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Show and Tell
Each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card from his or her hand into play.
Show and Tell Discussion
1 week ago
Hi again realsoupersand,
Had to fly out to Ottawa, ON in Canada for a bit, so back in action.
50% of the time, I win with my primary win-con, which is Buried Alive + Reanimate , generally between T1-4 depending on how much tutoring and mana ramps I have available. It's CMC4, which happens on T1 occassionally, T2/T3 more realistically.
Karmic Guide is a critical component of that combo, also, yes she is playable with Kaalia of the Vast . Also enables Razaketh, the Foulblooded from the graveyard, and provides for sac/tutor. It's usually never a dead draw, and at CMC5 is still playable from hand, on occasion if the game is going on, and the Protection: with Flying also has assisted occasionally. Other than her obvious CMC as just a recursion tool, she's generally been good, and a requirement for the primary win-con.
Angel of Despair is just a Vindicate for CMC7, its ridiculous and only 5/5 flying. However, it's what I ALWAYS Tainted Pact to when Show and Tell + Omniscience , unless they have Leyline of Anticipation it's "usually" good enough. I can tutor Anguished Unmaking , however, I have to give priority up with an Omniscience on the table, so it's far too late by then. Can also destroy other random threats if needed too. She's borderline for sure. Red Elemental Blast is too slow in this case.
Angelic Arbiter was answering the Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge but now it's always Kess, Dissident Mage . Also for Tooth and Nail type encounters (eg: Craterhoof Behemoth ) or any type of haste/recursion. All together stops a few. I usually just put 1 response to any situation, because I just tutor the exclusive solution needed.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope protects against MLD type situations, but she's not difficult to remove anyway, everyone's removal deals with her no problem. If she buys me an extra turn though, it's worth it. Can also put a player on a turn timer or make them act before prepared (no Force of Will for example), sometimes... Not the strongest for sure. Or like a The Gitrog Monster looping destroy maybe...
Balefire Dragon is again, just to solve specific issues or eliminate high value ground targets. Like the others, Tainted Pact to hand whenever, a situation calls for it. I tried to cut back on creature controls (ex: Damnation ) just because its not a creature world, but often creatures can be enablers.
Baneslayer Angel cut, served no purpose other than lifelink for the Hatred but the CMC5 was too much, and only removed a single opponent. Serra Ascendant T1 "usually" puts enough pressure on 1 player (usually )), who is now on a turn timer, spending life for tutoring becomes harder, and sometimes waste time removing it. Statistically found, I was usually nearly 1 turn earlier to win with Serra Ascendant , plus overcharges me for an early Necropotence or Razaketh, the Foulblooded win or Doom Whisperer win.
Phyrexian Arena is tough, high CMC, no return. It still the second highest played card in commander, and I don't know how else to draw? Mardu is a drawing nightmare. Have to think on it, how to deal with it but agreed, same issue is with Bloodgift Demon . I've had Skyline Despot recommended has a same turn impact (draw at EOT), but also, might be ramping oppponents draw too, especially if I have no way to reconnect on attack as Skyline Despot doesn't have trample.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight has the added benefit of removing 1-damage win-cons like Impact Tremors , Blasting Station , Goblin Bombardment , Dragon Tempest (with 1 dragon), Etc... Also puts pressure on. Usually just for a specific application though. I think my interaction package is more similar to a Thoughtseize type application, where if I can't win early, I tutor what I need to address the specific threats, instead of using Instant spell to do them? If that makes sense. Gisela, the Broken Blade i've cut.
Hellkite Tyrant was specifically answering an almost consistent Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. It's been a while since C16 set now, so definitely seeing it less and less. Might help with Teferi, Temporal Archmage or Urza, Lord High Artificer on occasion. It wasn't enough on it's own though, it also needed a Linvala, Keeper of Silence to go with it. Prior to this, I had nothing to compete with Breya, Etherium Shaper , had no way to win.
Lyra Dawnbringer is on my cut list now, might become the Sire Of Insanity or something like that. Mother of Runes works good with Master of Cruelties , also can protect Kaalia of the Vast , makes guys like Balefire Dragon unblockable too, or protects a Razaketh, the Foulblooded and becomes Tutor mana, or blocks an early Infect attack. Slow yes, but has some utility. Also can protect my Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Worldgorger Dragon causing me to win (instead of lose). It's borderline for sure, have to think about it. Aven Mindcensor feels good, looking for a way to include him as well as the Sire Of Insanity .
Steel Hellkite I tried for over a year, I would either, not be able to connect (no trample), or when I did, not enough mana to get the threat that I really needed to remove. I gave up on Steel Hellkite , also needs a Mother of Runes for support.
Ancient Tomb is back in, can't recall why I removed it. Think it screwed me one game with the colorless, but now that I've removed most of the colorless, it makes sense. Prismatic Vista isn't great, only 2 basics (can put in the snow's but for why), I like that it filters a land out (lower probability of drawing a land), but also destroys my mana-fixing as well, so agreed, unnecessary in this build, but feels weird.
I'm probably going to continue reducing CMC and reducing land counts as you've recommended, but needs some expensive 0-CMC rocks which I don't have, or some resource planning around alt. mana sources.
Overall goal is still to build for cEDH, understanding that consistency isn't going to push into more than a Tier-2.5/3 categorization, so I'll go over High Power again later lol.
Thinking about Interaction, I really don't want to go heavy into that with things like, Dismember or Lightning Bolt would rather let the opponents use their removal, and PRAY that I can sneak through a combo. If I combo T1 it has a fairly high success rate (other than a Pact of Negation which eliminated themselves) usually don't get stopped (Odd Force of Will or Swords to Plowshares here and there), T2 is still decently good, often others are still tutoring for a T3 win, but outside of T3 or beyond, usually I need to wait until someone tries to combo, and then is stopped, before I have a chance. I just go for it whenever I can though, increases winning % over trying to strategically go for it and being too late.
I think perhaps Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast or both perhaps will be handy, Silence I wish it had Split Second (like Teferi's Protection ) because most combos don't have a "sorcery" speed interaction so doesn't stop. Can protect me on the turn I'm going for it like another Grand Abolisher but outside of that not highly useful. Will do some playtesting with it and see if it improves my completion % for combo and increases my combo win % because that's all that matters.
I decided not to go MLD, can Stax/MLD certainly is a strategy, but prefer just to ignore others, and just go for the win myself, win or lose. Plus I don't repopulate my hand nor ramp, so probably just slowing myself down instead of the opponents. Plus I don't have a Ravages of War so would require a financial commitment, would rather focus on finding a way to go for the win on T1-T3 more consistently.
I think if you found Kaalia of the Vast wasn't competitive using MLD before you dissolved that strategy, don't think it's the right course to go down either. Would rather try some out-of-the-box planning, and see if we can get her into a cEDH, which your comments are VERY helpful, and VERY appreciated. Think I've made some decent strides, still waiting for my card order to come in the mail so I can make some more cuts/adds to the deck!
I'll reply on high power shortly since it's lower priority, and hopefully you'll see my deck going in a stronger direction. Pushing that T1 probability up is key. I keep thinking there must be a T1 with Entomb and Goryo's Vengeance that I can do somehow? Razaketh, the Foulblooded would need another enabler, but there must be someone (like Griselbrand aka Griselbanned) to win with? Hmm.
1 week ago
Hi firesparker, Infect is more difficult in Multiplayer Games. I played a Atraxa Build with Infect for 2 Mounths. Your biggest Problem are your Opponents and there know what you play.
I try to give your my suggestion.
- Try to play Blightsteel Colossus over some Cheat-in Cards like Show and Tell , Defense of the Heart or maybe Quicksilver Amulet .
Take more focus on Poliferate
Use dirty Cards like Tainted Strike for take out someone if an Opponents attacks with a Fattie.
Putrefax Awesome Dude, maybe play with Reanimate/Regroth/Eternal Wittness
Phyrexian Hydra Fattie
Master Biomancer push your Creatures
Tezzeret's Gambit Carddraw + Poliferate
Triumph of the Hordes Overrun
Contagion Engine Poliferate but high Cmc, depending on your Meta.
Evolution Sage Landdrops with benefits
Craterhoof Behemoth Value Finisher if you had this Budget.
Grafted Exoskeleton also good, but expensive (CMC)
Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon Must have.
Mostly important is your Manabase and Mana-Rocks.
You will play fast as possible. Cut Lands that enters tapped.
Play Atraxa just you can protect her. Abuse her Lifelink every Combat and cut Cards like Fog ...
Your opponents do not want to attack you if Atraxa is online -> Deathtouch.
Maybe you need more Carddraw, Topdeck-Control:
If you build more around +1/+1 Counters with Master Biomancer -> Herald of Secret Streams
BUT, i think your Build is also good with more focus on poliferate.
1 month ago
Narset, Parter of Veils is a great way to limit your competitive opponents. Especially if you pair her with a well-timed Windfall . Ashiok, Dream Render happens to be another way to punish people for playing tutor-tribal kinds of strategies.
Another hallmark of competitive decks is their ramp, especially zero and two-mana. In your description, you say you want to stay budget -- unfortunately, that rules out about all of the good zero mana ramp. ( Mox Tantalite is bad, and Mox Amber is hardly better most of the time.) So I suggest increasing your two-mana ramp, and maybe including Ancient Tomb if at all possible to speed up their presence on the board. Some to consider: Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Dominance , Coldsteel Heart , Fellwar Stone , Mind Stone , Everflowing Chalice , Prismatic Lens , etc. None of these should be more than a few bucks.
Concerning your lands: I think you're running too many, especially if you add some of the ramp mentioned in (3). I'd cut four-ish, maybe five. Generally, once you have a few (3 - 4) lands, you'd rather have a rock and a land in hand than just two lands, since you can cast the rock without using your land-drop. I'm not sure HOW budget you want to keep this deck, but Mana Confluence and City of Brass are each around $10, and they're great in any three or more color deck. Pain lands ( Caves of Koilos , Adarkar Wastes and Underground River ) are better than your tapped lands like Sejiri Refuge , as far as I can tell.
I think a reanimation package is probably better than running Show and Tell . Show and Tell is symmetrical, and is often actively dangerous to resolve in EDH, when everyone is trying to do busted stuff. I'm much more a fan of Buried Alive and Entomb to get your fatties in the bin, and then using Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Reanimate and/or Necromancy (which is $$$ for some reason) to get them back.
Tutors like your Demonic Tutor are good, but like zero mana rocks they tend to be pricy (see Vampiric Tutor and Enlightened Tutor ). One I do suggest is Lim-Dul's Vault , which is only a couple dollars these days. It also happens to be instant speed, which is kinda dumb-powerful, if you ask me.
Cumulative upkeep was designed to make powerful effects transient; however, Aminatou, the Fateshifter sorta changes that equation with her -1. Consider cards like Mystic Remora , which you can blink to keep around relatively indefinitely. Similar cards to consider are: Musician , Phyrexian Etchings , Tidal Control and Infernal Darkness (if you're particularly mean).
Divining Witch is interesting -- I'd actually never seen that card before. If you're trying to exile your deck and win with your Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , I think Demonic Consultation is probably a better way... though you might want to keep both. Another method (that I think is worse) is to use the card Doomsday , which is only a few dollars. The problem is that if you run Doomsday , you'd likely want to run a Doomsday -package, so you could win by just casting it and drawing into your top card... For that, I'd suggest talking to someone smarter than me, as I've never been able to get the hang of what the hell is going on with that strategy. All I know is that the package usually has something like Gitaxian Probe and Lotus Petal and ends with me being dead.
You may have good luck with card draw spells. Repeatable effects, like Phyrexian Arena and/or Dark Confidant , tend to be expensive; luckily, the spell versions are often decidedly less so. I suggest running a few or more of the following: Painful Truths , Night's Whisper , Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time (running both can be tough since delve can get in its own way), Fact or Fiction , Thirst for Knowledge , Concentrate , Chemister's Insight , Oona's Grace (questionable, due to the high mana requirement), Ancient Excavation (good with the reanimation mentioned in (5)), Archmage's Charm , Chart a Course , Syphon Mind , Deep Analysis and/or Words of Wisdom -- pay extra attention to the instants you can cast on an opponents end step. Another way to do this is simply to steal your opponents' card draw with Notion Thief or Plagiarize .
Lastly, I know its around $11 these days, but I think Counterbalance would be dumb in this deck. Using your general's +1 will let you stack whatever you want on top, which can be especially devastating if you can keep an opponent's general off the board that way.
Good luck man! Love this deck.
1 month ago
Dredge4life thanks for that xD
Okay, so that makes sense, I assume I could use Leyline of Anticipation , Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir , Behold the Beyond finding Show and Tell , Omniscience and Enter the Infinite as well as a Counterspell . Pretty easy win from there. Beacon of Tomorrows , Time Stop , Spellbook , Narset's Reversal , God-Pharaoh's Statue , Elixir of Immortality , and a ton of Islands to cast Show and Tell .
2 months ago
Nathanaiel Wow, thank you so much! Always appreciate a fan, that really means a lot :D. I'm glad the deck made such an impression in your head, especially after going through so many iterations over the years. Glittering wish has just always stuck with me ever since learning about the Show and Tell deck archetype. They use Cunning Wish to fetch all of their win cons from the sideboard, and with Omniscience in play, can cast it all. I was looking for a way to replicate that in modern, and once I noticed both Kitchen Finks and Murderous Redcap were multicolored, I knew I was onto something. Obviously, the moment Karn, the Great Creator came out, I immediately made one of those decks as well. The wish mechanic is fascinating, especially with things like Surgical Extraction being so prevalent, it just feels a little bit more special to play a deck this way. Thanks for all the support! Hope you enjoy Cabal Therapist as well, that thing is a beast :D
2 months ago
I'm running Eye of the Storm over Thousand-Year Storm due to the fact that it's a perpetual storm engine due to its oracle text saying that you cast the copies, which means more triggers to Aetherflux Reservoir , more storm stacks for Ignite Memories , more copies of Bonus Round et cetera. Thousand-Year Storm is a great card don't get me wrong but it requires more on your behalf to work as effectively as the Eye which automatically wins the game when you exile Turnabout and Impulse under it (which generates a loop of always untapping your lands or rocks and a way to dig for more spells to feed into the Eye until you find an Ignite Memories or a Bonus Round + Lightning Bolt ).
I don't feel it's worth the trouble to run both due to their higher CMCs and due to the turns being so valuable, I can't justify them both because I usually cheat out Eye with Show and Tell anyways as described in the combos and go off with that.
Still, Thousand-Year Storm is a fantastic card and I feel like other Melek lists can really get a bang out of their buck if they are running it.
3 months ago
What I like about Jodah is that I also have a Jodah deck -- Jodah Has a Few Tricks Up His Sleeve -- that I think is kickass, but using the compare decks feature I see that there's a difference of ~55 cards. It's sweet that he facilitates such a wide variety of decks -- there's no single best way to build it. I run a much lower CMC list, there are some differences simply because I don't have the cards ( Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , Emrakul, the Promised End , Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger ), and I see why you wouldn't want to play Omniscience and Show and Tell .
Anyways, here's a handful of the cards that I run and you don't that I've had good results with:
Bringer of the Black Dawn - paying WUBRG for the Bringers is sweet if Jodah gets removed
Vial Smasher the Fierce - the high CMC of Jodah decks makes Vial Smasher awesome
Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder - adding cascade is great
Teferi's Protection - your primer says you run it but your list doesn't have it
4 months ago
- Vona, Butcher of Magan
- Szadek, Lord of Secrets
- Voldaren Pariah Flip
- Blood Baron of Vizkopa
- Champion of Dusk
- Garza Zol, Plague Queen
- Kazarov, Sengir Pureblood
- Mephidross Vampire
- Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker
- Nirkana Revenant
- Necropolis Regent
Like...what the fuck do you even do against a turn 3 (turn 2 off a mana dork) Blood Baron of Vizkopa in Modern?
Show and Tell occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%