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Sower of Discord
Creature — Demon
Flying
As Sower of Discord enters the battlefield, choose two players.
Whenever damage is dealt to one of the chosen players, the other chosen player also loses that much life.
77hi77 on Restrictions to make commanders interesting?
5 months ago
I've been looking through my decks lately, and it's really hitting me how weird my deckbuilding style is. So while I don't consider myself an experienced player by any stretch of the imagination, I might have some perspectives to share.
Similar to what legendofa said, I'm a huge fan of messing with the colour pie. So, one deck I'm working on is Evra, Halcyon Witness, which most people would see as a life gain commander, I see it as a really specialized version of Hatred, but instead of "Pay X life", X is set for you. So that made me think, can I build a mono-white deck that plays like a mono-black? How many options does white have for paying life and sacrificing your own creatures? I'd like to do something similar with the other colours, like how many one-drops can I use to make a funky aggro deck?
A deck I'm still in the theorizing process for is the answer to the question "how funny would it be if I built a deck where I can't cast the commander?". Right now I'm thinking Inalla, Archmage Ritualist but build the deck in mono-blue and just go blue wizard tribal. Maybe I'd allow myself a Fellwar Stone and one card that can let me steal another player's mana rock, so that casting my commander becomes an achievement to celebrate. From there it's a balance of building a viable 99 that has a chance to win the game, while sticking to the idea that I want this deck to be funny. This was very much inspired by watching Commander at Home whenever Olivia gets incoherent from laughing so hard at her own shenanigans.
My favourite deck I've built yet, which still needs quite a bit of work, is Defile Me Daddy Rakdos. Rakdos the Defiler is the commander, and most decks I've seen with him as the commander focus on how painful it is to be hit by him, then double down on that pain. I thought, it'd be more fun if I were to lean into the politics of a commander like that. So I put in a whole bunch of cards that demand deals: Scheming Symmetry, Infernal Offering, Sower of Discord, and other effects that either say "two of us will get a very nice thing" or "two of us will get a very bad thing". I see it as forcing you to get in character, you kind of have to play like a demon to pilot this demon deck.
I've also been eyeing proliferating commanders, mostly because the lands and mana rocks that use counters of some sort are really cool. Peat Bog, Altar of Shadows and Pyramid of the Pantheon, for example. Then balance it with non-standard proliferating wincons, so instead of +1/+1 counters and infect, I've been thinking of cards like Strixhaven Stadium, or the ult on a few planeswalkers (Vraska, Scheming Gorgon immediately comes to mind).
Hope that gave you some ideas! I'm on the exact opposite journey, because I'm too good at restricting myself, and whenever I try to bring friends into the game I can't really lend them any of my decks.
77hi77 on Rakdos the Defil-Loving, Kind, Salt …
1 year ago
I'm in that awful/exciting place where I'm working on 4 decks at the same time. My wallet hates it.
I've always known that I want to build a Rakdos the Defiler deck. A while ago, I posted on here looking for ideas of chaotic cards/archetypes that fit his theme. "I attack, I sacrifice myself to do it. Uh oh, you took damage, sucks to be yoouuu" is such a chaotic way to play. As I'm building the deck now, though, I'm realizing that it's so much more fun to lean hard into the politics of it. Rakdos the Defiler is a commander that forces you to get into character, and I've been fantasizing about various ways to politic with Rakdos, which should also make it a more fun game than the rampant destruction I was originally aiming for.
The two cards that really made it click for me: Sower of Discord and Scheming Symmetry. I can just imagine myself drawing a card then, grinning ear-to-ear, asking: "If this were a 2v2 game, what would the teams be?". Then proceeding to play that character of the overtly nice one to my new bestie while we both tutor. Or Wishclaw Talisman, I tap it, tutor, then give it to my new bestie; now my new bestie has to decide whether they want to give it back or betray me. It presents everyone with character choices that they have to deal with, and Rakdos the Defiler is very likely to be the scariest commander on the board, which just adds to it all. That also allows me to build my favourite kind of deck: the glass cannon, knowing that it has built in politics as a defensive measure.
So I've been looking for cards in Rakdos like Secret Rendezvous, and more Sower of Discord kind of effects to go with that theme. So far I've got the cards I've already mentioned, Zurzoth, Chaos Rider to help my bestie draw cards (and to give Rakdos some tokens to sac), Bloodthirster to pick on my non-besties, and yeah that's about all I can find. If you know of cards that help, or if you've seen decks that really play into the Generous Untrustworthy Demon archetype, I'd love to see them!
Thanks all!
ghostfire86 on Kaalia's Bounce House
1 year ago
I use to run a land destruction version of Kaalia years ago. Since then she’s move to faster kills by bleeding the opposition. Ravages of War is another mass land d card but will cost you $.
I’m surprised you’re not running Dragon Mage as a wonder wheel draw effect. Keen Duelist helps kill your opponents due to your higher cmc while offering increased draw.
Dragon Tempest is a staple for Kaalia and abused by incorporating Utvara Hellkite and Ancient Gold Dragon, amplified with running Terror of the Peaks. I don’t run a ton of dragons so I chose to keep out Utvara as it’s more situational in my deck.
You might find use in Mudslide and Circle of Flame. I run Mudslide and Moat.
Talismans > Signets, try hitting about 10-11 mana rocks. In Archenemy games where you’re the threat, Kaalia is just the decoy for removal while you more easily hard cast your threats. Quicksilver Amulet and Sneak Attack are good avenues around losing Kaalia as well, but have you considered Sundial of the Infinite which gets rid of sneak attacks drawback and opens combat combos and infinite turns to your arsenal? Maybe too much of you want to keep casual.
The Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood aren’t honestly needed in here. Archfiend of Depravity, Wound Reflection, Sower of Discord, Scourge of the Skyclaves, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight,and Heartless Hidetsugu are functionally better choices to utilize and synergize/combo.
Licecolony on no hands?
2 years ago
If you want to be hated, Torment of Hailfire. As a finished, Insurrection. Endless Whispers is quite funny. So is Cruel Entertainment and Sower of Discord
MeneerDutchy on Henzie “The Toolman” Taylor ETB
2 years ago
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MightyPox on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True
2 years ago
Ok, ignore my previous comment.
After a two year hiatus I recently started to play Magic more regularly and got more experience with my Rakdos deck.
I replaced Sower of Discord with Pestilence Demon and was quite impressed how good it is against my opponents' creatures in general.
I added Chrome Mox instead of Mox Diamond because I need the land card to come back after a Rakdos attack.
Did you take a look at some of the newer demons:
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Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos - nice cmc, could help filtering and smoothen our draws.
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Orcus, Prince of Undeath - needs to be cast so reanimating him is not good. We need a lot of mana for his second ability because of the high cmc of the creatures in our deck. But if we have 11+ mana available (maybe from Sacrifice, Burnt Offering or Treasonous Ogre) he becomes a mass reanimation spell. The haste is also nice with our extra combat step effects.
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Balor - some kind of disruption on a demon. I like it but don't know if his effect is strong enough to run him. Great art though!
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Vrock - if it said "for each permanent" it would have nice synergies with a Rakdos swing but as it is it does not do enough.
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Nalfeshnee - normally we don't cast spells from exile.
Demons I might test:
Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos and Balor are interesting but they don't really add something to our general game plan.
Orcus, Prince of Undeath could be a finisher but with the high mana requirement it is a bit situational.
king-saproling on DARKMAGA
2 years ago
You might like these: Strionic Resonator, Manascape Refractor, Expedition Map, Sower of Discord, Hatred, The Ozolith, Disciple of Bolas, Xathrid Demon, Rite of Consumption, Final Strike, Strata Scythe, Lashwrithe, Blackblade Reforged, Revel in Riches
MightyPox on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True
2 years ago
What do you think about the demon Sower of Discord? He can help us finish the game with Fiery Emancipation/Archfiend of Despair. How has Rakdos, the Showstopper played out for you so far? Is he worth it?
In your deck description you write that Pestilence Demon is for controlling token decks. Has he any other use?
Would Mox Diamond be a good addition to the deck to come back after our lands are gone?
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