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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Alchemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Brawl | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pioneer | Legal |
| Pre-release | Legal |
| Standard | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Fateful Absence
Instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Its controller investigates. (They create a colourless Clue artifact token with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
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Guerric on
[Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*
1 day ago
1) Harsh Mercy OUT Darksteel Mutation IN
Harsh Mercy seemed like it would be amazing, but I find I don't often need to wipe the board in this deck, and usually when I considered using Mercy it was to deal with one or two problematic creatures. Unfortunately, they get to pick what they keep and can always keep something, so this turns out to be not as good as we'd think, particularly as we don't really need it to clear blockers since we fly. More targeted removal seems to be what the doctor ordered, and Darksteel Mutation can sideline problematic combo commanders. I may switch this to Fateful Absence eventually, but for now we'll go for the more durable if less flexible answer.
2) Serra Paragon IN Baneslayer Angel OUT
It should be fairly clear why this card belongs in, as it is amazing and adds on the recursion in the deck for the low cost of 4 mana. We can get her going as early as turn three! Baneslayer is iconic and fun to play, but it is higher on our curve and has never been too synergistic, so it gets the axe.
3) Karmic Guide OUT Emeria Angel IN
I was always nervous about the cmc on the latter, but others have assured me it works great, and this update is lowering my curve across the board so I can afford to raise it two for a far superior version of Guide. Emeria Angel lets us get back whatever we want turn after turn, and is a must answer value piece that can do work in the late game.
4) Angel of Invention OUT Steel Seraph IN
This change is more experimental, but the latter costs three when we cast it here, which lowers our curve by two. Its ability is really relevant and synergistic, and allows us to have lifelink the turn we cast this. I do like what I can cutting though as anthems are good here, so there is a chance I go back or re-add it down the road, but for now we are cutting the curve.
5) Sigarda's Splendor OUT Smuggler's Share IN
Smuggler's Share will no doubt be good in this deck and we need to cut a draw piece for it. I agonized on what to cut as Splendor is better in the early game and less likely to be removed, but is bad late game when it won't give us value. Vanquisher's Banner is amazing in the late game but is a bit more of a high risk, high reward sort of card here. I opted to keep banner because I feel like we need more of the latter category than the former. We'll see how it goes, though others have assured me that banner works well in the late game, and it has indeed done that where I've used it in other decks.
6) Ghost Quarter OUT Mutavault IN
While I like having the extra answer to lands, we can't afford too many colorless lands in this deck and I think this is the least needed as we also have Generous Gift. Mutavault is great obviously for the combo with The Book of Exalted Deeds, but it is also a great way to upper our counters with spare mana. If we activate it on our turn before casting any angels we'll get extra counters on said angels when they ETB. This utility can definitely make a difference over the course of the game even without making it into a Platinum Angel land, and the latter is amazing.
7) Eerie Interlude OUT Guardian of Faith IN
Interlude was always bad because you lose all of your counters on the blink since Giada would re-enter at the same time as them. Guardian is awesome because by phasing out they never leave the battlefield and thus keep all of their counters. Of course if you have Teferi's Protection do feel free to play that in place of either this or Cosmic Intervention
Guerric on
[Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*
4 days ago
Thanks for the input! I think I'll probably cut Sigarda's Splendor after all. I haven't seen Vanquisher's Banner be bad yet, so I'll keep monitoring things but it's probably better to go for the high ceiling low floor type cards when we get above 3 cmc. As for Darksteel Mutation, the key is simply having a removal place to take the spot of Harsh Mercy. I've found that several times when I had it in hand I didn't need a board wipe but did want a targeted removal. That card wasn't good for that since each player gets to pick a creature type to keep, so it went. Mutation is nice since it can sideline a commander at least temporarily, though there are ways around it. Another good option is Fateful Absence, which simply destroys a creature or planeswalker, but which can be done at instant speed. Either way, it doesn't have to be integral, we just want to up the efficient removal with this slot.
As for other cards, my thoughts are as follows. Linvala, Keeper of Silence is the easiest because this card has saved my bacon more times than I can recount, and has been a true all star for me. I expected her to be fine but she's been a real star. Angel of Jubilation is also solid. We're always happy to have the anthem and when her second ability comes into play we'll be very glad we have her as she shuts down some of the more degenerate shenanigans in the format. Search for Glory is another easy one, and is a very underrated card. We have a lot of amazing legends here, and she can tutor all of them. One which I have used multiple times is tutoring Sephara, Sky's Blade and then immediately playing her for .
Together Forever is a board protection piece and the theory on it is good. I haven't seen it as often as other cards, but when I have I've played it, used it, and been glad to have it. It doesn't stop our pieces from being destroyed per se, but it does preserve the cards themselves for the cheap cost of per card. The biggest danger in this deck is getting blown out with an empty hand, and this ensures that we can at least have a hand if we play carefully. It is also good in less dramatic situations though. When I've enjoyed it most is when I've used it to save Sephara, Sky's Blade only to immediately replay her for the next turn, something that vexed my opponents greatly. Now if I were putting Avacyn in I could consider cutting this card since it is in the same category (sort of), but I've found it to be good and plan on keeping it for the time being. Starnheim Unleashed in this deck is the sort of token splashy card that allows for a big play that can put us over the top. It's not critical to the function of the deck, but where it is good it is generally pretty great. The ceiling is to play it with Crashing Drawbridge on the board or to flash it out on the end step right before our turn with Emergence Zone, where the element of surprise can take over the game. That being said, if you wanted to slot Luminarch Ascension in, something I have thought about doing, it could go in place of this as it has a similar function in terms of being able to pump out a massive amount of angel tokens. Luminarch Ascension has added value as a permanent since it can generate angels repeatedly for small mana. It'd downside is that there is no element of surprise. Our opponents will instantly know the threat it poses and will likely work to remove it as quickly as they can, possibly before we get to activate it at all. I think both cards are good and can justify a place in the deck, though I wouldn't say either is essential.
Angel of Condemnation is a card that I have pondered cutting and haven't really used too much in my playtesting so far, though it's certainly not bad and the theory on it is good. It's one of those cards with a lot of utility. On the one hand it is a removal piece, and a think we can use extra mana on at instant speed to repeatedly disrupt our opponents. Often we shouldn't need to exert him. Just blinking our opponents degenerate piece on their upkeep will generally keep them from exploiting it during their turn. Of course if we do exert him we can sideline a piece until an opponent removes him, and usually only the opponent who owns the degenerate piece will be willing to do so. This card can also be useful on our own stuff. We'll be happy to blink Sanctuary Warden for an extra card sometimes, or maybe blink any of our creatures to gain life off of Bishop of Wings and make an angel token off of Resplendent Angel or put some counters on stuff with Archangel of Thune. I've played enough blink decks to know that we tend to find all sorts of synergies like this if we have a card like this one in the deck and are looking for them.
Needless to say I am pretty happy with the list in general, and most of the cards I haven't liked I've cut. This doesn't mean we can't cut these or any other cards, but the threshold of a new card needs to be high for me to consider it.
DreadKhan on
Need help pls (too many cards)
2 months ago
If you're hoping to play vs fairly competitive decks in Modern, I wouldn't run many (ideally none) 5, 6 or 7 drops, even 4 drops are slow and can clog up your hand. In a format like Modern, you want to be doing things in the most efficient manner possible, meaning you want low to the ground spells. If you have more than 1 spell of MV > 4 in your opening hand, it's very hard to make that hand a keep! Also, effects that only gain you life are terrible in practice. Blockers are usually not helpful, they end up too small/ineffective, so I'd hesitate before running cards with Defender in Modern unless you have a big payoff for them. Bodies that aren't big for their MV that lack abilities other than life gain often fail to progress the game, keep in mind that Tarmogoyf has lost huge amounts of popularity, and that could be a 3/4 or better for 2 mana. I feel like Ondu War Cleric is not a very impactful card, the 2/2 body isn't very big and the ability does very little. Tine Shrike seems like a strange inclusion, it's not a bad card in the right deck I suppose, but in this one it's clunky at 4 mana and Infect doesn't 'stack' with regular damage, so you could get the opponent to 1 life, and be stuck with only Shrike and need to deal 10 more damage to kill them. Either run lots of infect or probably skip it. Auras are generally not good cards, it's too easy for your opponent to 2 for 1 you by removing the creature. 4 mana for an aura is not where you need to be in Modern. Angelic Gift is probably more fine, since it replaces itself and Flying is a useful ability to have.
Smite the Monstrous feels awful beyond words in a format where people run stuff like Path to Exile, Generous Gift and maybe Fateful Absence in mono-White, 4 mana to have situational removal that only can hit creatures feels pretty bad.
If you want a low to the ground option to trigger lifegain and deal damage, Healer's Hawk is a nice flying lifelink 1 drop.
If you find it hard to cut cards, I think Yorion, Sky Nomad is Modern legal still, and requires you to use an oversize deck of 80 cards, and it's a fairly beefy flyer you always have access to if you need it, which definitely isn't a bad thing.
Necramus on
Queza, the Queefer
2 months ago
Okay. So, I think you should really lean into the control/combo shell. This deck could use combos like Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood, with some added redundancy in the forms of Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose and Marauding Blight-Priest, or Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion to close out the game. In order to accomplish this, I think you should cut a ton of the creatures and really lean into board wipes, control spells, and resource denial.
Things like:
You could also do cute stuff like Phyrexian Unlife + Solemnity, giving yourself time to wipe the board again or go for the win with Peer into the Abyss. You should also consider taking a look at your mana base.
I'd suggest going for some fetches, checks, and shocks like:
You also have way too many plains right now. Even before you get the lands I just named, you should cut 6 Plains for 4 Swamp and 2 Island.
I know I've given you a lot of suggestions. I think if you tried putting a list together with all the cards I named, plus some of the bangers from your current list and you'd have a badass deck! Don't worry about trying to do all that right now, though. See which look most appealing/are in your price range and add those first. A lot of these should be long term goals!
Don't tell Rett I gave you so many suggestions XD
-Blake
DawnsRayofLight on
But, it's no sacrifice No sacrifice
2 months ago
With your mana curve being so low, 38 lands seems like WAAAAYYYYY too much. I think you can get away with 33. Killing Wave is really good for suicide/aristocrats lists. Serra Ascendant could be really strong. It would also be good to consider removal, since you have some of the best colors for it:
Damn (just noticed you had it but still good to note it should stay)
Damnation (might as well run board wipes)
Westvale Abbey Flip is another good sac outlet, maybe consider some more token generators like the various X token spells like Secure the Wastes and the like to help give more fodder for the large sac outs.
multimedia on
Bloody Box Social
3 months ago
Hey, I'm not familiar with MTG Arena, but is it difficult to get 4x of a card? I ask because you're entire deck minus lands is 1x and 2x of cards which is not good for consistency. Playing 4x of a card means you'll have more chances to draw it in a game where as if all cards are 1x then you may never draw that card in a game.
The color pie shows you need an equal amount of black, red and white color sources and that's not really doable with a 15 basic land three color mana base. Some advice is play Rakdos Vampires and only splash white with dual lands as well as 4x Secluded Courtyard for a few cards? Other than the dual lands the rest of your deck is low budget because of this I'll give lower budget card suggestions.
When you play tribal you really want a reason to be in the tribe. For Vampires there's only two cards here that are tribal, Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip and Vampires' Vengeance. Edgar is legendary meaning you can't have more than one of him in your control which sucks since he's a Vamp lord. Other than Edgar and Vengeance there's really no reason to be playing all Vamps and Vengeance is more of a sideboard card against aggro opponents then main deck.
4x Vampire Socialite can be a reason to play Vamps because being aggressive with Vamps then makes Vamps bigger when Socialite enters the battlefield or other Vamps after Socialite. Being aggressive with Vamps to take advantage of Socialite means playing more of one drop and two drop Vamps. Bloodtithe Harvester is 3/2 two drop making it a good attacker and Vamp to make bigger. Can also be creature removal if you need that.
Florian, Voldaren Scion has first strike as well as can be repeatable card advantage when you're aggressive with Vamps. He's good and can trigger the turn you play him if you cast him before you attack. Even though he's legendary you want to consistently cast him turn three, for that reason I would play 4x of him. Plenty of ways to discard other copies of Florian for value.
Socialite, Harvester and Florian is a nice trio of Rakdos Vamps. Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip is a flying two drop Vamp who can be repeatable source of Blood and Falkenrath Pit Fighter can be an aggressive one drop Vamp who can be saced later if not useful to draw.
Example Vamp core for budget tribal Vamps:
- 4x Falkenrath Pit Fighter
- 4x Vampire Socialite
- 4x Bloodtithe Harvester
- 4x Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip
- 4x Florian, Voldaren Scion
Next is Vamp support and Welcoming Vampire can be repeatable draw from a flying Vamp, reason to splash white. Being rare and expensive price might be difficult to get more of Welcoming. If you can afford more than add more. Nighthawk Scavenger has flying and other keywords making it a nice Vamp to make bigger, but it's power relies on your opponent's graveyard making it a better sideboard Vamp when you know what your opponent is playing.
Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip can be top of the curve Vamp and a reason to splash white, but Edgar at the top means that you don't need white in the early turns of the game which is helpful to cast black and red Vamps.
- 1x Nighthawk Scavenger: more in sideboard.
- 1x Welcoming Vampire
- 2x Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip
Example of Mardu with heavy Rakdos Vamp base:
- 4x Falkenrath Pit Fighter
- 4x Vampire Socialite
- 4x Bloodtithe Harvester
- 4x Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip
- 4x Florian, Voldaren Scion
- 1x Nighthawk Scavenger
- 1x Welcoming Vampire
- 2x Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip
Deadly Dispute is a good card in Standard especially when you're playing little creatures and Blood tokens. Infernal Grasp is more unconditional instant creature removal and being black is easier to cast then white removal.
- 4x Deadly Dispute
- 3x Infernal Grasp
- 2x Fateful Absence
Dispute, Florian, Welcoming, Fighter and Blood is a lot of main deck draw which can really help gameplay. This example needs red or black mana in the early turns for Vamps making 4x Secluded Courtyard very helpful because it enters the battlefield untapped and can also cast white Vamps.
- 5x Swamp
- 4x Mountain
- 1x Plains
- 4x Secluded Courtyard
- 3x Haunted Ridge
- 3x Shattered Sanctum
- 3x Sundown Pass
Apollo_Paladin on
Sacrifice Cleric
3 months ago
Overall nice build! +1
It's really nice to see someone else playing on Arena not caught up with just Netdecking.
One thing I'll say is that, at a glance, this looks a bit light on good removal. I think a few Vanishing Verse in place of Invoke the Divine might suit you a bit better (less mana too).
I get that invoke the Divine is lifegain as well, but if that's your primary concern then I'd go with Light of Hope since it's much less mana to cast (albeit you can't destroy AND gain -- I don't think you lose out on too much here). 3 mana is an awfully high cost for a one-time effect that isn't just cripplingly good in a wide variety of situations in my opinion.
If you're good with giving up the lifegain aspect & Instant-speed cast, but want to keep both artifact & enchantment hate (Vanishing Verse pretty much sucks against most relevant Artifacts), maybe take a look at Revoke Existence since exile is preferable to destroy, and it similarly saves you 1 mana.
Black/White is just crushingly good at control/removal; your Fateful Absences, Vanishing Verses (already mentioned) -- even stuff like Declaration in Stone if you're willing to give up Instant speed for extra potential power.
If it were me, at the very least, I'd sideboard some of the above-mentioned options and play around with them in Best-of-3 matches. Figure out what the most common annoying (or devastating) thing opponents regularly do to you & structure some removal around that.
In any case, cool assortment you've got here! I like it.
lhetrick13 on
Modern Selesnya Tribal Cat
4 months ago
GabrielHK97 - Ohhh! The lies and Deceit! Calling it a token deck when it is not! Heresy!!!
Whenever you get around to dropping your version of cat tokens, let me know! Always fun to talk shop and see how others approach the same problem.
Given that disclaimer that this is more a cat tribal aggro, it makes a lot more sense now to keep Wild Nacatl over Sacred Cat. You are right that getting her pumped to a 3/3 on turn 2 and potentially a 5/4 on turn 3 is potent.
Taxing Cats huh? Interesting...I personally have never run Ghostly Prison or any of the similar cards as I tend to enjoy aggro more than mid or late decks but I can say if you do not have enchantment/artifact removal, it is super annoying as you just can not do much then unless you have a BIG creature with trample.
Let me know what you think of Fateful Absence in exchange for Path to Exile...I am also experimenting with the removal spells and find each somewhat situational considering their pros/cons but just can not make up my mind as to which is generally the less situational.
Regarding the lands, you are not wrong that the 2.31 average CMC is a little high for aggro so some extra lands are warranted. I got tired of using other peoples tools for calculating how many lands to include and just did the math to calculate the probabilities of getting X lands in an opening hand of 7 with Y cards in a deck when you have Z lands in the deck. Also considered the probability of drawing 0-3 lands in the first three draws. The logic being I wanted the optimize the probability of getting ~3 lands in an opening hand and also optimize the probability of not just drawing lands once the game started...In general, it has worked but it is still just probabilities so there are still games where I can mulligan 3 times and still not see a land and others where I draw seven cards and only draw lands or vice versa. Got to love it, lol!
Ya, trust me...you only need like 1-2 copies of Esika's Chariot but it is pretty awesome. I run a single copy in my cat token deck and it is great to drop it with at Anointed Procession in play for 4 2/2 cats. That is a bit nicer than Anointed Procession + Leonin Warleader as Leonin Warleader has to attack to get those tokens out. the chariot just needs to come into play. Very nice.
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