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Tocatli Honor Guard
Creature — Human Soldier
Creatures entering the battlefield don't cause abilities to trigger.
Tocatli Honor Guard Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey, nice budget Esper deck. Looks like you're not finished?
In Esper colors you can take more advantage of opponent disruption and you kind of need more of it if you want to consistently cast Chromium, who's seven mana. Control the game more by slowing down your opponents which can give you more time to prepare the game for when you drop Chromium. I think you should stick with Tocatli Honor Guard . In fact I'm suggesting to expand on it. Of course this means cutting most creatures who have an ETB ability.
Chromium doesn't have an ETB ability and there's not very many creatures here who do. In Commander many decks, much more than not, rely on ETB abilities from creatures to get value or even to win. Shutting this off can give you a big advantage. Creatures who exile other creatures or permanents when they ETB are risky because of board wipes. When these creatures die from a board wipe then the exiled card goes back to the opponent. Board wipes are more important for Control then these creatures.
In Commander 26 lands is very low for a Control deck. This is the amount of land you would play in a 60 card Control deck in Standard. In Commander there's a lot more than 60 cards therefore you need more lands because you want to make your land drops each turn. Mana rocks and other spells that can get you lands in your hand or on to the battlefield can help, but even with these cards you need more land. You really want both. There's only 91 cards here; my advice is start with adding 10 more lands and the three budget Signets: Azorius Signet , Dimir Signet , Orzhov Signet .
Budget lands to consider adding:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Caves of Koilos
- Ash Barrens
- Esper Panorama
- Sunken Hollow
- Prairie Stream
- Irrigated Farmland
Cards to consider cutting to add lands/Signets:
- Fleet Swallower
- Drowned Secrets
- Psychic Spiral
- Psychic Corrosion
- Thought Collapse
Consider cutting the opponent mill theme? Opponent mill is not very good in multiplayer Commander unless your dedicated to it. Graveyards are a huge resource for so many types of decks in Commander; mill will most likely help your opponents rather than hurt them. I wouldn't play mill unless it's the main strategy of your deck. Playing many wheel effects and having infinite mill combos as win conditions.
Other budget cards to consider adding (some of these are in the maybeboard):
- Aven Mindcensor : disrupt opponents tutors including Fetch lands.
- Notion Thief : deny opponents from drawing a lot of cards.
- Blind Obedience : prevents haste and denies your opponents from using artifacts for mana when they first come onto the battlefield.
- Hushbringer : a supercharged Tocatli Honor Guard.
- Rule of Law : can prevent many combos in Commander and it slows the game down for you to better control.
- Narset, Parter of Veils : allows opponents to only draw one card during their turns.
- Day of Judgment
- Cleansing Nova
- Diabolic Tutor
- Fellwar Stone
- Arcane Denial
- Detention Sphere
- Generous Gift
Cards to consider cutting:
- Final Payment
- Drown in Sorrow
- Deputy of Detention
- Hostage Taker
- Conclave Tribunal
- Shell of the Last Kappa
- Tome of the Guildpact
- Dire Fleet Ravager
- Sphinx's Insight
- Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted
- Nightveil Predators
- Basilica Bell-Haunt
- Dimir Guildmage
- The Haunt of Hightower
- Rise from the Tides
1 month ago
2 months ago
2 months ago
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 2 | 11 COMMENTS | 397 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
(OP Revising in progess...)
(NOTE: This is a Topic for cEDH Players that seem to know Boros on a more positive note.)
First Card: Hushbringer . It's no Hushwing Gryff , but I dun even know if there is a way cEDH Boros can use Flash besides Vedalken Orrery . Torpor Orb is another good alt. But this is one Step Up to the Plate; Not only would Creatures' ETB Triggers get negated, but death triggers do nil. Sure, Aristocrats may be too able to prevent creatures from dying before this Fae dies first. But in the right hands, this can potentially lock them down, but are they truly worth cEDH Standards?
Second Card: Deafening Silence
One spell each turn? How about only playing one Noncreature Spell each turn? This might move as a Mana Color, forcing others to restrict to mostly creatures; & I could've thought some of the better decks don't run that many Creatures anyway; Sans CMDR. This can a hard card to beat. Unless your cEDH Deck has few Creatures, this could force your opponents to Scoop if played precisely.
Q: How much trimming down mostly noncreatures by the time the deck is at 100 cards might be needed??
Well, Throne of Eldraine has a full spoiler, but I've no clue how Adventure Cards Work. That said, both Hushbringer & Deafening Silence are great adds; but this also gets to a point of frustration as so many of my Creatures ETB. I just hope any of my combos I did work on was for at least something. I'm going to need your help all over again. If I add both aforementioned Mono- cards, & if I keep Rest in Peace in, Death Triggers won't matter, meaning Hushbringer & Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero are not needed. But what about Deafening Silence ? Would it be a true stallion? Also, should I keep one of the following, or both: Hushwing Gryff , & Torpor Orb ? & in any of that case, how to surpass them both in Boros Colors? I'm even working on combos that prove Boros is more than just Aggro, Stax, & even Mill. We're talking Card Draw, LEGIT Mana Ramp, & other effects. What would you cut just to get even a little closer to 100 cards?
Thanks for still hanging onto me to show the cEDH Players that this might be worth using, that said, I'd like some constructive criticism, & some cuts if any; Some wanted me to quit. I say MUCH different. Two awesome cards in cEDH Boros; IN ONE SET? That's pretty good IMO; at least this means WotC does care in some aspects...
Thanks for any suggestions, if any, & I hope actual cEDH Players help this time, I feel the last several times I did this, I've too few cEDH Players who run Boros even now, & more "Casual" players instead.
Just tell me your cEDH experience, & I'll let you suggest adds, or cuts. Otherwise, this OP is now closed.
Honorable Unmentioned: Fires of Invention : I wonder how I can incorporate this to cEDH Boros; Experiment Frenzy is completely Random, but I've Rule of Law & Eidolon of Rhetoric anyways. So my only problem is to play as many lands as possible. I wonder if it's worth it...
3 months ago
3 months ago
Local meta requires that I have answers for etb effects. I chose Hushwing Gryff over Tocatli Honor Guard because it's instant speed so it can come in play only when needed. Added bonus of being evasive to help trigger Marisi. I think a hatebear heavy list like this is bound to have anti-synergy, see Containment Priest . You just need to be careful when you play them. If you have any suggestion, I would be happy to hear them.
5 months ago
Ok, so after playing with this for a bit I have made the following modifications. Removed 2x Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice , 3x Disfigure 1x Mountain . Added 4x Knight of the Ebon Legion , 2x Shock and swapped 2x Plains for 2x Isolated Chapel in the mana base to compensate for the earlier black requirement. This was always meant to be an aggro deck to prey on the likes of Wilderness Reclamation so more one drops to start beating earlier seems natural. Disfigure might be a better choice than Shock for its combat trick potential but the added reach and ability to pick off low loyalty plainswalkers have swayed me towards the latter for now.
I have also removed Gideon Blackblade and Mortify from the side board, these were meant to help in the control match-up but I found you don't need them with the speed this deck can kill. I replaced them with a fourth Tocatli Honor Guard and Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded to help against Sulti Dreadhorde matches which I see as the worst match-up and potentially be good in the mono-red match-up.
5 months ago
Commander / EDH*
Yep, an "Exile Matters" Deck; though I think I went too far in this case. Stuff like Food Chain are in for stuff like Squee, the Immortal , Misthollow Griffin , & Eternal Scourge to fuel the mana, but I can't find enough stuff that exiles themselves to be reused. Basically, if the card says "Exile (Card Name with this Ability)" on the text, tell me why it needs to be there. Recently, Someone actually decided to use Manifest/Morph/Megamorph effects here for the sake of Inverter of Truth . I also have stuff like Eater of Days , & Leveler ; basically, stuff requiring ETB activations as drawbacks. Even worse, Riftsweeper is an ETB creature requiring this kind of ability; so stuff w/ "Creatures entering the battlefield don’t cause abilities to trigger." like Torpor Orb , Hushwing Gryff , & even Tocatli Honor Guard can't be used. Which is ironic as one theme of my Kykar, Wind's Fury Vorthos Deck is just doing anti-meta; so she can even say "NO" to ETB Triggers. I hope you can understand this BTW.
I need help finging more Cards that Self-Exiles itself to be used again.
Awesome amounts of power, but it also negates everything else when using Anti ETB stuff like Torpor Orb & Hushwing Gryff . Any possible way I can still do ETB effects besides the ones that ends games for me VERY FAST, & prevent any opponent do the same?
Thanks for the help if you wish; I'm quite in a bind right now...
Tocatli Honor Guard occurrence in decks from the last year
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