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Creature — Hippogriff
Flash *(You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant) *
Creatures entering the battlefield don't cause abilities to trigger.
Hushwing Gryff Discussion
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 2 | 11 COMMENTS | 397 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
(OP Revising in progess...)
(NOTE: This is a Topic for cEDH Players that seem to know Boros on a more positive note.)
First Card: Hushbringer . It's no Hushwing Gryff , but I dun even know if there is a way cEDH Boros can use Flash besides Vedalken Orrery . Torpor Orb is another good alt. But this is one Step Up to the Plate; Not only would Creatures' ETB Triggers get negated, but death triggers do nil. Sure, Aristocrats may be too able to prevent creatures from dying before this Fae dies first. But in the right hands, this can potentially lock them down, but are they truly worth cEDH Standards?
Second Card: Deafening Silence
One spell each turn? How about only playing one Noncreature Spell each turn? This might move as a Mana Color, forcing others to restrict to mostly creatures; & I could've thought some of the better decks don't run that many Creatures anyway; Sans CMDR. This can a hard card to beat. Unless your cEDH Deck has few Creatures, this could force your opponents to Scoop if played precisely.
Q: How much trimming down mostly noncreatures by the time the deck is at 100 cards might be needed??
Well, Throne of Eldraine has a full spoiler, but I've no clue how Adventure Cards Work. That said, both Hushbringer & Deafening Silence are great adds; but this also gets to a point of frustration as so many of my Creatures ETB. I just hope any of my combos I did work on was for at least something. I'm going to need your help all over again. If I add both aforementioned Mono- cards, & if I keep Rest in Peace in, Death Triggers won't matter, meaning Hushbringer & Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero are not needed. But what about Deafening Silence ? Would it be a true stallion? Also, should I keep one of the following, or both: Hushwing Gryff , & Torpor Orb ? & in any of that case, how to surpass them both in Boros Colors? I'm even working on combos that prove Boros is more than just Aggro, Stax, & even Mill. We're talking Card Draw, LEGIT Mana Ramp, & other effects. What would you cut just to get even a little closer to 100 cards?
Thanks for still hanging onto me to show the cEDH Players that this might be worth using, that said, I'd like some constructive criticism, & some cuts if any; Some wanted me to quit. I say MUCH different. Two awesome cards in cEDH Boros; IN ONE SET? That's pretty good IMO; at least this means WotC does care in some aspects...
Thanks for any suggestions, if any, & I hope actual cEDH Players help this time, I feel the last several times I did this, I've too few cEDH Players who run Boros even now, & more "Casual" players instead.
Just tell me your cEDH experience, & I'll let you suggest adds, or cuts. Otherwise, this OP is now closed.
Honorable Unmentioned: Fires of Invention : I wonder how I can incorporate this to cEDH Boros; Experiment Frenzy is completely Random, but I've Rule of Law & Eidolon of Rhetoric anyways. So my only problem is to play as many lands as possible. I wonder if it's worth it...
4 weeks ago
I've been sitting on a Hushwing Gryff for a while that also shuts down ETB triggers but it also shuts down Obzedat. That being said as the deck builds up speed with the recent upgrade I've seen It looks like the trade off might be worth it.
1 month ago
Local meta requires that I have answers for etb effects. I chose Hushwing Gryff over Tocatli Honor Guard because it's instant speed so it can come in play only when needed. Added bonus of being evasive to help trigger Marisi. I think a hatebear heavy list like this is bound to have anti-synergy, see Containment Priest . You just need to be careful when you play them. If you have any suggestion, I would be happy to hear them.
1 month ago
Otherwise, sweet deck!
2 months ago
I'M BUMPING THIS TO SEE IF ACTUAL cEDH BOROS PLAYERS EXIST, & WANT TO HELP.
After over the exact amount of time a Colonial Era Ship take to make a delivery to the 13 Colonies later, (At least 2 Months; we've let this die for way more.) I now have some truly serious questions worth asking:
Wily Goblin was very fun while it lasted, but another Gobshite has taken his place: Dockside Extortionist . w/ an ETB effect that can easily allow a new wincon for cEDH Boros if you can allow Hellkite Tyrant into the mix for instant win bigger & Faster than most Boros Wincons, do you believe either deserve a place here?
Sun Titan would be good for these kinds of decks which most of the whole deck is either CMC3 or less. in addition, we also have Eldrazi Displacer ; which I'm self doubting myself for having basically an infinite amount of ETB Triggers, all nullified by either Hushwing Gryff , & Torpor Orb as anti-ETB material. Since the cEDH Community is unanimous that Sunforger actually blows here, & I don't want to use Feather, the Redeemed as the 99; even though she is Tier 3 now, what cards can shut down either one, yet not need to be swatted by Stony Silence or Null Rod as well? 4 Cards this deck fears, & even though I want cuts, I also want options. Is Wear / Tear good enough?
There are some cards in combos I'm missing out of in the Description/OP. In the colors of Boros , , & only, what do you think would work?
As ol' Feather is Tier 3, that's where I start as well. What decks in particular in this Tier are the best of said Tier for each archetype?
Can you use Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero as a CMDR, & when he dies, & self exiles himself (Given Rest in Peace isn't in play...); after the ability resolves, can you put it back to the Command Zone afterward? EVERYONE says no. But I just wanted to know to be sure...
&... That's all I got. For now. I just wonder if my questions are worth an answer (Or 5.)… I'll try to work on this, but I might need actual help from the cEDH Community that does care for Boros as an identity. Thanks for any help from a true cEDH player. ;)
3 months ago
Orzhov Signet , Zulaport Cutthroat , and Reassembling Skeleton are some great includes I see you're missing. If you want to keep the deck's power level down I wouldn't add too many tutors otherwise there is Vampiric Tutor and Entomb as some low cost powerful ones that weren't mentioned already.
The deck is lacking instant speed interaction which means you aren't going to be able to stop what your opponent is doing very well. I suggest adding Swords to Plowshares , Path to Exile , Anguished Unmaking , Despark , and Aura of Silence .
Lastly run some disruption because an Orzhov deck can always go the distance, but is SO slow to get there. Hushwing Gryff and Aven Mindcensor are instant speed disruption with a flying body that can really mess with an opponent's plan.
I would honestly rate your deck as more of a 6 power level and no where near a 8-9 as those can compete with cEDH decks or are cEDH decks themselves which can combo off around turns 3-6 and run a million counter spells to prevent your opponent from doing anything... Being in the 7-8 range is really the happy place but its dependent on your meta. If this deck is an 8 in your current meta then I would be hesitant to upgrade it too much because you don't want to leave your playgroup behind or it always turns into arch enemy where everyone kills you off first because your deck is so much more powerful then all of theirs. I actually have a friend who has this problem and even after de-powering his decks the slogan of "Rule 0: Kill Chris" is still said and obeyed a lot of the time.
If you enjoy listening or watching podcasts I suggest you check out The Command Zone podcast on Youtube or itunes. They have a few episodes where they specifically cover balancing your meta and how to avoid these conundrums.
3 months ago
Lastly there are 2 cards you are going to HATE so you have to make sure you have ways to deal with them and they are Torpor Orb and Hushwing Gryff . They can be a real pain when your deck relies on ETBs for removal so having some more spells or activated abilities might be a good idea. I Suggest including a Beast Within and maybe Viridian Longbow , Heart-Piercer Bow , or Thornbite Staff as these paired with Yarok's death touch allow you to remove any creature.
Hushwing Gryff occurrence in decks from the last year
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