Aetherspouts

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For each attacking creature, its owner puts it on the top or bottom of their library.

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MaxymuzGG on Help optimizing my Wilhelt Precon

1 month ago

I was thinking of getting Damnation,Toxic Delugeand maybe Extinction Event I already have Noxious Ghoul and Aetherspouts...

I could use land/enchant that remove hexproof, or run a bit of counters?

Myrd on List of holy day / Fog effects

3 months ago

Aetherspouts

AEtherize

Settle the Wreckage

multimedia on Undead unleashed combo upgrade

3 months ago

Hey, nice upgrades on a budget so far for the precon.

Opponent mill strategy is an interesting choice/change from the precon. Opponent mill that's not an infinite combo, but done over many turns can be risky in multiplayer Commander because graveyards are a huge resource for so many decks.

The precon has too high of a mana curve with over 20 cards that are 5 CMC or higher. You haven't really changed this, but you have reduced the number of lands to 34 from 40 in the precon. By reducing the number lands, but not reducing the mana curve you risk not being able to cast spells until much later in a game. You're right to reduce the land count and 34 lands is fine, but the rest of your deck also needs to be reduced especially since you've added Bolas's Citadel.

Upgrading to better high CMC cards which you have done with Rise of the Dark Realms and Bolas's Citadel is good, but you really should consider cutting other high CMC cards from the precon to add these such as Gorex, the Tombshell and Gravespawn Sovereign. Gravespawn is also a reanimation effect, but is worse than Rise. Tombshell can be reduced in mana cost, but that has negative interaction with wanting to reanimate Zombies.

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Death Tyrant is an example of a budget high CMC card that's an upgrade for another five drop in the precon such as Eternal Skylord. Tyrant has excellent synergy with decayed Zombies because when they attack and are saced at end of combat then you create a 2/2 Zombie for each one. This interaction is also good with sac outlets such as Carrion Feeder to sac all your attacking Zombies in combat to create that many 2/2 Zombies which can then with Wilhelt, sac them to create 2/2 decayed Zombies and repeat the next turn with Tyrant.

Some budget lower CMC cards to consider adding:

• Pyre of Heroes: repeatable sac/tutor/cheat Zombie onto the battlefield.
• Master of Death: repeatable Zombie to sac since can return itself from your graveyard to your hand at your upkeep for 1 life.
• Necromancer's Stockpile: repeatable discard, excellent with Master of Death and good way to get Zombies into your graveyard for reanimation.
• Siege Zombie: combos with at least two other Zombies + Throne of the God-Pharaoh for lots repeatable opponent life loss.
• Apprentice Necromancer: can be repeatable reanimation source with Gisa and Geralf.
• Lazotep Plating
• Counterspell
• Arcane Denial

Some cards to consider cutting: Gorex, the Tombshell, Switcheroo, Mass Manipulation, Aetherspouts, Eternal Skylord, Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth, Gravespawn Sovereign, Shadow Kin, Vilis, Broker of Blood, Open the Graves.

Good luck with your deck.

Davinoth on

3 months ago

     DawnsRayofLight: Thank you, great suggestions!

     I am running Counterspell, so I'm not quite sure what you mean about running Stoic Rebuttal over it. I've considered cutting SR a few times for Negate, but I always end up deciding against it, as it's nearly always another Counterspell. This slot is more likely to become Disallow and eventually Force of Will. =)

     Absolutely love AEtherize! Used it a lot in standard back in the RTR block; I should definitely find a home for it here! I think I'll definitely consider Aetherspouts as well. Propaganda is really good with the land control, but I always feel like without running a whole Pillow Fort package, it's an enchantment I can't tap for mana. Same kind of feelings for Dissipation Field, despite the strength of the card.

     Manascape Refractor is an awesome suggestion that I hadn't considered! Definitely going to look to make room for it. Field and Vale, though, I feel would just slow me down more than they would be beneficial in the face of some of my stax effects. I'd be more inclined to add Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx back into the deck, I think.

     This deck honestly doesn't need more win-more cards. I used to have it very full of big value creatures like Darksteel Colossus and Sphinx of the Second Sun that I could turn up with Urza's active, which was fine - but I'd frequently find myself stuck with too many in my early hand, and was way more susceptible to being mana-screwed. At this point I'm down to one big fatty in Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur. All that being said, I am planning to eventually cut God-Pharaoh's Statue for Blightsteel Colossus haha. =P

     Metalworker would be a great pickup too, but I'd definitely be more inclined to trade for than buy, and finding someone willing to trade one is easier said than done lol

     Thanks again! =)

DawnsRayofLight on

3 months ago

Hey! This is a really fun looking deck! I'd like to make a few suggestions if that is cool:

Stoic Rebuttal: there is no reason to run this over Counterspell or really any other counter spell

AEtherize. Aetherspouts, Propaganda, and Dissipation Field are great for protection.

Strixhaven Stadium: can act as an alternate win con

Lotus Field, Lotus Vale, and Manascape Refractor can help if you are unable to keep Winter Orb untapped for your turn so you can play what you need to.

Maybe add some big bois like Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger and Blightsteel Colossus as other win cons and utilize the large amounts of mana you generate.

Metalworker: I know he is pricey but it is hilarious to Turn 2 a Kozilek, Butcher of Truth

Argy on The Pioneer Blues

5 months ago

No worries Saccox

I liked your comments.

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I took another look at all the Pioneer Instants under 5MV, to see if there is a better one than Aetherspouts

I came across an old favourite - Polymorphist's Jest

This card has gotten me out of all kinds of trouble, since M15.

I've tested with it in this deck, and it has quite a lot of flexibility.

You can nerf a Planeswalker which has turned into a Creature, you can turn opponent fliers into ground Creatures (to get lethal flying damage through), or you can prevent an opponent having enough combat damage for lethal.

As a result I am removing Aetherspouts for Polymorphist's Jest

Gotta love those 1/1 vanilla Froggies!

carpecanum on Gone Rogue

6 months ago

Bubble Matrix would allow your little guys to block big scary guys if they had to. (Ooh that went up in price. Maybe not)

You might need a couple cards to keep from being attacked. Propaganda is the obvious choice but there are many others. I see Aetherspouts there but I'd put in a couple more.

itsbuzzi on The Pioneer Blues

6 months ago

Seems like you're really into the Ensoul builds. I ran mine from Standard to Modern to Frontier for a week and now Pioneer. I think I landed on a pretty great deck here Jeskai Ensoul (PNR). Just played a mirror match against you, Game 1 was fun but quick in my favor and game 2 was fun where we kept gaining life until my creature got bigger and gained double strike from Boros Charm . Stubborn Denial does wonders against your main board removal.

I like the offset from Izzet to mono blue but you might consider Azorious for All That Glitters . You have a good mass of artifacts and Glitters can make any creature much larger than otherwise possible. Also Stubborn Denial is an amazing card in something like this. You may also like The Blackstaff of Waterdeep . It does the same as Animating Faerie for the same cost (cast and activate) but it recurring in case the target were to die and not as restrictive only targetting nontoken as opposed to noncreature like Faerie but doesn't come down with a body and is legendary.

I like Padeem, Consul of Innovation that's a cool card. I hate running 4 drops though in a deck this quick in the main which is why I run only 3. I may switch out Thopter Spy Network for Padeem though because he doesn't protect the artifact that may be on the field when he hits due to instant speed removal but he protects all the others unless he gets hit as well. Although Spy Network is harder to hit and makes a threat every turn Spy Network may be better that hurts sometimes. I don't run Whirler Rogue because I don't like the 4 drops but I can see where it shines by tapping down equipment that normally don't tap to make your guys unblockable.

The Shadowspear in the main is a sweet addition and when facing any sort of aggressive build I always side mine in. Compared to my build, however, yours seems a little slower with the enabler cards ( Ensoul Artifact , Animating Faerie , Skilled Animator being slightly more mana value than mine and the support cards you run being of 4 drop while mine run at 3 or less for the main. Adding in All That Glitters may make all the difference there and you'll have access to Settle the Wreckage in the side instead of Aetherspouts . That extra mana on the board wipe may make all the difference.

Sweet deck though I would consider taking a look at mine whenever you get the chance I have the entire deck laid out in the description and have been running this stuff for basically as long as it existed.