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lhetrick13 on Kaalia's Treasure Trove
1 week ago
EquivocalVision - Thanks for the compliments! Definitely still a work in progress if you read the notes/updates but it is getting there! It would be so easy to make so MANY Kaalia decks as there are so many good angels, demons, and dragons but so far I am loving the dragon synergy. I really want to get Ancient Gold Dragon added for combos off Terror of the Peaks, Dragon Tempest, or Scourge of Valkas as rolling a ten with no damage modifiers out or no other dragons in play equates to 66 damage :)
I had never seen Zirilan of the Claw...interesting card. You are also not the first to mention Quicksilver Amulet so I really need to add that to the Maybe Board to experiment with. You are right about if people instantly kill Kaalia of the Vast the deck is pretty slow but that is where all those treasure producing enchantments should come in handy! Kaalia speeds up the deck significantly but without her it still does pick up stream, and makes me significantly less of a target until I am a target :)
Personally, I feel like using cards like Sneak Attack to cheat creatures out only to have them possible exiled would do the deck as it is currently built a disservice but that is a unique twist this deck could take with the Flickering. has plenty of cards that you could add in to support that strategy to make it viable and there are enough demons, angels, and dragon with ETBs effects that could be used to punish, tutor, or protect as needed. I mean, could you imagine flickering Dockside Extortionist for 2x treasure production! I may take a stab at this idea in the future as I have never looked into a deck like that but it has potential...
I did take a look at your deck...Blast-Furnace Hellkite looks very similar to Sylvia Brightspear except it is a dragon...I like this! Lots of other angels and demons I had not seen before or would like to add to my deck but room is scarce.
Thanks again for the upvote and your thoughts, I appreciate it!
EquivocalVision on Kaalia's Treasure Trove
1 week ago
Very nice deck! I love Kaalia. Love your emphasis on dragons!
I have a couple of suggestions if you're open to them.
Have you considered Zirilan of the Claw? Very good card if you're having trouble getting Kaalia to stick. People see her, they hate her, they kill her. Having a backup to cheat her out is always good. Along with Quicksilver Amulet. Good ways to make sure you don't get stuck unable to play something. Conjurer's Closet and Teleportation Circle are great in combination with Zirilan and also Sneak Attack. Imagine being able to sneak out a dragon for ONE mana, and then flickering it to untap at your end step and you get to them keep it... That's just insanely good. Or with Zirilan, you get to search for a dragon, give it haste, then flicker it to untap and keep it at the end of your turn. If you'd like, you can always check out my Kaalia deck for other ideas. I love Kaalia. I'd say she's my number one main deck I run. Kaalia's Bounce House
lhetrick13 on Kaalia's Treasure Trove
2 weeks ago
TheMeadiator - Thanks for the thoughts! So easy to go "nose blind" to your own decks so having some outside eyes is always so great to get needed feedback. I do enjoy the treasure theme but it is definitely not as efficient as it could be with Kaalia at the helm. She has a great ability but it is pretty hit or miss with the treasure product meaning some games I barely make any and others I drown in it with so many produced via Ancient Copper Dragon or a well placed Blood Money.
Hmmm...I had not thought about Quicksilver Amulet for this deck...that is a pretty good idea though and has merit...I will have to think about that but I do love the Ixalan set so good choice :)
Most games, I feel like the deck does not struggle to much in getting four lands to get out Kaalia by turn 4 and that is always the goal to get her out quick and have her swing often and early. I would say like 80% of the games that occurs seamlessly and of that other 20%, usually some early treasure production can help "fix" my mana issue to get Kaalia out like 50% of the time. So pretty consistent.
This is definitely my take at a Kaalia deck and I actually built it around Revel in Riches as I thought that was such a funny win combo that is pretty easy to achieve with the right circumstances. Plus with all the tutors, you can find thing like that pretty easy when desired :)
TheMeadiator on Kaalia's Treasure Trove
2 weeks ago
Fun deck! I like the addition of the treasure theme, it makes the deck feel different and likely helps with getting all those big creatures out if Kaalia gets taxed out or can't swing with impunity.
It looks like you've got a pretty good set up already! All I got that I might add is maybe a Quicksilver Amulet to help cheat in a few fatties if Kaalia is out of commission.
Have you run into any problems with your mana base as you've playtested?
Housegheist on That Fishy Flashy Situation
2 weeks ago
sean360 Thank you for commenting.
As described, the deck funktions pretty darn well without Prophet of Kruphix, since it’s only value is to untap and activate the abilities (Kenessos or the cheat-effects). I don’t remember hardcasting any of the fattiest yet with her ability yet. Would be an easy swap :D
Elvish Piper and Quicksilver Amulet are just for redundancy. Since it cannot be avoided to draw one of these, i must have an opportunity to cheat them in. Piper is not that mana-intense, but slow… Amulett can be activated, when it hits, which is only good, when i have said untappes (Prophet/Seedborn).
As it turned out, Season of Growth, Aqueous Form and Monster Manual have turned out to be MVPs in the deck. The provide so much value, it’s absurd.
Training Grounds is on my extended want list, but not in my budget currently :D
I would appreciate an up, if you like it. I will check yours, maybe get some inspiration.
ghostfire86 on Kaalia's Bounce House
4 weeks ago
I use to run a land destruction version of Kaalia years ago. Since then she’s move to faster kills by bleeding the opposition. Ravages of War is another mass land d card but will cost you $.
I’m surprised you’re not running Dragon Mage as a wonder wheel draw effect. Keen Duelist helps kill your opponents due to your higher cmc while offering increased draw.
Dragon Tempest is a staple for Kaalia and abused by incorporating Utvara Hellkite and Ancient Gold Dragon, amplified with running Terror of the Peaks. I don’t run a ton of dragons so I chose to keep out Utvara as it’s more situational in my deck.
You might find use in Mudslide and Circle of Flame. I run Mudslide and Moat.
Talismans > Signets, try hitting about 10-11 mana rocks. In Archenemy games where you’re the threat, Kaalia is just the decoy for removal while you more easily hard cast your threats. Quicksilver Amulet and Sneak Attack are good avenues around losing Kaalia as well, but have you considered Sundial of the Infinite which gets rid of sneak attacks drawback and opens combat combos and infinite turns to your arsenal? Maybe too much of you want to keep casual.
The Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood aren’t honestly needed in here. Archfiend of Depravity, Wound Reflection, Sower of Discord, Scourge of the Skyclaves, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight,and Heartless Hidetsugu are functionally better choices to utilize and synergize/combo.
Kaweiwu on Eldrazi Bitches
1 month ago
Quicksilver Amulet, Elvish Piper, Monster Manual, Sol Ring, Lurking Predators, Sneak Attack etc come to mind. Also, i'd add 8-9 lands. 37-38 seems appropriate for this deck. If they don't lack flavour the usual supects like Birds of Paradise, maybe Exploration or the other one. Mayael the Anima
thefiresoflurve on Atraxa Crazy Counters
3 months ago
Grateful Apparition is a slight upgrade to Thrummingbird (or could run both easily).
Semester's End could be some good board wipe evasion in a pinch, and sets you up to come back swinging.
If you're looking to run big creatures and cheat them in, you can do a bit better than Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy. Defense of the Heart is low-key broken. Some other useful cards: Elvish Piper, Quicksilver Amulet, Lurking Predators. Depending on your average creature CMC, you could just run all of them and call it a day.
Kinnan does have the advantage of being instant speed and repeatable, but it's easier and cheaper (mana wise) to setup draw alongside play-from-hand effects than it is to put mana into that activated ability. I think it's just a bit too much of a slot investment to build into Kinnan as not-commander.
You probably want a Smothering Tithe and Rhystic Study in here unless your group runs truly obnoxious amounts of enchantment removal.
Boon of Safety with Atraxa is pretty useful, or Contractual Safeguard can do the same thing for all your creatures for just 2 additional mana. I'd probably prefer the latter if I had to choose, but both are good.
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