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Sower of Discord
Creature — Demon
As Sower of Discord enters the battlefield, choose two players.
Whenever damage is dealt to one of the chosen players, the other chosen player also loses that much life.
Sower of Discord Discussion
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
Cards to consider cutting to make 100:
- Demon of Catastrophes : not worth sacing a creature to cast it.
- Nightmare : not worth 5 mana, 5 of the mana cost can't be paid with Phyrexian mana.
- Xathrid Gorgon : same as Nightmare.
- Magus of the Coffers : Crypt Ghast , Coffers, Nykthos, Stronghold all better.
- Liliana, the Necromancer
- Ancient Craving
- Dregs of Sorrow
- Avatar of Woe
- Demonlord Belzenlok
- Eternity Vessel
In your forum topic you said you're not worried about reducing the high avg. CMC by cutting high CMC creatures because you can pay Phyrexian mana to reduce their cost. This is true to some degree, but you're not always in every game going to have Krrik on the battlefield, access to Phyrexian mana, and the times when this happens then having a lower avg. CMC will allow you to actually play Magic.
The other problem is why play worse high CMC creatures then Vilis, Broker of Blood , Pontiff of Blight , Sheoldred, Whispering One or Reiver Demon ? There's no reason to jam a bunch of other high CMC creatures just because you can. These creatures especially the interaction of Vilis, Pontiff with Krrik are better than all the other high CMC creatures who are within the budget here. You would rather draw them then the others therefore make it easier to draw them and don't include lots of other high CMC creatures?
Pontiff of Blight giving extort to all creatures you control is good especially if you're playing a life gain strategy. Extort can be paid for with Phyrexian mana, that's what makes it busted. Each extort trigger can be paid with 2 life, but if you have three opponents you gain 3 life for each trigger, you gain 1 life per opponents who loss life. This means you extort for free and also gain 1 life after each trigger. Even if you only have two opponents you're still getting to extort for free because of Phyrexian mana.
Before you can do anything with Krrik and Phyrexian mana you have to get him on the battlefield and this means getting four mana (colorless or black). First priority for upgrades to consider is adding more early game ramp that's within the budget:
- Dark Ritual
- Cabal Ritual
- Bubbling Muck
- Blood Pet
- Everflowing Chalice
- Mind Stone
- Fellwar Stone
- Basalt Monolith
- Crystal Vein
The strength of Krrik is Phyrexian mana, but to take advantage of this you want lots of other one mana cards. When you play Krrik you want to right away start giving him counters:
- Blood Celebrant : with Phyrexian mana this is repeatable 3 life to add , which is busted.
- Scheming Symmetry
- Rain of Filth
- Inquisition of Kozilek
- Aphotic Wisps : can kill an opponent with Commander damage.
- Tainted Strike : can kill an opponent with Infect.
Cremate, Wisps, Tainted are not usually playable cards, but with Krrik they are because they're free to cast and most draw a card. For one mana or free Symmetry can get you Necropotence into your hand.
Two drops are also good, not as good as one drops, but still good value with Phyrexian mana:
- Imp's Mischief : protect Krrik.
- Night's Whisper
- Blood Artist : cares about your opponents' creatures dying too.
- Animate Dead
You could fit Demonic Tutor and Diabolic Intent in here if you wanted by cutting some cards that are by no means as powerful as either because these tutors can get you Necropotence , Bolas's Citadel or Aetherflux Reservoir ; all more impactful cards/game winning cards. Consider cutting these cards to add Demonic/Intent? Most of these cards are high mana cost redundancy which are not needed:
I offer more advice if you would like. Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
LadyZ thanks for the suggestions! Much appreciated :).
Despark is defenitely cool, but I don't want to be too heavy on spot removal, as I already run Anguished Unmaking (being able to hit permanents lower than 3CMC) and Vindicate (being able to hit lands). The real question is how relevant it is to be able to exile permanents that cost lest than 3CMC, so I might switch Anguished Unmaking for Despark
Sower of Discord is a great card, but I don't like that it puts you in a position where you immediately make two enemies, as this deck cannot really deal with being the archenemy.
Utvara Hellkite is in the maybeboard, as I know it's one of the strongest Dragons in the game, it also costs 8 mana however...
I've played before with Indulgent Tormentor and have to say that I found it a bit underwhelming, giving players a choice will always result in the choice that's least beneficial for you (them losing 3 life) which is hardly worth it for a 5 mana 5/3
3 months ago
Some cards I like for this deck:
- Sower of Discord if you do multiplayer
3 months ago
Okey, cool! Then I would firstly recommend to take away four lands since (mathematically) you only need about 36 lands to have a good enough chance to draw them without drawing too many at any given time (also depends on how you shuffle of course ;) ). Then I would also again recommend to take a look at my deck when it comes to which lands you should play to up those a notch since there are a lot of lands that aren't very useful (especially the double-lands with no other effects) in the precon.
Other cards I genereally recommend to take out other than the lands:
So these are cards that I don't feel are good enough for the deck idea (casual/budget or not) or simply lack theme-quality. Feel free to ask if you need help replacing these cards with the cards you have or find cards that could fit the deck! :)
6 months ago
Also a good Lillianas Contract is a pretty decent way to win, a bit janky but I like it.
Hope this all helps! <3
6 months ago
8 months ago
All seem like decent adds:
- Iroas, God of Victory Protect your creatures
- Wound Reflection : A different way to get "doublestrike." Also incentivises people to attack other players for the same added value.
- Archfiend of Despair A different way to get "doublestrike." Also incentivises people to attack other players for the same added value.
- Sower of Discord : Way to spread the damage to even more players
I'd cut Sun Titan for sure. Can only get 8 targets, not counting signets, and of those, only a few have actual real value in being reccured.
10 months ago
Memorial to Glory - A useful utility land that can late-game produce some soldiers.
Militia Bugler - Some pretty solid card selection that puts a soldier out on the board, and there is a decent amount of targets.
Dawn of Hope - Can draw you cards with some of the life gain synergies as well as be a soldier creating mana sink.
Benalish Marshal - An anthem on a stick.
Endless Atlas - Card draw in white.
Divine Visitation - Now all of your Darien tokens are 4/4 angels!
Doublecast - Much weaker than other copy spells as it cannot copy opposing spells, but if you are looking for more copy spells.
Fury Storm - Another copy spell, can be better than others. Up to preference.
Endless Atlas - Card draw in red.
Sower of Discord - Doubles up all of the group slug.
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor - Encourages opponents to attack each other.
Endless Atlas - Card draw in white.
I don't have much for Ulrich or Skullbriar.
Sower of Discord occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%