Stranglehold

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Format Legality
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal

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Set Rarity
MTG: Commander Rare

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Stranglehold

Enchantment

Your opponents can't search libraries.

If an opponent would begin an extra turn, that player skips that turn instead.

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Stranglehold Discussion

Daedalus19876 on Devoid but deadly(Newmrakul)

1 day ago

To recast Emrakul, you'll need some way to send her back to the command zone. Sac outlets are good for this, or Temur Sabretooth or something.

Stranglehold and Ugin's Nexus can do basically the same thing as your combo when paired with Emmy :)

Spirits on Kaalia of the Vast

3 days ago

I would consider Kederekt Parasite, his damage might be inconsequential once the angels/dragons/demons start attacking.

Blade of Selves for sure, only equips one creature, and the 4 is pretty high cmc for equip, plus it doesn't allow Kaalia of the Vast to multi-tigger, so not necessary. Can't equip it either during the attack, so only really myriads a creature that's survived a round or 2, which means it isn't a big enough threat probably that it matters to anyone anyway.

Victory's Herald maybe, he's good, CMC 6 for a 4/4 isn't that great, but his Lifelink is nice, it doesn't trigger off of a Kaalia of the Vast drop in though, so just for that reason could consider cutting him, but then again the next turn lifelink is appetizing. Gisela, the Broken Blade instead? or Baneslayer Angel

If you need enchantment like Stranglehold or Dragon Tempest or ... you have 9, you can run Enlightened Tutor and/or Idyllic Tutor

Not sure what you mean about Master of Cruelties? He is my #1 creature, I always Vampiric Tutor or Demonic Tutor. Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties (unblocked) = Eliminate Opponent. Not sure if you confused on this guy, but errata ruling is pretty clear.

4/15/2013 An ability that triggers when something attacks and isnt blocked triggers in the declare blockers step after blockers are declared if (1) that creature is attacking and (2) no creatures are declared to block it. It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker in the declare attackers step.

precociousapprentice on The blood and tears that flow for you, my Queen

4 days ago

I agree. Add in No Mercy.

If you are playing Maralen of the Mornsong, along with the necessary Stranglehold to keep it one sided, you have no issue with tutors and combo. You should go all the way with this and play Vampiric Tutor, Enlightened Tutor, and Idyllic Tutor. Maybe add in some Transmute cards for extra tutoring, since these are often budget friendly tutor effects. Brainspoil gets you Starfield of Nyx, Sphere of Safety, Norn's Annex, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs (why aren't you running this?), and Master of Cruelties. Dimir House Guard gets you a ton of stuff, most importantly including Stranglehold, but could also get Opalescence. Dimir Machinations gets you any number of cards, most importantly including Maralen of the Mornsong, Price of Glory, and Solitary Confinement. Both Shred Memory and Netherborn Phalanx could potentially tutor up some good stuff. Add in some Group Slug enchantments for continuous pings, or some combo kill, and you have a lockout recipe. Any of the Gods in would also make nice wincons that are tutorable with any of the above tutors. If you are going strong on enchantments, both Opalescence and Starfield of Nyx turn out to be good wincons all by themselves. If you have that many enchantments, Replenish provides protection against an enchantment board wipe.

I like all the Freeze elements, it makes this into a scary Stax style taxation deck. If you are going that direction, why not add in the three best Stax pieces, Parallax Wave, Smokestack, and Tangle Wire? Lethal Vapors, Parallax Wave, and Starfield of Nyx would create a recurring board wipe for creatures, and even as a one shot, both Tangle Wire and Parallax Wave would fit in here nicely.

I also suggest thinking about lowering your curve. The cards in your list that are the highest CMC are actually not adding much to your major strategy. Trim them to make room for more efficient pieces, more tutors, and more cards that exploit the Stax/Tax theme. Also, you should think about running more ramp in the form of mana rocks. My experience is that both Stax and Pillow Fort want a curve with an average CMC somewhere around 2.5, and these archetypes also want a lot of mana rocks to power out early defensive plays. You only run two ramp cards, and your average CMC is 3.65, with a curve that tops out at 9! You will probably be waiting until turn 15 or so to get out Avacyn, Angel of Hope or Blazing Archon. Waiting that long for your defense means that it is unlikely to be doing anything for you.

Anyway, this is a very interesting deck, and a very different take on Queen Marchesa than most. I will be watching you develop it with great interest.

dlamars on Take me to Church

6 days ago

Daedalus19876

Hey thanks for the constructive criticism, this list is the product of a week of theory crafting. Everything is a bit jumbled and the curve isn't great. I didn't have time to get a description in yet either, sorry about that. What I want for control here is not a hard lock but something more akin to hate bears and winning through attrition. This deck isn't going to win in the first 6 turns, let's just put that out there. I'm looking at turn 7 or 8 probably, which means I need to disrupt turns 1-6 for other players. That said, I think I'll be removing Iroas, God of Victory for Spirit of the Labyrinth and possibly Argentum Armor for Aura of Silence.

You are probably right about Leonin Shikari but it's new to me so I'm not sure how effective it is. I assumed passing around Swiftfoot Boots, Skullclamp and the swords at instant speed would be worth a slot? If it doesn't work out I may go with Ethersworn Canonist.

I think I have to pass on MLD, my LGS is full of competent players but they aren't degenerates heh. Same reason Blood Moon was passed up here, I can win playing mostly fair but I will still try to find a spot for Static Orb since it's just great with War's Toll and Urabrask the Hidden.

You know of any really good hate cards in red similar to Stranglehold but doesn't so much target the mana base?

dlamars on Judgment Day: Avacyn the Purifier EDH | *PRIMER*

1 week ago

Daedalus19876 well Price of Glory is cool, but I have Abeyance and Orim's Chant in the list as part of my Sunforger package. I just dig War's Toll since it's effects are so one sided.

If you would like to I've made a first draft you can check out:A church angle, have seen. I ended up with a lot less enchantments than I expected, but Stranglehold, War's Toll, Crackdown etc made the cut. Let me know what you think.

Liquidbeaver on Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

2 weeks ago

Made some strength and curve changes.

Altar of Dementia out for Phyrexian Altar: Even though Dementia is stupidly strong with Coat of Arms out, when it isn't this card is kind of dead. Sideboarding it for now.

Impact Tremors out for Purphoros, God of the Forge: I took this out before because of the higher cost, but now that my curve and ramp package are much better, it is a straight upgrade for me.

Snow-Covered Mountain out for Boseiju, Who Shelters All: Making sure my Scrap Mastery or Blasphemous Act go off is really important if I am keeping priority and saccing in response. Without it I could cast it, sac in response, and then get counterspelled and have almost no boardstate left over.

Damping Engine out for Tangle Wire: Just a stronger version of the same effect.

Snow-Covered Mountain out for Mox Diamond: This is normally not a strictly better trade off, but with so many fetches and extra land mechanics, I can run off of fewer basics.

Goblin King out for Gratuitous Violence: I've been wanting to fit this card in for a really long time. Even though Goblin King combos very well with Blood Moon, since I don't have any real pump spells for my Goblins besides Coat of Arms, I actually end up doing less damage overall. I could use Goblin King as a finisher, but Gratuitous Violence gives me a bigger boost, regardless of when it comes out. Sideboarding Goblin King for now, in case I do want to add him in just as a finisher later.

Snow-Covered Mountain out for Stranglehold: This puts me down two lands total from where I was, but it gives me a ton more control over the battlefield. I didn't realize it's potency before, until I realized it included cracking fetches as well. This actually makes me consider running From the Ashes instead of Ruination in my future MLD additions.

I will have to playtest a lot more to see if I took out too many basic lands, or added too many non-basics, but with all the ramp and mana rocks I should be okay.

Still looking for ways to get sideboard cards into the deck, but as it stands the deck is more consistent and stronger than ever.

Tacticsninja16782 on It's my turn, all the turns!

2 weeks ago

A little extra removal, but it could probably go. That said, it's nice to have an extra card to get rid of any opposing Strangleholds

Liquidbeaver on Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

2 weeks ago

Spam away, I love working on this deck, and not many people have more than a single card suggestion at a time, so go right ahead!

Stranglehold is in a list of Stax and Stax-ish cards I have. There isn't a particular reason why I'm not running it other than I wasn't sure of the impact. Admittedly though, I haven't spent much time working it through, though. I am wanting to go heavier with the Stax effects, so it definitely fits the bill, I just have no experience with it.

Good call on Past in Flames. I would get a lot more mileage out of Gratuitous Violence in every circumstance I can think of.

I chose Impact Tremors over Purphoros, God of the Forge a long time ago, before I had lowered the CMC significantly, or had the mana base to back it up. Now that I have the deck working much more smoothly, there's no reason not to switch it out. Good idea.

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