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Meren of Clan Nel Toth
Legendary Creature — Human Shaman
Whenever another creature you control dies (is put into a graveyard from the battlefield), you get an experience counter.
At the beginning of your end step, choose target creature card in your graveyard. If that card's converted mana cost is less than or equal to the number of experience counters you have, return it to the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand.
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2 days ago
I am now replacing Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus in the majority of my EDH decks, because of how expensive those decks are, and my Meren of Clan Nel Toth deck is next for being updated. I shall definitely be putting Decanter of Endless Water in the deck to replace one of those artifacts, but I am not certain about the other.
I am now choosing between Letter of Acceptance and Unstable Obelisk, since each of those artifacts has a secondary ability, beyond producing mana, and I would like to have the feedback of the other users on this forum; what does everyone else say about this? Which of those two cards should I put in my Meren deck?
1 month ago
Jodah doesn't strike me as a commander that fits the reanimator style terribly well. If you want to go 5 colour I think Kenrith would probably suit you better, but I'll give this my best shot.
First off, I don't think throwing in as many reanimator legends as you can is the best way to go about it. A Baldor deck plays differently from a Muldrotha which deck plays differently from a Whisper deck. Even the two Chainer decks play differently from each other. You're better off to put hardly any legends in this deck at all and prioritize just a handful of them that play similarly. This way if you don't have one on the battlefield and you cast, say, Yawgmoth's Vile Offering to reanimate a creature, you could theoretically cascade into Meren of Clan Nel Toth with a reasonable amount of consistency.
Choosing the legends will pretty much dictate the style you will play. If you go with Muldrotha and Meren, you'll want to prioritize low cost toolboxy cards like Spore Frog and Ravenous Chupacabra as one of their decks normally would do. If you go with Feldon of the Third Path and Chainer, Nightmare Adept then you'll want to go with discarding big beefy threats and adding doubling effects like Parallel Lives and Flameshadow Conjuring. Sedris, the Traitor King would be an excellent legend to run alongside these two.
You also need to seriously review the structure of this deck. Your land base has far too many one-colour and tapped lands without the proper ramp package to support the colour fixing. One of the problems with 5 colour decks is the increased need to finely tune the mana base.
37 creatures is also far too many. Reanimator decks are midrange, grindy decks that require a lot of non-creature support to work efficiently. It is much better to run a suite of very specific creatures and back the deck up with instants and sorceries. I also don't see any sacrifice effects other than Victimize. These are a must. I would suggest having 8 or more sacrifice effects unless you're playing strictly for a Living Death wincon. ETBs are the meat and potatoes of these decks, and you can't take advantage of them properly without a way to return those creatures back to the graveyard. You'll also have to think of how to get your targets into the yard for reanimation. I normally put 12+ of these effects unless discard or milling is stapled onto the commander.
Overall I think it is definitely doable with this general (and certainly a unique reanimator deck if you do pull it off) but it will require some intensive effort to get it right. Definitely a wrthy deckbuilding challenge.
You're in 5 colour so you'll have access to all the best targets for whichever line of play you choose, but this will come at the cost of variety or unique cards that you often find in one and two colour decks.
Best of luck, I hope I've helped steer you in the right direction.
1 month ago
Thank your for your feedback! I am a huge Castlevania fan myself so I HAD TO make this reference, and yes SotN is a masterpiece!
Reconnaissance has served me very well during the games I drew it, the card really does feel like cheating! Dark Privilege is great to protect my Vampire Lords, however, I would rather protect the whole board, I feel like I already have enough protection spells in my deck. It is definitely a nice card and I might slot it in my Meren of Clan Nel Toth Deck, can serve as a sac outlet and protect the commander.
Speaking of decks, I had a look at your Yawgmoth, Thran Physician Deck and tested it out myself, works really well and love the flavor of it!
Lethal Scheme is interesting, spot removal and card draw in one card for potentially only 2 mana. If I ever feel like adding more spot removals, I am definitely gonna consider slotting this card so thanks for showing me. :D
2 months ago
This talk of "printing legendaries that makes other invalid" is ridiculous.
This is a casual format. The main draw, the primary attraction, to this format is that there isn't a wrong way to do it as long as you're having fun. I play Savra, Queen of the Golgari because I enjoy her, even though Meren of Clan Nel Toth and Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest exist. None of them made her invalid as a strategy.
There's this weird feeling in the room like everyone wants to min/max their casual commander decks, and it's that idea - that there's a wrong way to play, and "why would you play X when Y exists" - that's actually toxic to the format. It's not about the new cards. A new card ALWAYS gives MORE options, not fewer. And as much as I may miss the "specialness" of getting the once-a-year precon sets, greater access to this game in the form of more cheap commanders and more preconstructed decks is a feature, not a bug.
3 months ago
Muldrotha wasn't a precon commander, but I'll still do one of the precon leaders...
Meren's Dominance over Death
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.
Each player mills cards from the top of their library until they mill a creature card. Then, for each player, you may put up to one target creature card from that player's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. For each player that you didn't as such, you make a 2/2 black zombie creature token and gain 5 life.
There's Meren of Clan Nel Toth's sorcery showcase.
Next challenge: Make a card that makes a unique token. (Some kind of token, creature or otherwise, that doesn't exist as far as you know. Example: A 5/1 Zombie creature token with Decayed.)
3 months ago
Really appreciate the feedback QuiteFrankly13!
I've purchased a lot more cards in the last week or so, including Chainer, Dementia Master and Woe Strider. Luckily, I already had a Carrion Feeder laying around, so he's made the cut as well. I've played this a few times now and it's for sure coming down to being able to strike a balance between pulling from the graveyard, and actually getting stuff in there. The biggest hurdle I hit my first two games was just getting cards from the deck to the graveyard fast enough. So, I also ended up adding / replacing some cards with ones that would mill the deck, or allow me to draw/discard, or even better yet, place straight from the deck to the graveyard. I've also been thinking about trying out Meren of Clan Nel Toth, as they seem to be a more effective commander for this type of deck. Additionally, they maybe stand a lower chance of upsetting all 3 others. Unlike Sheoldred, Whispering One who might become too much of a target since they force everyone else to sac creatures.
Thanks again for the help. Hopefully I'll have the (at this point) version 2 of this deck up sometime in the next few days after I get a few more rounds in to make sure it's working out at least somewhat better than before.
4 months ago
Seasons Past - Reap - Restock - Wildest Dreams - Timeless Witness - Skullwinder - Meren of Clan Nel Toth - Genesis - Praetor's Counsel - Rise of the Dark Realms - Twilight's Call - Bala Ged Recovery Flip - Regrowth - Greenwarden of Murasa - Creeping Renaissance
4 months ago
Thanks for commenting, ProxyTTV!
The reason I don't run the card in this deck as well is because I prefer running Ashiok, Dream Render and Nihil Spellbomb for graveyard hate, and I really don't need more. The reason I prefer them over Voidwalker is because Voidwalker doesn't remove cards that are already in your opponent's graveyard and can't give you card advantage until the turn after it's played. Plus, although this is perhaps a little niche, I live in a meta where Animate Dead isn't uncommon, so graveyard hate on a creature can sometimes turn bad for me.
If you play in a meta with a lot of graveyard interaction and/or plenty of big cards you can cast off of Voidwalker, it's definitely still worth running though!