Stranglehold

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dingusdingo on Solitaire

1 week ago

Narset isn't considered tier 1 due to color identity (no G or B really hurts), mana cost, and lack of consistency. Slotting enough topdeck tutors to make it "go" reliably eats away slots that should be filled with ramp, removal, or counterspells. The high density of extra turns required to consistently hit one in the top 4 means you'll wind up with them sitting in hand as expensive dead draws unless you're already comboing out with free turns for a win.

Sarkhan also has a point about your damage output. The only way you're getting kills is empty deck + Nexus or Beacon. With both of them countered or exiled or in hand, your combo stops. Also consider that 19x4=76, so unless you've magically drawn or milled 10-16 cards, you'll run out of turns and swings before hitting empty library. You could always hit Nexus or Beacon the 4 extra times required to achieve empty library state, but you're leaving your fate to chance. Also consider, you could just entirely whiff on your first 4 drawn and have to pass the turn, or really at any point in the combo chain. You should also consider that without any combat buffs or even first strike, any 2 power critter with first strike OR any 2 power critter with 4 or more toughness makes you really sad.

I think you're missing out by not running a suite of wheels and red mana rituals to help power out early Narset. Wheel of Fortune Timetwister Windfall should be included for sure, if for no reason but to neutralize runaway card advantage of opponents on turn 1. Great for refilling hand after dumping rocks and rituals too. I would also include Rite of Flame as it lets you hit many 2 cmc rocks on turn 1. Pyretic Ritual and Desperate Ritual are also options but rather slot heavy for what they give you. Seething Song is nice ramp but gives an overproduction of red that makes it hard to turn it into Narset.

Your lack of counterspells means its really easy to shut off your combo turn. Swing and reveal a free turn, it gets countered, and you're left twiddling your thumbs hoping someone doesn't win before your next turn. Similarly, you can't protect Narset from pyroclasm effects or wrath of god effects. Null Rod or Stony Silence or the new Collector Ouphe coming out before you've played Narset means you are going to lose before you can draw enough lands to get to 6. You run two cards that can remove either of those cards, and 3 that can counter it. Similarly, Kataki, War's Wage and Manglehorn also cause big problems. And please don't try to tell me you just go too fast to be stopped by them. Stax pieces also cause immense problems for this deck, just like your other deck, because your removal is so low. Turn 1 Trinisphere makes this deck cry big sad tears. Stranglehold means you have to flip into your only 2 answers or also cry big sad tears, you can't tutor to them and you run almost no draw. The list goes on.

I asked this on your other deck too, but what decks are you playing against? You keep saying you play against competitive decks in a competitive league, but there's just no way you're facing optimized decklists and players who make correct choices based on board/hand texture if this and your other list are big winners at the table. Are you pubstomping 15 year olds in your small town of 1,000 people? That's really what this list looks like. The fact you continually archive comments that are literally only days old on this list and your other because they contain criticisms of your list speak a lot about what it is too, and it makes it hard to find actual discussion on your deck because you keep stifling it. This is just a pubstomp list to snag those +1's and views from casuals, nothing more, you even have a +1 button in your description ffs.

For real though, stop tagging your pubstomp lists as competitive and talking mad game about the cEDH community. Your deckbuilding philosophy is "let the rest of the pod stop others from winning" and it really shows man. Your opinion about turn 4 means nothing because the meta revolves around the turn 3 board state. You have a real head-in-the-sand reaction to critiques of your deck, and calling us "sheeple" for realizing only certain commanders are actually viable at the premiere competitive level is rather childish. Yes, its cool to make lists for commanders to try to make them relevant, but there is actually a power level difference that gives a strong edge to certain commanders and decks. Spend some time and learn the meta before shitposting and making me write paragraphs. Again.

And yeah, I'd love to see some step by step instructions. I'm not confident this deck gets to empty library state from one swing, or even 2 or 3 swings. Also stop assuming that hitting a piece of MLD is the same as an extra turn, using MLD then passing leaves you vulnerable to the dorks and artifacts that are EXTREMELY common in cEDH, you're just handing games over to competent players who realize MLD is a viable strategy in cEDH and appropriately diversify their mana base.

McToters on Tajic Hatebears

1 week ago

More red/white hate:

Price of Glory

Aven Mindcensor

Loxodon Gatekeeper

Imposing Sovereign

Tectonic Instability

Stranglehold

Sulfuric Vortex

Blood Moon

Bedlam

Heat of Battle

Heat Stroke

Onslaught

I see you are already running some creatures like Leonin Arbiter that does what Stranglehold does, but thought i throw the suggestions out there anyway.

Another option for ramp which I'm sure you are well aware of is Smothering Tithe .

And i would personally run Vandalblast over Mogg Salvage unless it works well in your meta. Dont get me wrong it’s a sweet way to cheat cmc but it’s very contextual.

Maybe Assemble the Legion or Crescendo of War for funsies?!

SideBae on Typical Xenagos V3.1

2 weeks ago

Yo! RG decks are interesting. Here's what I think -- feel free to disregard it:

The main attraction of running green is having access to one-mana mana-dorks. Llanowar Elves , Birds of Paradise , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic and Orcish Lumberjack will all speed up your deck tremendously, while giving you bodies for Overwhelming Stampede or similar finishers. Exploration is a good accelerator, though it can be expensive; search for tomorrow is similar. There are some two- or three-mana dorks you might also want to consider, like Priest of Titania , Shaman of Forgotten Ways and Somberwald Sage . Having dorks ramps green faster than any other color is capable of.

Overwhelming Stampede is an excellent card; in that vein, Overrun and Triumph of the Hordes are both good finishers. If you want to put money into the deck, Craterhoof Behemoth is a great card in Legacy Elves that also works here. Grabbing Craterhoof with something like Natural Order can produce a really fast win. Green Sun's Zenith is another good tutor-spell, which can also fetch Dryad Arbor turn one.

I see you're running Nature's Lore . Farseek is a great card to fetch a mountain, especially if you choose to run Stomping Ground , Sheltered Thicket and/or Cinder Glade . Taiga is good, too, but that's pushing $200 these days... effing OG duals.

Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip is a good card, and an affordable version of Gaea's Cradle . Similarly, Slate of Ancestry is a very underrated EDH card that would be a powerhouse in this deck. In the line of card-draw, Beast Whisperer and Harmonize are worth considering.

Karplusan Forest , Spire Garden , Command Tower and Grove of the Burnwillows are four excellent non-basic, ETB-untapped lands for your colors. You should run these, if at all possible. I think they're better than Jund Panorama and Naya Panorama , as well as Rogue's Passage . You should consider Kessig Wolf Run , as well as cutting one or two lands from the final list.

Depending on how sadistic you are, you may also want to consider running some stax pieces. Thorn of Amethyst is an excellent card in most green decks, as these decks tend to produce oodles of mana and not cast too many non-creature spells. Pyrostatic Pillar and Eidolon of the Great Revel are excellent ways to keep low-curved decks in check. Harsh Mentor varies with meta calls, though it can be very strong. Stranglehold can ruin some strategies, and Price of Glory can nuke counter-heavy decks. Similarly, Vexing Shusher is useful to avoid getting countered, especially since you don't have to activate it until after an opponent casts a counterspell. Scab-Clan Berserker is worth considering.

I suggest Gamble . It's the best tutor in your colors. Eternal Witness is another pretty good card you may want to consider to get you back in the game after a board-wipe. I suggest running Grim Flowering or Nature's Resurgence for the same reason.

Your spot removal will be dependent on how hard you want to lean into Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . If you want to keep him, Reclamation Sage and similar effects are the way to go. Without him, or while thinking of him as a secondary creature, you should run Nature's Claim and/or Krosan Grip . Chain of Acid is an interesting card I've been wondering about recently, so you may be interested in experimenting with it. Hull Breach is similar to Decimate , and is often a two-for-one. Shattering Spree , By Force , Ancient Grudge , Vandalblast and Fiery Confluence are good as well.

Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion is an efficient, powerful creature that helps cycle away dead cards in your hand, all while generating mana. Huntmaster of the Fells  ^Flip is another super-efficient creature. Boartusk Liege is valuable for its anthem effect and not-insignificant body. Siege Behemoth is another recommendation, for obvious reasons.

Depending on your meta, Sunder Shaman , Choke , Carpet of Flowers , Flashfires and Boil are options. If you keep your mana-base with only a few non-basics, Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon and Ruination are good cards. If your meta is super aggressive, you should consider Loxodon Warhammer or Basilisk Collar in order to recoup life points. Runic Armasaur is another good consideration if your meta has a lot of fetch lands and the like.

Using Sylvan Tutor can let you stack your deck for Lurking Predators , and you can cast Worldly Tutor in response to it triggering to just fetch whatever creature you want from your deck for .

Strionic Resonator is a way to copy your general's trigger, and may be tremendously helpful. Resolving them in succession on the same creature results in quadrupled power.

From Modern Horizons, Collector Ouphe and Throes of Chaos are worth considering.

Alright, that's all I got for now. I hope you found these suggestions at least a little helpful. Good luck with deck building!

SP3CTR3_chelts on What to add/cut for cEDH ...

2 weeks ago

Hi I think you need to stop throwing the term cEDH around so much, is it even possible for you to win turn 3/4? what you seem to be looking for is a good casual edh deck. Which is good because cEDH appears to be quite boring.

Unfortunately boros does lack some important effects that make some other colour combinations better.

If you just want to improve your deck i would consider adding black for a mardu deck ( i quite like Tymna the Weaver // Vial Smasher the Fierce or Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder // Tymna the Weaver ) this would allow you to keep the nature of your deck the same whilst adding good tutor and card draw.

However, my understanding looks like you particularly want a boros deck. you already have kiki jiki so adding Felidar Guardian and/or Restoration Angel is an inf combo.

If you desire to make it more competative and you are happy with being hated by anyone who plays you stax could be the way to go: smokestacks // Assemble the Legion could be quite controlling. Running a lot of stax cards that are in boros colours combine with lots of artifacts, daretti,goblin welder, and as much card draw as you can find could make a nice stax deck. some stax cards Vryn Wingmare , Winters Orb, Stasis Orb, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Stony Silence , Kataki, War's Wage , Blood Moon , Magus of the Moon , Treasure Nabber , Price of Glory , Aven Mindcensor , Stranglehold . Ruination , and Armageddon . when you have grinded the game to a halt and no one can do anything really you win the game with an inf combo (you have enough already for a deck like this. Personally i think this is the best way to make boros as competitive as it can be. If you chose this direction i would surgest Tajic, Legion's Edge as it protects your stax based creatures enabling you to run damaged based board wipes without suffering.

SideBae on Rise of the Underworld

2 weeks ago

As with most Rakdos decks, I advise a reanimating package with Sire Of Insanity as the target. Animate Dead , Reanimate and Necromancy are all rather good when paired with Entomb or Buried Alive . In Rakdos, you’re generally the king of top decks. So embracing it with Sire is typically a good play.

One mistake I find in a lot of EDH decks is the prevalence of one-for-one removal. Cards like Demolish , Roast and Necrotic Wound are alright if you’ve only got one opponent, but in EDH you’re already facing 2x-3x as many cards as you have in your 2-3 opponents. This is why I suggest more efficient spells, like the Ritual of Soot I see you’re already running. Fire Covenant , Ashes to Ashes , By Force , Toxic Deluge / Damnation / Blasphemous Act and Syphon Mind are all good ways to regain card advantage when you’re facing down multiple opponents.

Another thing I suggest is that you run more mana rocks. In any non-green deck, artifact mana is the main form of ramp available. I’ve noticed there’s a tremendous difference between 2- and 3-mana ramp; cards like Mana Geode and Rakdos Locket are generally worse than Rakdos Signet and Talisman of Indulgence . Mind Stone , Coldsteel Heart , Fire Diamond , Charcoal Diamond and Thought Vessel are also options. Treasure Nabber is a good way to disrupt opposing mana.

Hand-in-hand with what I’ve been talking about is card draw: You need cards to cast with your mana, as well as powerful spells in the first place. Phyrexian Arena is an excellent source of card advantage in black, as are Night's Whisper and Harvester of Souls . Faithless Looting , Magmatic Insight and Cathartic Reunion are ways to filter your cards from red, as well as ways to get creatures you want to reanimate into your graveyard from your hand.

Fighting counter magic is something red does very well. I advise cards like McToters suggested: Price of Glory is one of my favorite cards to run in red. If you want to go deeper on disruption, his suggested Stranglehold is good, as well as Blood Moon , Ruination and Magus of the Moon (though you’d have to craft you land base to accommodate these last three). If your meta is blue-heavy, Boil is good; white-heavy means Flashfires and Dread of Night may be helpful. I don’t know your meta though, and that’s what will dictate if the color-hate cards will be good. If your meta is filled with pesky dorks, Blast Zone is a good consideration.

Harsh Mentor is a card I like landing early, as is Scab-Clan Berserker . Because your curve is relatively high, Pyrostatic Pillar and Eidolon of the Great Revel might be helpful as additional repeating burn effects. If their life-loss becomes too great, a Whip of Erebos can help you survive.

At least consider Necropotence if you decide to run life-gain. It’s typically only found in combo-decks, but in my experience it’s a powerhouse across the board. Getting a card for one life is typically a good deal.

Alright. That’s all for now. Good luck building your deck!

SideBae on Gruul Werewolves May.12 2019

3 weeks ago

So I've never built a werewolf tribal deck, but I have seen a hell of a lot of red-and-green decks. So I'll put out what I suggest.

First, you do NOT need rocks -- you need dorks. Being a green deck means you have access to Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Orcish Lumberjack , Birds of Paradise , Priest of Titania , Bloom Tender and Boreal Druid , all in your colors. Green Sun's Zenith for zero can fetch Dryad Arbor as a turn 1 ramp spell as well, and later GSZ can fetch whichever creature is best for you (like Reclamation Sage , if you choose to run it). Having all the mana helps cast fat, important spells.

Running a lot of creatures means you should run Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip, which is a WAY more affordable Gaea's Cradle .

Another bonus of the dorks is that they make things like Slate of Ancestry (which you should run) and Shamanic Revelation (which you do run) much better. Also, if you run something like Overrun or Craterhoof Behemoth , they become efficient beat sticks. If you choose to run Craterhoof, I also suggest Natural Order to get it out for cheap. Overwhelming Stampede is another good choice for a finisher.

Depending on your meta, you may want to alter your land-base to be able to run Ruination or Blood Moon . Flashfires and Choke are also on the table, depending on the colors your friends like to play. Carpet of Flowers is a good way to take advantage of a blue player. Depending on the meta, Stranglehold from your Maybeboard is also a good idea.

With regard to removal of artifacts or enchantments, Nature's Claim is a good choice, as is Krosan Grip . Ancient Grudge , By Force , and Shattering Spree are good artifact hate; Back to Nature and Tranquil Grove are good enchantment hate.

In EDH, many-for-one spells are awesome. Decimate should come in off the Maybeboard, as it's good for blowouts. I also agree with NV_1980 in that Hull Breach is a good card. Eternal Witness is wonderful recursion.

You may want to run Nature's Lore and Farseek . These are very good for finding lands, and the Lore doesn't make the land enter tapped. Further, neither specifies the 'basic' supertype, so they can get your Stomping Ground . If you put Cinder Glade in, you can fetch that too. The Lore and Farseek are better than Kodama's Reach and Cultivate , at least in my experience.

With 31 creatures, you may want to consider Lurking Predators . Also, if you choose to run Sensei's Divining Top , this card becomes even better, and running Into the Wilds becomes better.

Lands can be expensive, but the best two for you are Cavern of Souls and Ancient Tomb . Typically, you don't want your lands to ETB tapped, as that puts you behind a turn. Grove of the Burnwillows and Taiga are also pretty good. Note that, if you choose to run Grove and your meta runs a lot of x/2s or x/1s, you might want to run Punishing Fire as well.

Rhythm of the Wild is a good way to make all your creatures into more immediate threats. Shared Animosity puts pressure on hard.

Running Mana Vault and slamming it turn 1 means you can cast your general turn 2. So... it's a good idea, I think.

If you're running Gruul Turf , I again agree with NV_1980: you should run Exploration . It's a good way to get your lands down fast and efficiently.

otters on A Devastating Lack of Situational Comprehension

4 weeks ago

Stranglehold is a tad pricey, but its good disruption and excellent with timesifter

LeonSpires on A Perfect Storm

4 weeks ago

No problem. I had been wondering if Bolas's Citadel was going to make it to cEDH. Your incite on the card is very helpful. I'm glad to hear Blast Zone is working out for you. I have been considering running it in my Arcum Dagsson cEDH deck. Stony Silence , Null Rod , Linvala, Keeper of Silence , and Stranglehold have all given me issues and like mono black, mono blue has problems with artifact and enchantment removal.