Creature — Zombie Dragon
Whenever a Dragon you control dies while Boneyard Scourge is in your graveyard, you may pay . If you do, return Boneyard Scourge from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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Boneyard Scourge Discussion
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2 months ago
It could allow you to bring back Boneyard Scourge if it kills any of your dragons, which is nice. But you need the mana to do it - and this beast costs 7. If you had a way to haste the regent when it comes in to play, you might be able to swing for a finishing blow. Possibly a sideboard card?
If you are looking for something to help even the playing field while you build up, maybe consider Anger of the Gods?
2 months ago
I agree that I need to have more targeted removal in order to protect my board although I'm not sure if i'm too into adding cards to cheat dragons into play.
I am going to keep all the dragon lords in for flavor although I would argue that Dragonlord Kolaghan is a haste enabler which is very important, Dragonlord Ojutai is card draw and Dragonlord Atarka is sort of targeted removal which isnt bad at all.
However I do need to remove things to add in more protection, what are your opinions on Spellbound Dragon, Painful Truths, Boneyard Scourge, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami and the Teneb, the Harvester, Intet, the Dreamer and Crosis, the Purger trio
2 months ago
Good but bumpy, sort of like the base commander dragon precon. I can tell you straight up that a five color deck needs a small number of basic lands, and almost exclusively lands that produce 2+ colors. Your mana fetch/ramp must be adjusted accordingly as well.
Mordant Dragon, while good, I'm not super fond of. Orator of Ojutai is kind of ehn IMO, mostly because while it draws you a card, it doesn't benefit from things like Dragonlord's Servant's or Utvara Hellkite's abilities. Taurean Mauler, while it is a dragon for all intents and purposes, it doesn't really add anything to the rest of the deck, only itself. Tyrant's Familiar is good in a way, but it relies very heavily on casting your general to be useful, and The Ur-Dragon is often better off not being cast because it's so expensive.
4 months ago
Unfortunately, Rakdos does not handle enchantments well, and I can't think of anything that'd help at the moment.
I'd also suggest cutting back on the lands a bit. You definitely don't need that many. Blood Crypt would be another good hybrid land though.
7 months ago
Hello CinnaToastKrunch. Well you want some advice on cuts right? Well lets get it shall we. I am going to just go down the line and see what we can do and start from the beginning.
Creatures that should be cut: Boneyard Scourge, Territorial Hellkite, Tyrant's Familiar, Thassa, God of the Sea, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Spellbound Dragon, Kruphix, God of Horizons, Scion of the Ur-Dragon, and Hellkite Charger. These guys are very iffy and I personally not a fan of them, especially the first two. Whatever territory that hellkite is being protective about, he can keep it cause it isn't worth it. I wanted Boneyard Scourge to do more instead of just be an annoying 4/3 that just keeps coming back. It is also hard to pay its mana cost at times cause we as dragon deck users tap out a lot. The gods aren't doing much for the deck and I think just bog the deck down. Have you always been happy to see any of those gods upon drawing them? I am also not a fan of Scion of the Ur-Dragon in this deck, especially with a lack of recursion. If we recurred more, then yeah he would be great, but you don't have many recursion spells right now. Skithiryx to me is just so bad in this deck. He is a great card, but if you can't have him one shot people, then he will be removed before he becomes a problem. He also works better in a scion deck where scion can become skithiryx and one shot people for infect out of no where.
Creature that might be cut: Crosis, the Purger, Intet, the Dreamer, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami, Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind, Taigam, Ojutai Master, and Rashmi, Eternities Crafter. These guys are something that you must think about. I feel that the first two can be lacklust at times without scion, and some of them just get removed. Lets face it, if crosis doesn't have haste, people aren't going to let him stay. Niv-mizzet will depend on your draw package, but by himself, he isn't that impressive. Taigam is cool, but to get that rebound, he has to attack, so I feel he isn't that good, but if you want protection, maybe try City of Solitude. Rashmi, this is a card I haven't seen before and interests me, however, would prefer to run something like Maelstrom Nexus to get those cascades. She is essentially cascading for you but only the top card, and it might not hit every time.
Planeswalkers: I have no experience with Nissa, Steward of Elements, so I am unsure how she really function. Seems okay in reason, but at the same time, she is a huge mana dump that might not get you far. I think your other two planeswalkers are far superior to her and should keep them over her.
Instant; I am unsure about just the lone Counterspell. Seems odd, but might come in handy at times. I am thinking of throwing in a Mana Drain is I can get one. I would also recommend some more single target removal. Never know when getting rid of a creature or enchantment could save you the game.
Lands: I will not make any suggestions and what to cut here, because I think people should have an idea of what to cut for lands as they play the deck. Especially if they don't get the proper fixing of lands for them. I will however suggest that 44 seems a little high for my taste. I like running 37-40 as my personal preference.
Enchantments: Crucible of Fire, and Exploration. If you keep the high land count, then exploration might be worth it, but Burgeoning could also go well with said high land count. With that being said though, eventually you will run out of lands, and you need draw power to refill the hand after playing all of your lands. Crucible of fire I find is not worth it. Why not run Door of Destinies if you really want to buff your dragons, but here is the main question. Do you really need the extra damage buff on dragons? They hit really hard as it is.
Artifacts: Armillary Sphere, Mirror of the Forebears, Paradox Engine, and maybe Fist of Suns. The paradox engine should go as you are not running enough rocks that can take full benefit of the engine to do its job. The mirror is cool, but the targets it can copy are few. Remember that most dragons are legendary and this mirror still becomes a copy of said legendary dragon. Can only have one legendary dragon of the same name out at a time. First of suns just reduces the cost of our commander and I found it drawing it late game was just a huge letdown and not worth my time.
Sorcery: Index, Time Stretch, and Time Warp. I am unsure on these. Index is cool, but I think I would rather just use Fact or Fiction and Treasure Cruise. The extra turn cards are good, and they are strong, but here is something to think about. When you go for that extra turn, are you in a board state to do so, or can you kill somebody right there with that extra turn? Maybe can you kill two people. I think with extra turn cards, you better be going off and killing at least 1-2 people to make it worth it, other wise you painted a giant target on your self because people now know you run extra turn cards in a dragon deck.
Anyway, these are some of my two cents on some of the cards in this deck. Now I want you to remember, these are SUGGESTIONS. It is very important to make a deck your own and continue to develop it so that it suits your needs, and your current playgroups needs. Love a specific card, then by all means, run it. I am a huge fan of all the dragonlord cards and love them. I run all but Dragonlord Silumgar, but even I have been thinking of putting him in for the fact it can steal a planeswalker. The point is, when making/playing a deck, one needs to sit down and think about how good a card is going to be in certain situations. As I said about Fist of Suns, great early game, huge let down late game. Dragonspeaker Shaman, great for all your dragons, doesn't do crap for any of your utility spells. These are all examples of cards that can do great, but when actually playing them, they are lackluster and it could be better to run something else. I also apologize that I haven't suggested cards to replace the ones to be removed, but I think you can handle this department. Just think about what you want to do, and the answers will come. I will make one suggestion though. Selvala's Stampede. This card is game breaking and it is just to much fun.
I hope I haven't crushed any dreams or anything like that. Remember I just made suggestions and only want to help focus your direction to what you want, from here, you then need to decide what you want your deck to do. Have a great day Krunch, and stay safe.
7 months ago
You have close to an average of 5 CMC, 30 lands is simply not enough. The fewest lands I run in any EDH deck is 33 for this I would shoot for 37. You are going to need that consistency between 5 colors and high costs. It won't be easy but you will want to eliminate dragons. Try to figure out which dragons are kinda meh compared to others.
Some of my thoughts for removals are Archwing Dragon, Boneyard Scourge, Broodmate Dragon, Dragon Hatchling, Dromoka, the Eternal, Furnace Whelp, Harbinger of the Hunt, Hivis of the Scale, Shockmaw Dragon, Teeka's Dragon, Territorial Hellkite, Tyrant's Familiar. I have not played dragons but these seems the most underwhelming.
7 months ago
Week 2 Changes
- Curse of Bounty - At best this untaps a few mana rocks or my attacker (assuming he doesn't already have vigilance). At worst it untaps dragons for the dragon player.
- Curse of Vitality - This thing is just awful.
- Grappling Hook - Doublestrike is pretty strong, but at this price point I'd want it paired with trample. If it could untap a creature and force it to block or simply allow you to fight, it would help racing dragons.
- Jedit Ojanen of Efrava - Only one other deck runs forests (dragons) and not a whole lot of them. Would be good in the mirror, but there's not a lot of Cat players in our league.
- Kindred Summons - This deck is 24% creatures. And cats aren't inherently strong without being equipped so this card feels awful every time I cast it.
- Stoneforge Mystic - Gets the add to tutor up Sword of the Animist early game or Argentum Armor late game.
- Adorned Pouncer - This guy is a beating with Arahbo's eminence ability. Eternalize gives you another late game play and body to equip swords to.
- Catastrophe - Get ahead on the power curve with equipment and blow up all the lands, giving you a vacuum to knock some players out. Chose this one so that it isn't a dead draw against a resolved Ur Dragon. Also it has cat in the name, and I was sure to pronounce it "CAT-tastrophe"
- Brimaz, King of Oreskos - A above-curve beater that produces sword-carriers seems great
- Sandwurm Convergence - Spicy tech against dragons and vampires.
Week 2 Results
Sitting down in a 3-man pod against two dragon decks, I was a little anxious about the matchup. Basically I would be in charge of trying to stop two snowballs from rolling down a hill, both of which had no interest in stopping each other, but are instead interested in being the first to reach the bottom and flatten Kittytown. The game was disastrous. Despite a turn 2 Adorned Pouncer, both dragon players had turn 2 ramp plays. One dragon player quickly sprinted ahead with a turn 3 Boneyard Scourge followed by a turn 4 Fist of Suns. Turn 5 saw his The Ur-Dragon come down and a punch-in with the Scourge allowing him to cheat a third dragon into play. Turn 5 and he was sitting on 20+ power flying. I had an Adorned Pouncer equipped with something irrelevant. Then the other dragon player plays Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund and before I knew what happened, I was dead. -1 point for not casting my commander.
In the interim while waiting for the other pods to finish up after our short 10 minute EDH game, we played some matches for fun, during which the Cat deck performed better, but proved to be unable to stop two Dragon decks from going off without the help of anyone else. During those matches I ended up playing all of my basics using a Sword of the Animist and Traverse the Outlands. This would prove to be my downfall in Game 2 due to poor shuffling.
Adorned Pouncer and three lands. Snap keep. This cat comes down on turn 2 and swings for 8 on turn 3. Feeling super-medium about my matchup as a dragon player starts ramping and a vampire player starts pumping out those free 1/1 blockers. Then it happens: Fist of Suns on turn 4. Why was that included in this deck!!? Turn 5 sees The Ur-Dragon and a shaky alliance between Cats and Vampires. The vampire player manages a Blade of the Bloodchief equipped Vampire Nighthawk which redirects the "Free Dragon Parade" over Kittytown. The vampire player casts Fell the Mighty in a blow-out of a play. Sitting on a 14/15 Nighthawk, I felt like the situation had stablized, but I miss my third land-drop in a row. Stuck on 4 mana, I am in damage control mode, just hoping to cast my commander before dying to prevent the loss-of-point. The Ur-Dragon (a mere 7 mana now with Fist) swings lethal commander damage at me so I fire off a Crushing Vines in order to live. But the vampire player sees a moment of weakness and an easy kill and finishes me off with a 16/17 Nighthawk.
What a miserable night it was.
7 months ago
So... I just built this deck for my best friend, and I have a lot of knowledge if you are willing to listen.
The first thing I want to say, don't play The Ur-Dragon as your commander. I get why you did but less on your dragons isn't worth, having to pay 9 CMC for your commander. With Sion as your commander you get to play it turn 5, and put the Ur-Dragon on the table the next turn for , then you just reanimate it with Teneb, the Harvester or any reanimation tool.
Cards to take out:
Boneyard Scourge: it's just not that good, I'd rather run Reanimate or Dread Return in its place to bring back a dragon that does something and isn't just a body.
Ramos, Dragon Engine: When you play dragons you are under constant bombardment of Wraths because your creatures hit hard and do so much. Ramos will never make it to 5 +1/+1 counters which means he's just a flying body. He needs to be in a deck based around him or using +1/+1 counters.
Territorial Hellkite: Its too RNG based it's not always gonna do what you want it to do; there are just better dragons to take this slot.
Dragon Tempest: So you already have Temur Ascendancy which is better than the haste on this card, and Warstorm Surge does more damage per dragon. Ultimately this card relies on you keeping a huge board state which just isn't a reality when you sit down at the table with this deck.
Consecrated Sphinx: The card is way too expensive and it doesn't get any cost reduction because you are playing a dragon deck. There are dragons that are just better to take it's place.
Dragonlord's Servant: I get why it's in here, but again you can cheat dragons out with reanimation and this isn't good enough.
O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami: the card is WAY too situational, it assumes that you are playing against a deck that wants to attack you and not by other means. My play group is Omnath, Daretti, Mizzix, and Superfriends none of which this card works to help defeat.
Spellbound Dragon: this is only good if you discard dragons to reanimate them.
Sunscorch Regent: lets imagine you get this card to become a 20/20 before it gets back to your turn then, I can now Unsummon/Doomblade/Path to Exile/etc. and all it's hard work was for nothing. It's too big a target and takes too long to matter.
Fractured Identity: it helps the people you are eventually trying to kill too much to be competitive.
True Conviction: It's good but its too expensive when you could play akroma's memorial for the same CMC that doesn't require THREE white.
Moat: Dawg... I think you have somethings mixed up here... You are playing DRAGONS, you dare a mothafucker to swing into you! You need to feed your dragons man! Honestly you are the one on offense in this deck you shouldn't care about anyone attacking you; even if they are playing something as annoying as elves, Balefire Dragon just wipes the table with their boardstate. There's just a better card for this slot.
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