Scourge of Nel Toth
Creature — Zombie Dragon
You may cast Scourge of Nel Toth from your graveyard by paying and sacrificing two creatures rather than paying its mana cost.
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Scourge of Nel Toth Discussion
1 day ago
@picklenutz I like the idea of having Glissa, the Traitor being put in the deck given my meta's temperament towards the boots/rings and the like. Lotleth Troll while I originally removed it, I think I like having the discard option should I draw into some the of the big drops early on.
Doing some quick glancing over, I have 13 creatures of CMC 6 or higher. This should probably be brought down.
Sheoldred, Whispering One I've wanted this to work. But often it draws so much hate that I don't get to see it by the time the turn passes back to me. Most likely the next cut I'd make.
3 weeks ago
Shadow12721, I've been thinking about her for the past few days trying to figure out what to cut for her. Liliana, the Last Hope goes great with my token theme. I finally decided to cut Scourge of Nel Toth for her.
I kept forgetting to put her in1, so thanks for commenting and suggesting it. You forced me to finally do it. :P
3 weeks ago
Nice looking Zombie Deck!! I've got a couple ideas for you on ways you can make it a more powerful multiplayer deck.
My first recommendation is that unless you are playing mostly 1v1 duels I would just cut all the one use discard spells like duress. Spells like that are technically card disadvantage because if there are four players and you use one card to get rid of one card from one player then compared to the rest of the other players you are down a card also. Discard like that is only extremely powerful against one opponent. It can be good, but they don't really control the game in EDH the way they do in other formats. I would then cut the lilianas caress and waste not too. Also I personally don't like corpseweft & necromancer's stockpile (not enough creatures to use for either) or unbreathing horde (no evasion). Those cards in my experience playing zombie tribal were underwhelming.
As far as additions there are some more "Lord" effects like Adaptive Automaton, Ascendant Evincar, and Paragon of Open Graves that you can include. Phyrexian Altar and gravecrawler creates an infinite combo, and if you if you have something like Plague Belcher or Vengeful Dead in play in too, it can kill the whole table on the spot or with diregraf colossus it would make infinite zombies. I love Curse of Shallow Graves and Zombie Apocalypse in my zombie deck, they are great tribal cards. Running so many swamps you could go for Extraplanar Lens (although then I would switch to snow covered swamps) Lashwrithe, Nightmare Lash, and Strata Scythe. Larceny is a great repeatable discard effect. Scourge of Nel Toth is a good beater, it keeps coming back and flies. Buried Alive can even fetch it along with gravecrawler and vengeful pharoah. Or Filth with urborg in play for an unblockable horde.
Here is a link to my zombie tribal deck, maybe it will have more ideas for you. Even though mine has blue in it there may still be things for you to find. Happy gathering!!
1 month ago
Thanks very much for the feedback, I've since modified the deck a little bit to include more zombies so I wanna keep the mini tribal theme in there for now.
Whilst this isn't "budget" as such I'm trying to avoid any overly oppressive cards, I have a pretty casual playgroup and cards like Phyrexian Obliterator are a bit too extreme (it's also why Oath of Liliana is in here over Vile Requiem, I've tried to include as many "Liliana" cards as possible).
May have to look into Vengeful Dead, Cemetery Reaper and Scourge of Nel Toth as they both seem very much on theme with what I want to be doing, originally had Whip of Erebos in and might add it back just to give the deck a little more sustain.
Have taken out Shimmering Grotto and Cascading Cataracts, was gonna keep them in just in case I reanimated a creature with off-colour activated abilities, but just having the creature is usually good enough.
Thanks again for your help, I'm gonna keep tinkering away at this deck whilst I still grab a lot of the essential components (who'd have thought a mono-colour mana base would be a pain to build? :P)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Hey I run this commander. It's one of my favorite brews. I have more emphasis on grave filling, with Geralf's Mindcrusher, Altar of Dementia, and stuff like that. So I use Witchbane Orb to help protect my grave. I also run Laboratory Maniac as an alt win, which I have pulled off a couple times. Other random cards worth looking into are Noxious Ghoul, Secrets of the Dead, Dreamborn Muse, Scourge of Nel Toth, Urza's Incubator. If you wanna peruse my brew, its on my profile. Happy Necromancing!
2 months ago
Hi! I've just posted my own B/U Zombie deck and it's interesting to compare with yours. But I use another commander - Gisa and Geralf, so the idea of my deck is to revive my creatures each turn.
Some ideas about your deck: try to add Entomb and Vampiric Tutor. It depends on budget of course but these tutors are among the best. Especially Entomb - it's designed for Reanimator decks. You can search and put into your graveyard such cards as Gravecrawler or Scourge of Nel Toth.
Then you should try Grimoire of the Dead. I like this artifact in EDH. By the way about artifacts. Your deck is Zombie tribal, so maybe you should think about Metallic Mimic?
I also think that you need more removal like Murder, Go for the Throat or Doom Blade.
2 months ago
The deck seems pretty solid. I think it has a few too many spells near the top end and would some more value creatures lower but overall seems like a great job! Meren is a lot of fun and powerful. Your style of play is a little more stax heavy which some people may not like, but good decks should be able to deal with it. If you feel like it gets too powerful, take out 1-2 (not all) cards that make your opponents have to sacrifice their creature
These cards are a little bit more expensive but I think they are all excellent pick ups and will help bring your deck to a new power level. They are also likely going to keep rising in power as well. I think your deck needs a better early game ramp package because a Meren on turn two or even 3 is backbreaking. All decks should have graveyard hate or board wipes to stop opponents who may be ahead of you.
High Market A good way to stop your opponents from exiling something. If they were to exile with Anguished Unmaking or Reality Shift use this land's effect in response and goes to graveyard instead of exile.
Deathrite Shaman A great way to stop other graveyard shenanigans.
Phyrexian Arena One of best draw spells in format. Drawing two cards while your opponents only get 1 puts you so far ahead. The life you lose is not important at all in our 40 life format.
Animate Dead Really good recursion spell that is usually used to grab something from an opponents graveyard.
Demon of Dark Schemes Board wipe on a creature that can also reanimate is very good.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel This card wins games and can help you when you are in a losing situation.
Beast Within One of best removal spells in the game.
Dread Return Great recursion spell that can be used twice.
Temple of Malady Good value card that gives you colors and helps get away cards you don't want at the top of your library.
Bojuka Bog Need to be able to stop other graveyard decks your opponents might be doing.
Elves of Deep Shadow the lifegain doesn't matter and being able to give you another color is soo good.
Scavenging Ooze Need to be able to stop other graveyard decks your opponents might be doing.
Spore Frog Good way to stop other creature decks that are faster than yours.
Shaman of Forgotten Ways Both a good way to ramp and also can be a win con if opponents have no creatures.
Victimize Great recursion spell in case Meren is not in play.
Viscera Seer Great sac outlet that also helps you draw to something useful.
Cultivate Great ramp card that also replaces itself.
Kodama's Reach Great ramp card that also replaces itself.
Black Sun's Zenith board wipes for when you are behind
Crux of Fate board wipes for when you are behind. This one is bad, but very cheap.
Life's Finale board wipes for when you are behind
Decree of Pain board wipes for when you are behind
Birthing Pod Helps you deck progress it's board state while adding to Meren's experience counters
Cards I would remove are ones that are less synergystic with the theme of your deck and/or have very little utility other than being big beaters.
Champion of Stray Souls Not a bad card, but I think it is a win more card. If you want to bring back creatures I would recommend Chainer, Dementia Master over this one as it costs less mana to cast and use its ability. But not bad.
Satyr Wayfinder Creatures that cause you to overextend into your graveyard. not bad but better ways of getting lands.
Caller of the Pack Creatures are just big beaters but have no value.
Scourge of Nel Toth Creatures are just big beaters but have no value.
Banshee of the Dread Choir Creatures are just big beaters but have no value.
Wretched Confluence Too costly for it's effect
Cloudthresher Not a good way to get rid of fliers
Bonehoard Better options to cast at 4 mana
Dread Summons card seems good but never works out in practice. Cannot use multiple times and only gives you a few zombies.
Corpse Augur better options to be playing at 4 mana
Phyrexian Plaguelord Better options to be playing at 5 mana.
Diabolic Servitude I think Animate dead is better. Cheaper to cast, and does not exile.
Powerful cards that are sweet to trade for (as in will always have value for a commander player imo). However these are over 5 bucks in some cases and may be better to trade up or I don't think are going to rise up in price in the next few months.
Birds of Paradise one of the best one drops you can play.
Avenger of Zendikar closes out many games very quickly.
Overgrown Tomb Great land that helps give you your colors and when you eventually get fetch lands you can find it. That being said, Windswept Heath can grab this for you and was heavily printed. Lands are always good things to pick up as they keep their value compared to any other card as they are used in every format.
Grave Titan One of the best 6 drops of all time
Panharmonicon Good in any deck that Enter the Battlefield effects
Leyline of the Voidcreatures in black in the 6-drop spot.
Toxic Deluge One of the best board wipes. Cheapest in converted mana cost and life is not important for how much damage it will usually save you from.
Sheoldred, Whispering One This creature is such a house. Hurts opponents and helps you.
Buried Alive a great tutor effect for your deck as your graveyard is an extension of your hand.
Noxious Gearhulk A pretty decent way to gain life and stop opponents
Erebos, God of the Dead Allow for a way to stop opponents life shenanigans and draws cards.
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is another way to stop graveyard shenanigans of opponents. He cost a lot because of standard so I would wait until he rotates.