Scourge of Nel Toth
Creature — Zombie Dragon
You may cast Scourge of Nel Toth from your graveyard by paying and sacrificing two creatures rather than paying its mana cost.
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Scourge of Nel Toth Discussion
1 week ago
Ok, first off, your deck has 2 too many cards, you'll need to cut those. Secondly, I think you'll find you have too few lands to be consistent. Next, I believe there are better zombies. Here's a few. I don't know what your budget is, so some of these may be a bit pricey.
Other card suggestions.
Skullclamp If you have Gravecrawler, it's a 2 mana draw 2.
Dictate of Erebos A good way to keep opponents locked down.
Thornbite Staff Combined with Gisa, you can keep pumping out zombies at a MUCH faster rate
Coat of Arms The ultimate buff to a tribal deck.
Hope that helps!
4 weeks ago
punkrawkmonkey I hadn't thought about including Tooth and Nail. While it's clearly a great form of tutoring and cheating, I'm not sure I need it already having Survival of the Fittest or that what I would take out for it. On the other hand, this would be a backup if my Buried Alive gets countered one way or the other. I'll consider getting this.
LVL_666 Razaketh, the Foulblooded certainly caught my eye when HOU came out. He could potentially be a replacement if a big threat like Avenger of Zendikar, Terastodon, etc. wind up not working out. I haven't had much of an issue with sacrificing creatures due to my meta, my opponents tend to be doing it for me most of the time. So, that would seriously hamper him.
freakingShane That's a lot of helpful information! Thank you!
I defintitely want to get an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers in there. I would take out a swamp for Urborg, easy enough, and a forest for the Cabal Coffers. I could make these part of a 'Birthday gift' to myself.
I had no idea about the Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord combo with Phyrexian Devourer and the stack. Going to have to explain that one to the playgroup once I pull that off. I will add him back in it's just a matter of what to take out now.
Realms Uncharted another card I didn't know about. Out of all my matches so far I've used Life from the Loam only once. Perhaps it was because I wasn't aware of this combo. Up until this point I was considering removing it.
Smokestack and the stax element was something I was considering as well. Awakening Zone, Pawn of Ulamog, Avenger of Zendikar, and any creature brough back EOT with Meren would make this pretty good. I have a sealed From the Vault Annihilation on my bookshelf that I may have to open up.
Yahenni, Undying Partisan would really have staying power. I could take out one of my artifact / enchantment removal creatures for him.
- zaerox12345 You're absolutely right. I got jaded from one of my earlier games where Scourge of Nel Toth was cheated in to win the game for me. Otherwise in hand it's a 7 CMC 6/6 with flying. Nothing to special considering it would not be the target of an early Buried Alive and provides no ETB effect. Good call here.
1 month ago
- Lord of Tresserhorn
- Crosis's Charm
- Grixis Charm
- Cruel Ultimatum
- Nicol Bolas
- Prince of Thralls
- Sedris, the Traitor King
- Sol'kanar the Swamp King
- Archfiend of Depravity
- Demon of Death's Gate
- Demonlord of Ashmouth
- Master of Cruelties
- Master of the Feast (this guy works with Nekusar)
- Rakdos, Lord of Riots
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Silent-Blade Oni
- Elbrus, the Binding Blade
- Dragonlord Silumgar
- Preyseizer Dragon
- Scourge of Nel Toth
- Vampiric Dragon
- Bontu's Last Reckoning
- Imminent Doom
- Kefnet's Last Word
- Hazoret's Undying Fury
- Neheb, the Eternal
- Refuse / Cooperate
- Torment of Hailfire
Some of these aren't super serious suggestions, but I think adding a few more Nicol Bolas cards from HOU would be cool. Also some of them may alternatively be good cards for your other deck.
1 month ago
So besides your commander you have only 5 cards that have blue in them. I would go mono black if you are not utilizing that color more with card draw, counter spells, control.
Dread Slaver is good in limited but not edh, it won't stay around long for it to take a bunch of stuff and also people wont mind taking the 3 to keep their dorks. you can replace it with a better beater/ blocker i suggest Scourge of Nel Toth
take out Disentomb and replace it with Reanimate to cut out the middleman, your hand. same goes for Raise Dead i would put in Animate Dead because it puts it on the field and can take from any yard. i would also cut Gravepurge and slot in Zombie Apocalypse yeah it is double the mana but you dont clutter your top deck and get all your guys out instead of slowly over the course of a few turns. remove Macabre Waltz for Dance of the Dead for the same reasons as Disentomb. another mass reanimate spell is Living Death my opinion would to remove Urza's Incubator for it.
to get into more blue take out Sanguimancy and add in Frantic Search for free card draw basically. also remove Underworld Connections for Rhystic Study. Life's Finale can be replaced with Cyclonic Rift. You already have Lord of the Accursed so Graf Harvest can come out for Lim-Dul's Vault to set up what you need. i would take out Liliana's Indignation for Traumatize indulgence is such abad mana sink you should add Dark Salvation as a mana sink and remove From Under the Floorboards. adding Traumatize works well with cards like Undead Alchemist so to slot him in remove Liliana's Reaver in addition to buff this little synergy remove Darkest Hour for Altar of the Brood to make tokens all night.
Haunted Fengraf is slow because you sac lands and you dont even get to choose you target i would replace it with Unholy Grotto. take out Leechridden Swamp for a swamp there are better ways to get to your opponents life with your mana. graveyard decks do not need Reliquary Tower.
i see you arent running the grimgrin-gravecrawler-diregraf captain combo, i would take out Jet Medallion for Phyrexian Altar to be able to kill the table. also for replacements for the captain remove Adaptive Automaton and Prized Amalgam (its slow) for Vengeful Dead and Plague Belcher
i would also try to find more slots for a for like 4 counter spells
you can check out my list for other combos http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rise-of-the-dark-realms-4/
1 month ago
Before I start, just want to say this looks like a cool deck. It looks pretty promising.
First of all, 41 lands is a bit too many. Depending on the deck, the normal recommended amount is 36-39. Your deck is fairly low-cost, so I would recommend 37 or 38.
Reap is super situational and you shouldn't play it unless you know there's a big presence of black in your playgroup.
Take out Seedtime unless you're playing against a counterspell deck. It barely ever actually works.
Take out Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest. It's just not a good card, even in a deck like this. I have a Meren deck and Mazirek never had any impact.
Take out Ghoultree. By the time you have enough creatures in your graveyard to play it cheaper, it won't matter as much. Also, a 10/10 vanilla isn't really the best play considering all the crazy shenanigans you can start up with this deck.
I recommend taking out Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord. Although it's a fine card, if you're looking to cut cards Jarad just doesn't perform as well as most others.
I would take out Kiora's Follower because I don't really see enough cards in the deck where it helps that much.
Take out Phyrexian Plaguelord. It's just a bad card.
I would take out Rot Farm Skeleton because it's a bit too expensive to work as pillow fort, and there are better ways to fill your graveyard.
Take out Scourge of Nel Toth. It doesn't really have any impact in a commander game.
Take out Zameck Guildmage. It doesn't have enough synergy with the deck.
Take out Thornbite Staff. Once again, it's just a bad card. It costs an absurd amount of mana to do anything useful with it.
This is just my opinion, so feel free to take it with a grain of salt. Have fun!
2 months ago
@picklenutz I like the idea of having Glissa, the Traitor being put in the deck given my meta's temperament towards the boots/rings and the like. Lotleth Troll while I originally removed it, I think I like having the discard option should I draw into some the of the big drops early on.
Doing some quick glancing over, I have 13 creatures of CMC 6 or higher. This should probably be brought down.
Sheoldred, Whispering One I've wanted this to work. But often it draws so much hate that I don't get to see it by the time the turn passes back to me. Most likely the next cut I'd make.
2 months ago
Shadow12721, I've been thinking about her for the past few days trying to figure out what to cut for her. Liliana, the Last Hope goes great with my token theme. I finally decided to cut Scourge of Nel Toth for her.
I kept forgetting to put her in1, so thanks for commenting and suggesting it. You forced me to finally do it. :P
2 months ago
Nice looking Zombie Deck!! I've got a couple ideas for you on ways you can make it a more powerful multiplayer deck.
My first recommendation is that unless you are playing mostly 1v1 duels I would just cut all the one use discard spells like duress. Spells like that are technically card disadvantage because if there are four players and you use one card to get rid of one card from one player then compared to the rest of the other players you are down a card also. Discard like that is only extremely powerful against one opponent. It can be good, but they don't really control the game in EDH the way they do in other formats. I would then cut the lilianas caress and waste not too. Also I personally don't like corpseweft & necromancer's stockpile (not enough creatures to use for either) or unbreathing horde (no evasion). Those cards in my experience playing zombie tribal were underwhelming.
As far as additions there are some more "Lord" effects like Adaptive Automaton, Ascendant Evincar, and Paragon of Open Graves that you can include. Phyrexian Altar and gravecrawler creates an infinite combo, and if you if you have something like Plague Belcher or Vengeful Dead in play in too, it can kill the whole table on the spot or with diregraf colossus it would make infinite zombies. I love Curse of Shallow Graves and Zombie Apocalypse in my zombie deck, they are great tribal cards. Running so many swamps you could go for Extraplanar Lens (although then I would switch to snow covered swamps) Lashwrithe, Nightmare Lash, and Strata Scythe. Larceny is a great repeatable discard effect. Scourge of Nel Toth is a good beater, it keeps coming back and flies. Buried Alive can even fetch it along with gravecrawler and vengeful pharoah. Or Filth with urborg in play for an unblockable horde.
Here is a link to my zombie tribal deck, maybe it will have more ideas for you. Even though mine has blue in it there may still be things for you to find. Happy gathering!!