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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Rare|
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Quicksilver Amulet Discussion
5 days ago
There is certainly power and some wonderful cmc heavy interactions you have here. Depending on what your matchups are you will do quite well, especially with those evasive angels. Even against my stronger decks I could see issues when squared up 1v1 with this if I couldn't lock you out with tempo plays.
how well do you find yourself operating during midgame? does it feel like you get punished for swinging in? how consistently can you play your opening hands? Does my removal always feel ideal/versatile enough for my matchups? Does my commander feel impactful enough?
These would be the questions I would use to hone cuts and additions by.
My personal thoughts: Since there isn't much in the decklist dedicated to pumping/protecting Jenara, Asura of War , I would heavily consider using Derevi, Empyrial Tactician in lieu of her at the helm. Birb lets you manipulate the tempo of the board, giving your angels pseudo vig, the ability to untap lands, and the synergy with a potential Sunblast Angel is hilarious. Always having access to derevi for 4 mana always feels good, lets you punish any crackback, and with efficient rocks can be used to great efficiency.
If you wish to keep Jenara, Asura of War as the mander, I would recommend some low cmc cards to give her battlecruiser like synergies and leave your favorite angels as curvetoppers. Pir, Imaginative Rascal , Hardened Scales , Animation Module , heck even Rancor can be devastating in an opening hand with Jenara. Most Jenara, Asura of War decks i have squared up against have been extremely punishing control decks that win almost exclusively with commander damage.
overall, for either case I would recommend these cards:
Garruk Wildspeaker almost never gets removed, acts as an aggressive rock with surprisingly more evasion than artifacts most of the time. the overrun will serve you well
True Conviction is an absolute all star in my buddy's angel deck. just deletes everyone with a stable board.
Greater Good could help you get some value out of your key pieces being spot removed.
Aura Shards even if you aren't using that many bodies, is always an extremely political and welcome topdeck in almost any game.
That being said I am almost certain the deck runs quite well as is, it is more dependent on what you find lacking as you play amongst your meta. Lowering the curve usually always helps smooth things out, but as long as it runs and you are having fun you gotta do you :)
1 week ago
Hey, I agree with RNR_Gaming. Add more ways to cheat Dinos onto the battlefield because Gishath is eight mana. If you don't want to do this then increase the amount of ramp a lot. My advice is consider doing both?
Road of Return is interesting, it can put Gishath into your hand from the Command Zone. Combine this with a way to cheat a creature onto the battlefield. It can be a faster way to getting Gishath onto the battlefield. Atla is busted with Marauding Raptor ; a repeatable way to cheat creatures onto the battlefield.
Tutors within the budget to consider adding:
Gamble can potentially get Mirari's Wake . Call is one of the best creature tutors in Commander. Dawn can set-up the top of your library for a Gishath trigger or for Atla.
Ramp to consider adding:
Most of these ramp options are good with mana doublers: Regal Behemoth and Mirari's Wake as these are priority cards to want to have on the battlefield since they give you the best chance of ramping into Gishath or other Dinos.
If you like some of these suggestions then I offer advice on what cards to cut. Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
I like the deck very flavorful. Have you thought about adding Cavern of Souls it's a bit on the pricey side but ensures your dragons stick. Additionally, something like Quicksilver Amulet and maybe Sneak Attack to pump out a kill at someone that's made you made all game =)
2 weeks ago
More changed inspired by comments.
If you see anything else that's a good switch let me know, or if you don't agree with something or have a better idea, feel free to comment. Thanks all for the help so far, much appreciated. We'll see how these test out, there is still more I'd like to try in the maybe board
2 weeks ago
Heck, I'll pitch in. I really enjoy this stuff...
Point 1: Argothian Wurm could probably be cut, unless you feel it's worth experimenting with. A 6/6 trample for 4 CMC is a good deal. If you find he doesn't perform, ditch him.
Point 2: Life gain doesn't seem to be the theme of the deck, so I wouldn't look to keep those cards around for incidental life gain. I'd say 90% of the time, Voracious Wurm is going to be a 2/2 do-nothing for you. Mana dork would be better, or another mana rock. Pelakka Wurm is still a fatty, though, and you could probably keep it. Mayael's Aria is a nice alternate win-con, and if you like having alternate win-cons, then it's worth keeping. If it gets blown off the board all the time, then at least you're sucking resources. Cut at your own discretion.
Point 3: Saltskitter . I don't see an issue with keeping it. It's cute, but not useless, and you need something in the 4 drop slots.
Point 4: Naya Charm . Modal spells are always nice, and although one of the modes might not be as useful, you never know when you might have to trip up a token army. Clearing a path for combat is always good, and Regrowth or or Eternal Witness are always good cards; this one is at instant speed. Worth running, I think. What I would consider is replacing Swords to Plowshares with Generous Gift . More flexibility.
Point 5: Lurking Predators could probably be cut and not be missed. Helps with your commander isn't on the field, but is replaceable.
Point 6: Mayael's Aria - see above.
Point 7: The Planeswalkers: I'm mixed on the inclusion of Planeswalkers. What I do is evaluate the + and - abilities. You've done that pretty well with Garruk. He can at least protect himself with beasts, and at worst, he's another copy of Rishkar's Expertise for you, which isn't bad. He's worth keeping. I'm not as sold on Vivien. First turn, she either gets you a land (because you usually want to keep the creatures in the library), or is a Beast Within for 5 CMC. Not a good trade in my mind. Her ultimate is great, but if your group let's you ultimate her, then they're a bunch of idiots.
Point 8: The creature droppers. Like you mentioned earlier, you're going to end up with creatures in your hand, whether you want to or not. These will help you drop them at the end of an opponent's turn, providing pseudo-haste, which is not bad, and gets around counter spells for the most part. The Piper is the best of the bunch as far as cost goes, but fragile because it's a creature. If I was going to cut one, I'd probably cut Quicksilver Amulet in this deck.
Hope that all helps, and I look forward to seeing other opinions, too.
2 weeks ago
Made some changes based on your suggestions, let me know what you think. Longish read condensed.
Argothian Wurm : Early game goodness, late game could slow us down facing certain decks that can abuse lands.
Naya's Charm: I have mixed feelings about. 3dmg to creature only feels like a waste. Returning a card from the yard could prove useful if commander tax adds up. Lastly and most used is clearing a path to swing. Should this slot be filled with a better removal spell, or is there worth I'm missing here?
Lurking Predators : Our new commander has a similar ability that's less annoying. Also its not a 'May' trigger so we could potentially be forced into casting our deck into a wipe.
Mayael's Aria : There's no other counter synergy in the deck, but bigger is always better. Surprise wincon? Slot in something better?
Garruk, Primal Hunter vs Vivien Reid : One or both? Garruk protects himself on the ground, draws cards, and makes a mess of Wurms. Vivian finds critters, destroys flyers (glaring weakness in the deck), and an emblem to boost our field. Both technically have the same turn clock to go off except Garruk can be used as a 5cmc one shot draw spell, whereas vivian can minus and have points remaining.
Something else I've been mulling over is what to replace these last 2/3 with... as they are no longer as useful, at least not all of them. Piper may have a use to stay being: a) it's a creature that can be egged, and b) with a haste enabler out it can be 5cmc for 2 creatures.
Belbe's Portal : 8cmc(5/t:3) investment for 1 creature limited to type.
Quicksilver Amulet : 8cmc (4/t:4) investment for 1 creature
Elvish Piper : still may have it's uses. 5cmc (4/t:1) investment, haste enabler preferred prior to casting.
3 weeks ago
I think you could cut Advent of the Wurm and Crush of Wurms . Yeah, they're on theme, and yeah, they make big tokens, but I think you've got more than enough wurms in the deck, and Atla can't get them out for you. I'd rather have two more removal spells in those slots, or in your case, Evolutionary Leap and Fanatical Devotion . If you don't want to run Ashnod's Altar because you don't want to go combo, then you may not want to run Thornbite Staff , either; that will save you about $13 right there. Combos can be a good time, but they aren't always welcome in some groups.
I'd cut Sakura-Tribe Scout for either another mana dork like Llanowar Elves , or a mana rock, or something like Zendikar Resurgent . I'm on the fence about Burnished Hart ; you might be able to do with cutting that one, too. If you think about it, it'll cost you 6 mana to two land cards; better off running something like Skyshroud Claim since you're in green. Or, plug in Mirror Entity there.
Now, I'm at a tough spot; the rest of what you got seems good to me; fresh eyes will help with this. But, I'm on the fence about Urza's Incubator . If you're deck is doing it's job right, you should be casting your wurms very often, and therefore, it could be dead card a lot of the time. But, if she get's blown out for a while, making fat wurms 2 cheaper is boon. Tough call on that one, but I thought I'd throw it out there for your consideration. Kind of the same with Elvish Piper , Quicksilver Amulet , and Belbe's Portal ; all good back-up plans, but how often will they be needed?
I hope this helped out some. I look forward to seeing the suggestions of others.
3 weeks ago
The big question is, 'how competitive'.
First things, flat upgrades and options. Elvish Mystic can be another four llanowar elves, cards like Skinshifter tend to perform better than Fog Bank , Elvish Rejuvenator is usually better than borderland ranger and even Farhaven Elf is bettered by Sakura-Tribe Elder . In terms of big threats, things that can't be hit by your opponent are popular. Inkwell Leviathan , Kalonian Behemoth , Plated Crusher , Drownyard Behemoth etc. Another popular type is cards that help you stabilize- Pelakka Wurm type effects.
In terms of stratgy, focusing on mana curve will do a lot. Plan turns 1-7, and try to make sure that doing one thing flows cleanly into the next thing.
If you want to get super competitive, Arbor Elf , Utopia Sprawl and Birds of Paradise is the core of this deck style. Traditionally, it ramps into 4-5 drop threats, which are the largest spells not-cheated in modern. 1 drop turn 1, 3 drop turn two, 5 drop turn three. Thragtusk is old school with it, but there are various five drops that perform well enough, and most of it fits into the 'ponza' land destruction archetype or other ramp strategies (titan, combos, etc) when you want to go full spike.
Now for the middle roads- the fun kitchen table stuff. Leyline of Abundance offers huge payoffs for playing a lot of 1 drop mana dorks. Quest for Ula's Temple / Slinn Voda, the Rising Deep / Whelming Wave offers a cute tribal strategy, while things like Quicksilver Amulet let you cheat big stuff into play. Mirror Image / Quasiduplicate / Saheeli, Sublime Artificer / Tendershoot Dryad is a cute 'go wide' strategy which lets you mess around with Mirrorweave .
If you can think of it, theres a combination of cards that let you do it somewhere in magic- the trick is getting them to run smoothly.
Quicksilver Amulet occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.02%