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, : Put target creature on the bottom of its owner's library. That creature's controller reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals a creature card. The player puts that card into play and the rest on the bottom of his or her library in any order. Play this ability only any time you could play a sorcery.
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Proteus Staff Discussion
4 days ago
BodhiQL The deck was meant to be a concept on the feasibility of making a Dagsson deck around Proteus Staff I know Dagsson has much more potential, and is much more powerful with a standard build, but this was made to test the strength of a creatureless proteus deck with dagsson at the head. The most competitive creatureless proteus deck is absolutely narset, but I personally find this more fun.
4 days ago
Cut an Emrakul and add a Proteus Staff. That way, once you sac a token to get the one Emrakul still in your deck, the next time you do it, you run through your entire deck and put them on the bottom in any order. This allows you to set your deck, because you only have 1 creature.
4 days ago
Running Proteus Staff seems unnecessary because Arcum can just tutor for whatever and put it immediately into play, no card draw or casting needed.
4 days ago
Interesting deck idea, I'd suggest Magmatic Insight over Tormenting Voice a good portion of the time you would be pitching a land anyway and it cost one less to cast. I think you might need a backup wincon maybe Proteus Staff or Polymorph both would mean splashing blue...
1 week ago
I wouldn't want to run Riverwise Augur or Harbinger of the Tides in this deck since I wouldn't want to bump into them while I'm having fun polymorphing. Secondly, you don't have enough creature makers to polymorph. Cards like Throne of Empires, Vedalken Shackles, Myr Turbine, Roil Elemental, and Flayer Husk would do the job. Just in case if your commander and Proteus Staff gets removed or controlled, you would probably have to have extra polymorph cards like polymorph, Mass Polymorph, Synthetic Destiny, and Blessed Reincarnation. Lastly, you might need extra activations of your commander's ability to summon giants and monsters even faster. This means cards like Stifle and Illusionist's Bracers.
1 week ago
robngraves just like any "combo" deck if all our pieces get exiled we're just gonna sit there and cry... but it's unrealistic for any deck to have a plan for after all the pieces get exiled.
As for combat damage, you need to consider that the demon has flying and there are 3 other players to attack, we've never had a problem with getting damage through cause there is always at least one player with no flying creatures. Also the point of Proteus Staff is to activate it twice across two turns... activating it once and somehow hitting all the epic spells will just put them on the bottom anyways. The first time puts General Tazri back into the command zone and finds us our demon (the other cards revealed this way are completely irrelevant.) The second time puts the demon on the bottom and since its the only creature in the deck we would put "all cards revealed this way" (which is our whole library) on the "bottom" in any order (the bottom is also the top in this case.)
If our demon gets removed, we have Corpse Dance and Nature's Spiral to bring it back and there's also a few counterspells to prevent removal. Even Temporal Cascade and Feldon's Cane can shuffle our demon and our staff back into our library just so we can find them again. Proteus staff can also be recurred with Nature's Spiral. Also think about how we will rarely ever cast our demon so it can't actually be countered if it enters via Proteus Staff
In the scenario where our demon is taken somewhere we can't get it back, our second option is to use Proteus Staff on tazri or a man-land such as Mishra's Factory and reorganize our library in such a way that sets us up to cast Epic Experiment for X = 10 or more while the Epics are near the top. And we once again run counterspells to protect this.
We've put a lot of thought into this and there is no realistic avenue we haven't thought to build precautions against.
3 weeks ago
ctenochaetus - So here's the story: I started building the deck without toothlessthedragon, and my plan was to use Epic Experiment to cast the epics. Once toothless got back to me with some ideas, he suggested Hellcarver Demon as a backup plan. Since the Proteus Staff combo was a key (and fun) part of the deck, the demon worked out perfectly.
As we playtested however, it became clear that the demon was actually a far quicker way to cast the epics, and we began to shift to a more demon central plan. The main cost is that we have to make sure we don't have any important cards in the hand when we plan to go off, so we added cards to put our hand back into our library (eg. Scroll Rack, etc.).
SOOOOO you might be right. I don't really know. It could be possible that an Epic Experiment cental deck might be faster. I think that kind of deck (with no creatures) would be more fragile. I don't currently know a good back-up plan for this deck if it can't have creatures. It would also require more pieces to get the mana. Hellcarver Demon does most of it by itself so thats what we went with. These are two different paths to the same goal, with advantages to each.
I might experiment with toothless to see if there's a faster way to do it. In the meantime I thank you for your thoughtful comment. If you have a deck you'd like me to take a look at I'd be happy to give you my input! Best of luck in your brewing and don't forget to have fun!