Thrun, the Last Troll
Legendary Creature — Troll Shaman
Thrun, the Last Troll can't be countered.
: Regenerate Thrun.
|Have (3)||metalmagic , Forkbeard ,|
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|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Mythic Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged (MBS)||Mythic Rare|
|Mirrodin Besieged: Mirran (MBM)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Thrun, the Last Troll Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey, nice upgrades for the precon.
There's several cards that are in the sideboard that are better than cards in the main deck specifically the hexproof creatures. Mutate is very problematic in multiplayer Commander because there's at least three other players who can have removal for the mutate creature. If you're not mutating a hexproof creature then removal options from three or more different players is too much of a problem. Mutating turn four like what you want to do is too risky if you're not mutating a hexproof creature.
The combination of hexproof and regenerate is very good with mutate. Protection from first being able to mutate, then after from targeted removal, then also from most board wipes and combat. Constable, Needle and Selkie are powerful if they connect with an opponent when mutated, but using them as the creature to mutate too for turn four is risky without also having protection.
Some changes to consider:
- Slippery Bogle > Hungering Hydra
- Silhana Ledgewalker > Ilysian Caryatid
- Troll Ascetic > Butcher Ghoul
- Thrun, the Last Troll > Pouncing Shoreshark
- Crystal Shard > Ram Through
- Jarad's Orders > Frontier Siege
- Nature's Lore > Rampant Growth
- Exotic Orchard > Vivid Grove
- Yavimaya Coast > Thornwood Falls
- Woodland Cemetery > Jungle Hollow
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hey I play tons of Ponza and have done for years. I play mostly on MTGO so you local meta might be different if you play at a store, but here is my take on the cards. I think I wrote a smaller book of a comment sorry about that.
first off Inferno Titan!, turn 2 moss into turn 3 titan is the most powerful thing ponza can do. Remember he can be pumped with his ability and often swing for 12 or more damage (when targeting face with the ability) plus he shoots stuff down planeswalkers and creatures alike both when he is played, but also when he attacks. The absolute best finisher for the deck.
I love Bonfire of the Damned and have played with everything from 1 to 4 copies in my main board, the one sided board clear feels so good, but I have come to realise it is just too conditional. It is too reliant on the miracle, i kept telling myself it wasn't but it really is, 7 mana for 3 damage is not worth it, you are already dead to aggro and if you have enough mana to shoot someone down with a big spike you should have already have won. Anger of the Gods in the sideboard are just better wipeing you own dudes does not really matter if the opponent just loses to a wipe and the exile of creatures is so important vs graveyard stuff.
You play Boom / Bust which i have experimented with as well, you say it cost less than Pillage, this is not true as you need 2 mana and a untapped fetch in order to play it, so that is 3 mana, plus you need a fetch to play it that is super conditional even with 8 fetches. And depending on Bust part to win the game is not something you should never wish to happen.
Artifacts, one thing Ponza loses to is Aether Vial, all the land disruption does nothing against it. So in order not to lose to that i suggest to main board Pillage or Abrade they are so good with the flexibility doing what the deck is already trying to do and able to remove artifacts when needed is super useful. Other cards they help against is Cranial Plating in affinity, Oblivion Stone the only answer tron really has and Arcum's Astrolabe which bypasses all moon activity and of course all the stupid artifact creatures that randomly appear like Walking Ballista and Myr Superion.
I know you play Primal Command for all the artifacts and such nonsense, I have played it myself in the past, but for 5 mana it is really slow and to that it is also quite conditional on its effectiveness some games it can just outright win it like mill or somthing, but more often you will lose with it in hand and it is the worst. searching for a big guy to finish with is not much good either as you would much rather play the big guy insteal of the command and i have so often lost with the searched up guy in hand as the opponent will know to kill off your mana dorks or keep a counter in hand because you revealed your plan.
your Eternal Witness Stampeding Serow combo is cute, but playing cards that are not just good on their own are a big mistake, blue deck might get away with it, but green really relies upoun mana effectiveness. I see how you can use witness's with other cards in your deck and be able to slowly grind value out, but in reality something like Tireless Tracker would be much better as it just gives value by existing and can end the game.
Okay how to win vs the bad matcups like burn, storm and control. It is so hard to win vs storm, you already use Scavenging Ooze, but other cards i use on and off is Cindervines, Weather the Storm and Damping Sphere.
to win against burn the most effective strategy I have used is the Madcap Experiment and Platinum Emperion combo. otherwise Obstinate Baloth and Kitchen Finks works, the baloth having added bonus of being really good against Burning Inquiry and Liliana of the Veil.
lastly control, i absolutely hate control. oh well here the best thing is getting a Blood Moon out turn 2 it is so important that running stuff like Magus of the Moon is very much worth it. otherwise there is of course Thrun, the Last Troll and Choke.
Hope i helped you out in some way and not just made you angry or something.
1 month ago
This deck leans really heavily on three drops. The mutate mechanic needs some lower cost creatures to get started. I see you have Slippery Bogle and Paradise Druid as low drop creatures that are hard to remove. You may want to find a few more. Gladecover Scout and Silhana Ledgewalker are good hexproof creature to add. Mana dorks are also good to mutate onto as well. Llanowar Elves et al. are fine, Birds of Paradise is probably better. I would cut some of your three drops to add some of these.
The balance between hexproof and indestructible seems like a challenge, but you kinda get both from Thrun, the Last Troll and Troll Ascetic. A few other higher cmc hexproof creature you may find interesting Witchstalker and Aven Fleetwing.
Teferi's Time Twist and other effects that blink creatures can make your single large "Voltron" creature into a small army.
2 months ago
fatalzintomyum Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad you like the deck! I think the game 1 matchup against control is probably pretty rough but that is where the sideboard comes in. 4x Veil of Summer, 2x Nissa, Who Shakes the World, and 2x Thrun, the Last Troll are pretty devastating against an UWx type control deck. In that matchup I would take out 4x Simian Spirit Guide, 2x Auratouched Mage, and 2 mana elfs. It really depends on your meta if you think more control hate is necessary but I think hexproof and planeswalkers are the best approach.
2 months ago
I'm definitely not a very enfranchised player, but I built a similar deck- Najeela, the Blade-Blossom is bonkers. Thrun, the Last Troll is the bane of all control players. I think Lightning Bolt should be in here. I'm a big fan of Hazoret the Fervent. Blood Moon and Magus of the Moon END GAMES. I like Dragonlord Atarka. My version was little heavier on dorks, and really relied on the three drops in the deck. Scavenging Ooze is really good, I think it deserves a slot. Dire Fleet Daredevil never gets the love she deserves, but this is an excellent home for her.
4 months ago
6 months ago
So I really like this deck and it seems like it is fairly resilient. A few things I would consider adding would be more cards that synergize with your life gain strategy and Trostani’s populate ability such as:
Angelic Accord More tokens for gaining life in a deck that wants to make tokens and gain life seems like a win to me.
Well of Lost Dreams Fantastic way to turn that additional life gain into card advantage.
Congregate This is a nice card that works extremely well in Commander if you need a quick boost in life. Note Congregate reads target player gains 2 life for each creature on the battlefield. Many times, when I would use this card in a commander game I would easily gain 20 plus life off it.
Serra Avatar One way to read this card is play Serra Avatar with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice in play and double your life total. Even if you don’t have Trostani out you are still getting in most cases a creature that is well over a 7/7 most games for 7 mana which is a good deal.
Aetherflux Reservoir Can function as a secondary WinCon that you can pull out of nowhere. Trust me, play this card when you have an excess life total then instantly activate it taking the player that is the biggest threat out of the game. Also, don’t write off the first ability on the card. You would be surprised how quickly you gain life by just playing spells.
Growing Ranks A free populate at the beginning of each of your turns can be extremely strong in this deck.
Advent of the Wurm 4 mana for a 5/5 trample is straight value plus this will work really well with populate.
Armada Wurm 6 mana for a 5/5 trample that also creates a 5/5 trample wurm token. 10 power for 6 mana plus gaining a token works with populate.
Glare of Subdual In a deck that wants to go wide this can quickly shut down opponents from attacking you.
Blade of Selves and Herald of the Host Both of these cards work extremely well with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice . How they work is you attack with either Herald of the Host or the creature Blade of Selves is equipped to and let the myriad ability activate creating a copy of the creature that is attacking your other opponents. Normally the tokens created off the myriad ability would be exiled at the end of combat but, if you use Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s populate ability during your combat phase you can create an additional copy of the token that will stay in play after the combat phase is over because, it was created using the populate mechanic and not the myriad mechanic. Even if you don’t populate the tokens that were created Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s life gain ability will still trigger off the tokens gaining you a lot of additional life. The myriad ability also works extremely well with creatures that have enter the battlefield abilities. Imagine this line of play, you equip Blade of Selves to your Terastodon then attack. The myriad ability triggers and you put two additional token copies of Terastodon into play attacking your other opponents. When those Terastodon tokens enter the battlefield they trigger their enter the battlefield ability allowing you to remove up to six other noncreature permanents (three from each of the Terastodon’s that came into play). Also imagine Blade of Selves attached to Serra Avatar you would be tripling your life total each time you attack as long as Trostani is out.
A few cards I would personally consider removing Thrun, the Last Troll , Primal Surge , Godsend , Strionic Resonator , Woodfall Primus , Rout (maybe consider replacing Rout for Martial Coup which seems more on theme for a token deck) Felidar Sovereign , (I get why you added him but winning with Felidar in commander seems like a cheap way to win.)
A lot of these cards really don’t seem on theme for either gaining more life or creating tokens. Personally, I would look at replacing a lot of these creatures with creatures that make tokens when they come into play like Armada Wurm that you can use to populate or cards that synergize with your life gain like Ajani's Pridemate .
One last thing your combo of Darien, King of Kjeldor + Trostani, Selesnya's Voice does not work exactly as you think. For Darien to trigger the damage has to resolve meaning that if a player deals more damage than your life total at once then you would die before Darien could trigger. As long as you have at least one life after damage resolves and both Darien and Trostani are on the field then your combo works, you create the solider token from Darien and, Trostani gives you the life from the token coming into play.
8 months ago
Commander / EDH*
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NOTICE BEFORE QUESTION: Initially, this was meant to be a Mayael the Anima deck all around; even conforming to newer; & better standards. Then, after several thoughts over her, I wanted to make a WAY better Mayael the Anima -Deck. Atla Palani, Nest Tender was just that. Saccing Eggs to find some of the Most Powerful that Mayael can also do. But I believe that after what I get after all this, Mayael will only be an Afterthought. Questions? Well, here we go...
Q1: In terms of Range of Power; The Magic No. is 4 Power. Namely Stuff w/ Great Effects; 4+ Powered Powerhouses, & just great effects. What do you think is the best out of the ones Printed as of currently? There are so many, I can't mention them all...
Q2: Oh, almost forgot. Assuming the Sac Engines needed to make Egg Tokens that create Monsters w/ incredible power, what exactly would you want to cut & proceed? Also: SACRIFICES MUST BE MADE. (As of this update: this has 127 Cards now.)
Q3: While I've an optimal amount of Instants, I have much fewer SORCERIES. Does this deck need anymore of them, or is it just fine?
Q4 FINAL: The whole purpose of this deck is to bring an entire army to the table in ONE TURN. Since this is /Naya/AGGRO, I want to know your thoughts for how to do it through sacking Eggs & bringing Fat to life in Adult Form. Based on these terms; how would you do this?
Finally, I have to ask: Am I doing too many Help Wanted Deck Help Threads? I'm just curious; that & I couldn't remember what I was initially going to say; that, & I'm apparently doing too little to help my case of trying all I can to help my problems; & from there, for such great people like you.
Hope this helps! :D