In conclusion, Voltron isn't my style and wasn't what I wanted to create when I started building this deck. I wanted to make a Business Casual life gain deck what could win consistently and effectively, and I think that's what I've done. Even if Karlov isn't on the field. I can win. If he is on the field and I can't attack with him I can exile creatures. Karlov is only a resource in this deck. Not the centerpiece.
As for Your suggestions. These cards aren't bad suggestions and may find a way into the deck: Contemplation , Tablet of the Guilds , Archangel of Thune , and Ajani, Caller of the Pride . My only problem is that I have a hard time cutting things from this deck haha. It took me three days to finally decide my last batch of cuts! Let me explain why I dislike the other suggestions.
Let me start with Elspeth, Sun's Champion . Elspeth is my favorite planeswalker, and this card specifically is my favorite planeswalker card ever printed. The original version of this deck actually ran Sun's Champion; however, I found that Elspeth, Knight-Errant 's two plus ones were so much more useful. Making one dude isn't nearly as good as making three, but it can still trigger Soul Warden , Soul's Attendant , Suture Priest , and Auriok Champion . Her other plus one works amazing with Karlov, but also works well with creatures like Serra Ascendant and Divinity of Pride . Nine times out of ten you won't get a Planeswalker's ultimate off, so honestly all the ultimate abilites of the planeswalkers I use are irrelavent. Another thing is that Sun's Champion minus ability had the potential to kill large bombs like Karlov and Serra Ascendant .
I feel like Sunscorch Regent costs to much for an ability that doesn't do much for the deck. There are better turn five plays. This card just isn't that good. I probably would've played this when I was on a budget four years ago.
The fact that Flickering Ward flickers back to your hand is cool, but mono colored EDH decks aren't the most common thing and the fact that this can't be casted at instant speed makes it not worth my time. Yes multicolored cards still cant target whatever creature has this enchantment attached to it, but there are plently of ways to get around this card. There are also other, better one drops I'd rather play in this deck
Lastly we have Whispersilk Cloak this card is decent, but as I said, Karlov isn't the main focus of this deck. I ran this card for a brief period about two years ago, but ultimately cut it for Mana Vault . Whispersilk just wasn't doing what I needed it to do, and the only creature I found it useful on was Karlov.
Once again I thank you for your suggestions, and if I do end up adding the cards I liked from your suggestions making cuts will be very hard! Also thank you for the engaging comment, and for the upvote. My opinion on your deck is this: I personally think it could use more tuning, but it's a grrat start. Here's the other thing I have to say, it's not my deck. It's yours. You built it. If you like it then good. What I think is irrelevant. There's no right or wrong way to build your deck. Voltorn is your deck's main style, and mine is using Life Gain to win. We all have our own ways to play, so as long as you enjoy your deck that's what matters!
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