As an additional cost to play Withering Boon, pay 3 life.
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Withering Boon occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%
Withering Boon Discussion
4 days ago
Withering Wisps is good if you want to upgrade to snowlands
Withering Boon is flavorful and unexpected but lowkey kinda trash
1 month ago
So this deck is marked under 'help,' so I'll list my recommendations. Feel free to ignore any/all of them:
Some of your choices of countermagic seem questionable. Is there a reason you're running Withering Boon over something like Remove Soul or Essence Scatter? I guess the blue spells can be Pyroblast-ed, but I feel like not having to bolt yourself is worth it for the marginal added risk.
You may wish to consider running Preordain in addition to your Brainstorm and Ponder. Like in Legacy Delver decks, it isn't as good since you'd need to top both cards with the scry to guarantee a high CMC flip off Yuriko, but I feel like one-mana cantrips are likely good enough to run regardless.
There are some evasive creatures worth running in Yuriko because their ETB effects are good and ninjutsu bounces the creatures. I'm thinking of things like Baleful Strix, Snapcaster Mage (if you want to invest money), Trinket Mage (which can fetch Sensei's Divining Top, Sol Ring and any other 1-cmc artifacts you want to run), Spellseeker... If you want to go deep, Thalakos Seer works well with Ninjutsu, too...
You might also consider running Conspiracy or Arcane Adaptation. I like Arcane Adaptation a lot more (it costs less mana) but both are good, and if you need a third version Xenograft works. They'll make things like Gingerbrute trigger your Yuriko.
Some 4-cmc instant-speed card-draw seems alright; you leave up mana for a counter, and if you don't need it you get a draw. Consider things like Fact or Fiction, Chemister's Insight, Glimmer of Genius, Frantic Search, Gush, Thirst for Knowledge, Inspiration... They'll ding your opponents off a Yuriko flip and give you something to do with mana you don't need on their end steps.
Idk how competitive your meta is, but consider running Narset, Parter of Veils and/or Ashiok, Dream Render. These two hose card-draw and fetches/tutors, which are all very common as you go higher in deck power level. I especially like Narset, Parter of Veils with Windfall or Timetwister, but that'll depend on your particular moral compass.
Lastly, if you up the amount of artifact ramp in here you can lower the land count and make flipping a land off Yuriko less common. While it may be dangerous to go lower than 30 lands if you're not running things like Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond or Mox Opal (which you should run if your groups allows proxies), you may have luck running things like Talisman of Dominance, Arcane Signet or Fellwar Stone. If you don't land a turn-two general, these'll ramp you for the later game; and even if you do, flipping them off Yuriko's trigger is better than flipping a land.
Right. That's all I got -- let me know if you have any questions.
1 month ago
This is fun.
Rise of the Dark Realms. I love big spells and big one card finishers. I also love mass graveyard reanimation. It's so cool to cast as single spell that can change the game completely. It's so cool that this one spell can have so many different results. Especially since you are playing with your opponents creatures too. You never know what will happen in the next chance you get to cast this huge spell.
Void. I love board wipes. I'm am Mr. Boardwipe at my LGS. I really like board wipes that can be planned for. Ones that after the wreckage settles you stand alone as the new threat. The player that just turned the game completely on it's back and now you're the winning player. All because of a well timed board wipe.
Predatory Focus. I love swinging creatures for the win. I love chipping people down keeping everyone on even life total. Then bam surprise mutha fuckas. Didnt see that coming did ya. Slam down some card that gives great evasion to all my creatures for the win. Or slam down something that makes them trample for the win. I love flying creatures for this reason. This one could have also been Levitation or Archetype of Imagination. Swinging with creatures feels the most fun for me.
So me in a nutshell. Games that dont end quick or games that have lots of action. This is that type of game I strive to play. I tend to avoid combo wins even though I have one in half my decks. I hate using counterspells. They are just boring. Unless its Withering Boon or Imp's Mischief. I love those cards.
1 month ago
Some wholesale changes after a weekend with my buddies, leaning even harder away from storm-style cards and fewer creatures overall:
In: Shadowspear, Essence Harvest, Nyx Lotus, Sangromancer, Extraplanar Lens, Phyrexian Arena, Swiftfoot Boots, Venser's Journal, Soul Channeling, Withering Boon, Tendrils of Corruption, Arcane Signet, and 22 Snow-Covered Swamps
Out: Greed, Blood Celebrant, Demon's Horn, Deathgreeter, Magus of the Coffers, Tendrils of Agony, Vampire Nighthawk, Charcoal Diamond, Haunted Crossroads, Knight of the Ebon Legion, Diabolic Intent, Spawning Pit, Crypt of Agadeem and 21 Swamps
2 months ago
Your very top tier auto-include for lists is going to look like
- Force of Will "free"
- Pact of Negation "free"
- Swan Song cheap to cast and wide in restrictions
- Mana Drain color heavy but ramps the following turn
- Mental Misstep "free"
- Delay not color heavy and hits any spell, delaying for 3 turns is the same as solving it in very fast competitive EDH
Your situational includes are going to look like
- Force of Negation This can't protect your own combos, so it isn't wanted in every list. This is ran in QUITE A FEW lists though, always worth a consider.
- Counterspell Usually seen in mono or dual color decks as the cost can be hard in some 4 or 5 color shells
- Dispel Sometimes cut for a more general counter
- Muddle the Mixture Limited in scope and color heavy but this is more often slotted as a hard-to-counter tutor with a counterspell as icing on the top
- Narset's Reversal this card is pretty nice. While it does see a lot of play, it definitely isn't an autoinclude yet by any means.
- Spell Pierce Before you mock this card, consider how well it catches ultra fast mana rocks and tutors. Noncreature is very wide, and it stops Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mox Diamond Mox Opal Chrome Mox Mox Amber Mana Vault Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Mystical Tutor Worldly Tutor Gamble Dark Ritual and SO MUCH MORE. Even for a tempo card, you're still going to catch weird stuff like someone's Rhystic Study because they tapped out to pay for it. Its very strong against blistering fast combo decks, which is why it sees competitive play.
Other blue stuff is usually just too expensive. Paying over 2 mana for a counterspell just doesn't cut it when there are so many threats for so cheap. Don't pay more than 2 for a counterspell unless it does something wild on top. Counterspells with fewer restrictions on what it can counter are going to be better.
This is where it gets saucy boys
- Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast are VERY good. In a pod, there is almost definitely blue at the table. Every single red deck can slot these for commander without fear. Do note that REB works against any spell that includes blue (multicolor), while pyro only works against spells that are ONLY blue (monocolor).
- Fork Reverberate (Twincast) these allow you to copy a counterspell to create a counterspell. More access for red to counterspells. They also conveniently work very well against tutors, ramp, big draw spells, and extra turn spells.
- Guttural Response Weird hybrid color and somewhat restricted but still a good include in most RG decks.
- Burnout a bit worse then the elemental blasts as it costs 2 mana and it is limited. The cantrip is nice though
- Mana Tithe not that good in EDH but give it a whirl I guess
- Lapse of Certainty costing 3 hurts, but this is more a tempo card than anything.
- Dash Hopes Don't play this card in EDH lol
- Withering Boon on the chunkier end at 2 CMC, but in a color that doesn't get much of this. The 3 life and the restriction hurt, but definitely EDH playable. Every deck runs a commander, 99% of which are creatures
- Imp's Mischief can counter a spell by having it target Mischief, as can Misdirection Shunt Swerve and Ricochet Trap.
- Veil of Summer 1 mana green Cryptic Command
- Autumn's Veil Counterspell + silence against UB
- Bind I bet you didn't even know this card existed. Cantrips. GOOD IN THE YISAN MIRROR MATCH?
- Avoid Fate Weird protection oriented counterspell
- Nether Void Mostly ran in stax builds, brutal lockout card
- Planar Chaos One of my new favorite cards. Brutal with recursion like Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Play when you're ahead
- Deathgrip Lifeforce These are based if you have any method of color shifting. Realistically, you could run Lifeforce in Momir Hackball. These cards can cause scoops on casual tables lol.
- Vexing Shusher can render counterspells useless. Similarly, Dosan the Falling Leaf Grand Abolisher Prowling Serpopard Gaea's Herald can all protect against counterspells. Far more marginal but still worthwhile are Hall of Gemstone and Ritual of Subdual for turning off counterspells for opponents.
2 months ago
3 months ago
I like the deck. I have a question about a couple of card choices, however.
I see you have two counterspells, Force of Negation , and Spellstutter Sprite . In a counter-war, you will most likely not have sufficient ammo to get your spells through. At most, you'd have one of them in hand, two would be highly unlikely. If playing against one opponent with Blue that runs counterspells, you'll be in a bind, having to wait for him to tap out and hope he's not running either Force of Will , Force of Negation , or Pact of Negation with mana available to pay for the cost. Heck, a well timed Foil could also set you back.
Would you consider running other cards to those two? Or would you consider running more counter magic?
With my group, it's understood that if you run counter magic, you run the gamut of them; or you run nothing at all, especially with control colors of Esper. It's almost like it's required with this color combination (ironically, white also has Lapse of Certainty and Mana Tithe , so it can join the counter war while black runs Withering Boon which has surprised many a table).
If you're willing to add a more robust counterspell suite, I would consider removing your Auras in lieu for cards like Counterspell , Arcane Denial , Mana Drain , Flusterstorm , Force of Will , Narset's Reversal , Disallow , Pact of Negation , Swan Song , and if you run into many triggered or activated abilities in your meta, Stifle , Disallow , Trickbind , or Tale's End .
If you're not willing to add additional counters for protecting your spells, I would recommend getting more anthem/banner effects over Aura effects, like Archetype of Courage , Archetype of Finality , Archetype of Imagination , Bident of Thassa , Day of the Dragons (this flashed in at end of turn with a large fairy board could do some damage), Dictate of Heliod , Light of Sanction + Pestilence can wipe the board from other's creatures, leaving you an open field to swing and win; True Conviction , at triple White is too much, but you could consider it. You could also consider running Faerie Formation as a creature with a Training Grounds and a Valor in Akros on the field for a sudden card draw + creature pump and steal a win out of no where.
Heck, Path of Bravery won't net you much if you're only attacking with 1 creature every turn, but drop that and turn everything sideways when you have 20+ tokens, that's 20+ life right there on the swing. You don't have to even connect to gain the life. Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant can prevent damage to your creatures (which will help as well if you have a pestilence on the field). Drop a Karmic Justice as well, to give your enchantments a reason to not be destroyed. Consider running a Solitary Confinement if you have sufficient draw as well.
Simple suggestions, but otherwise, deck looks pretty sweet.