Aetherspouts

Instant

For each attacking creature, its owner puts it on the top or bottom of their library.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

DreadKhan on Commander Deckbuilding Advice - A …

1 month ago

I mean there is always Roon of the Hidden Realm that blinks stuff and is in Bant, some of the best blink colours? It used to be a real house of a Commander, but now we have stuff that's just way quicker and with a better top end, so you don't have to be stuck in Bracket 4. If you blink something like Yorion, Sky Nomad you can blink a bunch more stuff. You can also throw in good old Brago, King Eternal as a value piece (every time he sneaks in he blinks all your relevant stuff). A real feature of Roon is that Green can help you tutor up creatures, meaning you can find your Archaeomancer more reliably.

The other option I'd suggest is Grand Arbiter Augustin IVGC, and you'd be more into using flicker spells and benefiting from the discount to make them better, while slowing down everyone else. This would be a higher power deck potentially, but would also be harder to run.

I'd go with Roon if you want a less pushed deck (Bracket 2 or 3), or something like GAAIV if you want Bracket 4 blink to work.

This discussion reminds me of a deck of mine a bit, if you're in mono-Blue and you have enough mana and tutoring you can easily set up a game state where you can constantly return stuff from your graveyard to your hand (where you can recast), I used Talrand, Sky Summoner and instead of Fogs I used stuff like Aetherspouts and AEtherize (and Polymorphist's Jest haha) to ruin people's days, I used a mix of Proteus Staff and a low creature count (and having those creatures draw extra cards) to set everything up, and then juggled Stream of Thought and Call to Mind to get anything I want back into my library, where Proteus Staff can reorder my library to then draw said card. FWIW if you have infinite mana (I used Dramatic Reversal and Isochron Scepter for infinite mana) I think you can just infinitely replicate your Stream of Thought to mill out everyone but you, not quite winning on the spot but very close.

Argy on Brew my deck for me

6 months ago

“I agree with most of them, but propaganda/dissipation field don’t work well with aetherize.”

I’m not so sure about that, Bookrook

I agree that AEtherize doesn’t work well with Dissipation Field but it’s great with Propaganda at game’s end.

The attacker has to pay {2} as they are declaring attackers, then all their Creatures go back to hand.

The only thing I would say is that I’ve been in games where nearly all Creatures were cast again, in the second main phase. Which is why I prefer Aetherspouts

Argy on Brew my deck for me

6 months ago

Two cards I have also found useful in EDH, because they allow for a board wipe, are Aetherspouts, and River's Rebuke

Polymorphist's Jest can also help to get rid of Opponent Creatures, or at the very least cut their damage down.

Note that all these cards require you to have excellent timing, so test with them before adding them to your deck.

Lazotep Plating is an excellent protection spell.

Turn to Frog is another good option, however I think Polymorphist's Jest is far better, for EDH.

Of course the strength of these all depend on your playgroup.

DreadKhan on The Quackening

2 years ago

I have a Quest for Ula's Temple deck which does some similar things, I liked Dreamscape Artist because it can reshuffle your library as needed, incase you don't have a relevant creature to work with on top. It's technically only 1 mana and a card to Harrow (you get back 2 untapped lands, so it can also helping mana fixing) Blue, and I could be wrong but I think your Commander wants the odd Discard outlet too. A worse (but still potentially useful) piece of Blue ramp is Apprentice Wizard, it's not as good as Dreamscape, it's like Worn Powerstone, which is a good rock if you want bigger ramp to potentially cast a big creature a bit sooner. Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus are big ramp rocks with decent ratios. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers are pretty good together, if you have a lot of devotion to a colour Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx can help, Deserted Temple can untap any land that makes extra mana. Less rampy and more of a big Scry effect, Soothsaying is a neat card if you care about your deck order. Scroll Rack is better but costs more.

Just a general idea, you might throw in things like Reconnaissance Mission, Bident of Thassa, and Coastal Piracy along with some Unblockable or Shadow creatures (Thalakos and Dauthi are the Blue and Black tribes). You can also throw in stuff like Sword of the Animist, Dowsing Dagger  ^Flip, Prying Blade, Goldvein Pick, Grim Hireling, and any other attack payoffs you can find to generate more value over time. I understand you want a sea-monster theme, but you might want a way to draw some cards/get in some chip damage to soften people up. The only drawback to Shadows is that they can't chump block. If you really want your evasive creatures to be able to chump, there are some small flyers like Spectral Sailor and Thousand-Faced Shadow that have other upsides, these are risk free but are way less evasive than Shadows.

On that note, if you're worried about getting attacked you might look at Propaganda, War Tax, Flood, and Fatespinner are all great ways to make you hard to attack. Mass Diminish, Polymorphist's Jest, Sudden Spoiling, AEtherize, Aetherspouts are all great cards for people to fear.

Callous Oppressor is a funny repeatable theft effect, Ritual of the Machine and Helm of Possession can both steal stuff and are great with tokens, Thieving Skydiver can steal an artifact creature fwiw, Sower of Temptation is a so-so theft effect that shines bright if you can flicker or bounce it, Thalakos Deceiver is probably way better since he permanently steals whatever and can be reanimated, Inevitable Betrayal and Bribery are both pretty sweet.

The biggest (and perhaps best) theft effects are Mass Manipulation and Cultural Exchange, exchange requires bodies but can also be used aggressively to just ruin two players' boards.

Inkwell Leviathan, Lochmere Serpent, Spawning Kraken, Stormtide Leviathan, and Wrexial, the Risen Deep are some relevant creatures I use, some are better than others but there is nothing as bad as Sea Serpent or Bog Serpent, both cards I love but don't use.

If you like Whelming Wave, you might like Spectral Deluge as well.

Hope some of this helps, Big Dimir is a fun deck!

DreadKhan on Fun commanders

2 years ago

I think I'd look for a Commander that comes with some card draw stapled to it in some way if you are starting out and want to limit budget, but one that also avoids undue attention. Good card draw tends to be very $$$, but stuff like Sygg, River Cutthroat can draw lots of cards even if people are just swinging regularly, the Commander rewards you for people losing life, a thing that happens as a matter of course. Dimir is really good at drawing cards, creature removal, and Blue is full of spells that can save your butt very easily, it's not just about casting a Counterspell, sometimes you want Aetherspouts. Blue can solve almost any problem (in theory), and do it at instant speed, I know when I was a new Commander player it bothered me quite a bit if I lost to a deck because I couldn't deal with some vulnerable lynchpin in their strategy, much more so if I don't run anything that solves it (and thus will always lose in that situation). Blue avoids that feeling better than any colour I'd argue, but it's also the hardest colour to play 'optimally'. The biggest weakness of Dimir is that your creatures tend to be smaller weenies or utility dorks, so you can't just go taller than a Gruul or Naya deck, especially on a budget, if you have an inner Timmy (a player who likes big, splashy cards to excess) Green is probably more your speed. Green also has lots of card draw, and has stupid cards like Squallmonger that are pretty budget, give that Deathtouch or Lifelink and you're in incredibly good shape, but what if you throw a Keen Sense or Snake Umbra on it? 2 mana and 1 life for 3 cards isn't bad for a budget deck, having something that'll clear out flying weenies can be priceless in Green.

stevezsiga on Talrand Spell Slinging

2 years ago

I like the build! I am currently working on constructing one of these myself and wanted to ask... What do you think about Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Copy Artifact? My meta is full of people with high powered decks and I'm trying to figure out a way to match their shenanigans, kind of by making a mono U prison deck that just doesn't allow for many big things to happen.

Other cards like Bribery, Inundate, and Aetherspouts amongst others seem really good.

chickeneyebrows on Path of Precons Frequent Flyers

2 years ago

After the first two plays of the deck it does what it says on the tin (or packet) in that it lets you sit back, draw cards and work towards having a large flying attack force. However, it doesn't have enough answers or disposable blockers to prevent you getting beaten down in the meantime, and the ramp is so poor that Isperia is being cast on time (not before time). The card draw from Isperia is terrible if at that point you don't have a way of defending yourself from all the attackers.

I still think the deck needs better ramp (so more rocks, or a Smothering Tithe) but it also needs:

• low cost creatures or enchantments which pump out flying blockers for the early turns
• mass removal that doesn't hit my own stuff, so Settle the Wreckage, Aetherspouts or Cyclonic Rift.
• a lower cost commander that synergises with the Flyer theme

As I have a copy of Inniaz, the Gale Force I'm tempted to swap that for Isperia. It can certainly pump my board but I'm not sure about the gaining control of other players permanents thing. I can afford to give away flying tokens if I have enough but I guess with opponents it would be best to give away their most problematic creatures etc.

Dragaan on The One Drop Zoo

2 years ago

also unsure why Guttural Response? Is being able to cast it off a basic mountain (and I guess protection from something like an overloaded Cyclonic Rift or an Aetherspouts..) worth using it over Veil of Summer?