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|Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis (DDR)||Mythic Rare|
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Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
Planeswalker — Nissa
+1: Create a 0/1 green Plant creature token.
-2: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
-7: You gain X life and draw X cards, where X is the number of lands you control.
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Nissa, Voice of Zendikar Discussion
2 hours ago
Ah it's good to see that you have built an Atraxa, Praetors' Voice decklist, and one that is more unique than most (even mine admittedly). I use to include all the praetors in mine for the flavor as well as a bit of infect, but my Atraxa deck paints a big enough target on me at my lgs without those kind of cards as people have seen what it is capable of. I have games turn into essentially archenemy at times. I'm still undecided on the direction of the deck ultimately but it's already my most expensive edh deck. But enough talk of my list, here are some suggestions to consider:
(LANDS) Sea of Clouds in place of an Island, Morphic Pool in place of a Swamp, then cut maybe Manifold Insights for another land like Bountiful Promenade as I think your land count is a bit low. Other changes I would make would be to add an Inkmoth Nexus, and a Reliquary Tower. Inkmoth Nexus has evasion and if your goal is to win with infect you will want as much early game cards as you can to get early poison counters in. I would take out Saltcrusted Steppe for Inkmoth Nexus, and then cut Steady Progress (You already have better ways to proliferate, a number of which are repeatable unlike this one, maybe i'm wrong on this one but I think there's better cards you could have over it here) for Reliquary Tower (while this may not be relevant that often, look at how many cards Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur nets you if he sticks around and you will notice you have no way to have an unlimited hand size). And since you happen to have quite a few sources of proliferate, it might not be a bad idea to put Gavony Township in here to help your creatures out since so many on their own are quite weak.
(CREATURES) I would swap Corpse Cur for Phyrexian Swarmlord, as I don't really see many good targets for infect creatures to bring back outside of course Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. Viridian Corrupter might be another infect creature you might want to consider using, I have to say spots are looking tight for me to suggest cuts for some cards but I think for this one I would swap Putrefy for this additional infect creature.
Additionally, while I see that you aren't concerned really with +1/+1 counters I still think Champion of Lambholt might be worth consideration for helping to get infect creatures through for even as much as an outright kill. For other aggressive options, you could go the route of Blightsteel Colossus which can simply kill players (It's kind of pricey, but i'm not sure if that's a concern for you). If you were to use this card however, you would want to make sure it's protected from the likes of your Swords to Plowshares etc with Lightning Greaves, Asceticism, Whispersilk Cloak or even additionally with Conqueror's Flail which I talk about more later. Putrefax is kind of similar if even not as strong, and perhaps this kind of strategy can pay off well with the use of equipment and maybe even some pump spells if we were to take inspiration from modern/legacy infect lists?
They rely on taking usually 1-2 infect creatures and pumping them up with cards like Berserk, Become Immense, Vines of Vastwood, Invigorate, Groundswell, Blossoming Defense etc to go for a kill, and while some of these might not seem as effective here in commander, I still think a couple like Berserk and Become Immense are worth using because I already see you have Rancor here and these can help get around the fact that many infect creatures are quite weak on their own. And on that topic of infect creatures being generally frail, a few cards that you could consider using here to solve that would be Teferi's Protection, Spellskite(great for taking removal off your more important creatures), and or Heroic Intervention. A few other cards that modern infect lists make use of from time to time are Distortion Strike, Apostle's Blessing, and then of course the staple Noble Hierarch and Pendelhaven. As I said before the general gameplan with such decks is to attack with generally 1 or so infect creatures and back them up with pump spells like those and more mentioned above, and that's where Noble Hierarch and Pendelhaven (pairs well with Glistener Elf, Blighted Agent, Plague Stinger, Inkmoth Nexus and the like) give the attacker a boost to kill outright in as early as turns 2-4. A few cards that might help with this route would be Duelist's Heritage, the previously mentioned Champion of Lambholt, Spinebiter, Apostle's Blessing (can be used for offense or defense), and Slip Through Space. And I see you have a couple counterspells here, and so maybe this is foolish enough to work, but I think you should consider using Hatred here. It can be put either obviously on an infect creature that is not being blocked/can't be blocked (many good targets would be Blighted Agent, Inkmoth Nexus, Putrefax provided you added it of course) or any other evasive creature or what may not at first be obvious to be used on your commander, because ask yourself how many players early on/mid game are going to stop you from attacking them say maybe 1-2 times with Atraxa, Praetors' Voice who is a 4/4 deathtouch/flying/vigilance creature? What you can do with this is pay all of that life to simply kill someone with Atraxa and then gain all that life back :)
While maybe I fear a bit redundant similarly to Grafted Exoskeleton, Triumph of the Hordes is a card that maybe you have overlooked here. The trample can be very useful for getting damage through and I would probably want to play a card like this over Praetor's Grasp, Wargate, or Viridian Longbow possibly? I have to say that I agree with FiveEightFiveBC's observation about Grafted Exoskeleton, I think if you want to stick with equipment that is yet better, either use Sword of Feast and Famine/Sword of Light and Shadow or something like Conqueror's Flail. I could see stacking a bunch of equipment and using stuff like Hatred, Duelist's Heritage, Become Immense, Glistening Oil, Fireshrieker, Sword of Vengeance, and such just on your commander as a legitimate gameplan also with or without infect.
Lastly, similarly to my earlier suggested Gavony Township, I was curious if your opposed to the inclusion of any planeswalkers here? Because I believe Nissa, Voice of Zendikar could do well here. Others to consider would be Ajani Steadfast, and Venser, the Sojourner. You wouldn't even have to go far with this, as too much and you start to change the theme of the deck, but these few that I highlighted might be of use to you here I thought with or without the likes of Doubling Season, and all the other obvious things that you would use with planeswalkers.
I will try to think of more suggestions, but I think this is enough for now to say the least as I will let you know I spent about 75 minutes in all coming up with all of this so far I think! Let me know what you think of all of this, as I know I suggested a ton of things and not all of which did I havsuggestions on what to replace them with. On a side note, I have to say i'm a bit jealous, do you happen to actually have a specific copy of that judge promo Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite?
2 days ago
You should be able to make a walker variant, without a lot of trouble, I think keeping in cards that help your walkers ultimate like Deepglow Skate and Inexorable Tide is what you want to keep in, along with ramp and card draw, and countermagic/removal. Otherwise most of the creatures can be dropped for two main types of walkers, and a third minor type:
Type 1: The type that draws cards/makes mana/tutors. This type are along the lines of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, Dovin Baan, Tamiyo, Field Researcher, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Liliana Vess, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, Narset Transcendent, Nissa, Vital Force, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, and Tezzeret the Seeker .
Type 3 would be the type that wins the game, but most do that with the ultimate, so I will skip it.
1 week ago
After a few more games with the deck, I would like to continue making the deck more threat heavy and resilient against removal. So I made some pretty deep cuts. The cards on the chopping block are the following:
Mirrorweave - just a little too slow and not good if you are up against any removal heavy decks. Much better against decks that rely on mostly creatures, of which there are not many. Humans is the best aggro deck in the format, yet most of its creatures will have +1/+1 counters on them, so mirrorweave isn't great.
Cytoplast Root-Kin - A big mana commitment for something that will only be good with a few other creatures out. I would rather just have removal instead, or a more robust standalone threat.
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar- Gets overrun easily if you are losing, and gets hit by lightning bolts after the -2. There are other more robust cards that have a similar effect. However, it is a standalone threat against an empty board that can be hard to get rid of for control, so it may be a sideboard card.
Birds of Paradise - I don't have too many things to ramp into at 3 mana, so I think I am better off running something that I want to draw late game, like Oath of Nissa, which can give me a land early, or a creature late, and isn't just going to die to removal like birds does. I might run 1 more land, and 3 oaths.
Hangarback Walker - not an aggressive card. Even if it does dodge removal, no one cares about it enough to kill it. Mostly blocks, and there's not a ton of blocking in modern.
Abzan Ascendancy - a replacement for nissa that is a bit more robust, and better against the decks with a mix of creatures and removal. It triggers bloodhall ooze twice, and works well with the graft stuff. It also triggers when my ballista or simic initiate runs out of counters.
Dromoka's Command - This deck needs some more removal, but I think it's also important to run cards that are synergystic with the deck. This card fills that role fairly well, especially with a hardened scales out. However, it is dependent on having a creature out, and can be interrupted by removal from the opponent, which is a little iffy.
Oath of Nissa - Our replacement for birds of paradise to act as our 22-24th lands. It also gets most of the stuff in the deck, which means it's a really good late game drop vs. the birds. It also gets us to our key cards like ballista and constrictor more consistently. Plus it sticks around as a green permanent for bloodhall ooze! That's way more important than you might think.
Bloodbraid Elf - I had this card on my list for a while and only recently considered it. It's a powerhouse with a lot of the cards in this deck, since the cascaded spell gets cast first. For instance, anafenza enters the battlefield, and then immediately triggers on Bloodbraid, which can make it a huge hasty creature with a hardened scales out. Same with simic initiate, dromokas command, and plaxcaster. The rest of the time it just gives you so much value. The only card that doesn't work with it is walking ballista, but even that can trigger the anafenza and ascendancy, so it's not horrible.
Plaxcaster Frogling - Another grafter that can protect itself and other creatures if you untap. Being able to protect your big bloodhall oozes from fatal push and other nonsense is going to make a lot of decks not be able to keep up. I admit it's probably the weakest card in the deck, but I want to try it out anyways. Grafting has proven to be very good, even on a lowly simic initiate. Other options for this slot are Trinket Mage (for the 5th and 6th copies of ballista), Predator Ooze, Ajani, Caller of the Pride, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Liliana, the Last Hope (mostly for recurring stuff), and Jadelight Ranger
3 weeks ago
@DeviousPenguin666 well to be more accurate you can generate 4 mana and then 3 mana not 7 all at once. You acheve this by playing Arbor Elf on turn 1. On your next turn if you haven't missed a land drop you can enchant an untapped land with Utopia Sprawl, now if your elf has survived you can tap and untap that land to generate 4 mana in total. Using your 4 mana to cast Garruk Wildspeaker activating his first ability to untap your two land. Because one of your lands now taps for double you would now have three mana available. A turn 2 Garruk followed up by Tireless Tracker or Nissa, Voice of Zendikar is usually a pretty hard to deal with start. Alternatively dropping a planeswalker and a Rain of Tears turn 2 might actual make some tears rain. ;)
4 weeks ago
Sorry, unfortunately I don't have any fetches or Nissa, Voice of Zendikar or Become Immense, but I do have other green themed pump cards like Blossoming Defense, Giant Growth, Groundswell, Might of Old Krosa, Might of the Masses, Mortal's Resolve, Predator's Strike, Prey's Vengeance, Ranger's Guile, Strength in Numbers, Swell of Growth, and Titanic Growth.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Hey there. I know you said not to comment on the mana base but honestly it looks pretty alright. The only three changes I would make are to switch the Island for a second Forest. Green is more important and prominent in the deck so having a land that can only be blue kinda sucks. The second and third changes are to take out the Flooded Strand and some other land, probably a Botanical Sanctum. Infect plays all low cmc cards so 19 lands is optimal. I would cut Flooded Strand because you only want to play fetches that can get green. Anyway sorry for the mana base rant I know you said not to. In the rest of the mainboard everything seems good. If you take out 2 lands, I would add 2 Become Immense or a Become Immense and a Spell Pierce. Other than that everything is good. In the sideboard I would replace the Fracturing Gust and Damping Sphere. Fracturing Gust is far to expensive. It can only be played on like turn 4-5 with a Noble Hierarch and that requires tapping out. Its just too much mana. Damping Sphere does more harm than good. You're usually gonna win against Tron so the first ability is useless and Grafdigger's Cage is better against Storm because it doesn't harm you. I would replace these two with a Spell Pierce and a Nissa, Voice of Zendikar. Nissa is great against edict effects like Liliana of the Veil and aggro decks like Humans where you can just get a free blocker every turn. Anyway, other than those the deck seems solid. I currently play a Sultai Infect deck, which I will link below. Best of luck to you and your Phyrexian endeavors!
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1 month ago
I realize some of these mess with your budget but they may be worth negotiating in and I'm not sure if you might have copies of some of them.
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- Prime Speaker Zegana
- Thunderfoot Baloth
- Overwhelming Stampede
- Cultivator of Blades
- Realm Seekers
- Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
- Managorger Hydra
- Primeval Protector
- Darksteel Mutation
- Wrath of God
- Winds of Qal Sisma
- Shamanic Revelation
- Primeval Bounty