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Whenever a nontoken creature you control dies (is put into the graveyard from the battlefield), put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard. Then return a creature card with lesser converted mana cost than the creature that died from your graveyard to your hand.
, Sacrifice Death's Oasis: You gain life equal to the greatest converted mana cost among creatures you control.
2 months ago
Check out - Lurrus of the Dream-Den, Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest, Tergrid, God of Fright Flip, Moldervine Reclamation, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Greater Good, Death's Oasis, Tortured Existence, Aetherworks Marvel, Ayara, First of Locthwain, Bag of Devouring, Bushmeat Poacher, Felidar Retreat, Abzan Ascendancy, Hidden Stockpile, Awakening Zone, Crawling Infestation
For sure put this in: Karador, Ghost Chieftain
Also, some card abilities like Dredge, Flashback, and Persist would fit
4 months ago
Red05 - I would say it needs "more" self-mill not in the sense that more cards should self-mill, but the cards you include should each mill for more. Bang for card buck mill-wise.
It feels like the aim of this deck is to get the graveyard as full of some juicy keywords as quickly as possible, then let the beatdown commence with whatever creatures are on board after a Kathril play. The self-mill you have is somewhat limited or can't be played until later turns when you could already be falling behind. Dakmor Salvage is only good when you can consistently send it back to grave, Splinterfright just dies if you have no creatures in grave already, Stitcher's Supplier only mills 3 until your opponent decides to kill it, Deadbridge Chant and See the Unwritten require 6 mana which can take time, etc...
Pair that with the fact that there's only ~17 decent keyword providers at your disposal, the odds of ripping the several that you'll want to start with is low without more consistent mill. Some back-of-the-napkin math shows that even if you mill yourself for 6 cards there's still a ~1/3 chance that NONE of those creatures even get milled, let alone only milling some of the more tame keywords like flying or hexproof which by themselves probably won't win you any games.
Therefore, it feels like having some low-cost, high-yield self-mill options would be extremely valuable - the kind of thing where when you pull it in your opening hand or turn 2 you know you can get the ball rolling. You already have Nyx Weaver, Skull Prophet, World Shaper, and Death's Oasis which fits that bill, and having a couple more cards like those would add a lot more consistency. Mesmeric Orb (though a bit expensive) is reliable and even works on your opponents. As I mentioned before, dredge cards would be an especially nice conclusion since it means self-mill can lead you to more self mill when you don't need card draw. My personal favorite is probably Shambling Shell since it can sac itself turn after turn if you have just 3 mana and are desperate for grave fuel.
After messing around with a version of my own and trying some stuff out, easy discard outlets could also be a good inclusion in case you rip your meaty keyword cards into your hand and can't play them. Your Greenseeker fits nicely there, and Lotleth Troll can do the same but turning himself into more of a threat in the process.
9 months ago
1 year ago
The point of Carnival of Souls was to be partnered with Essence Warden to create infinite Black mana (i.e. Saving you from it's death effect). It is def pretty jank though. Better in thought that on the board! Haha.
Death's Oasis in case people continuously go after Colfenor!
1 year ago
Firstly, I apologize for the late response. I got caught up a bit with schoolwork at the end of last week. I typed out my response a couple of days ago, but I must've managed to only click Preview and not Post. That makes me feel a little silly, hahaha.
I love Geier Reach Sanitarium as a way to discard impactful creatures that have ended up in your hand. On the topic of cards like Library and Arena, there's also other persistent sources of card draw, like Erebos, God of the Dead, Greed and Arguel's Blood Fast Flip.
Doom Whisperer is really great in this deck. Dumping cards in the yard as you please and its control over those cards really greases the gears of our machine. Regarding Elder Gargaroth, I must admit that I'm primarily running it for the keywords, so I'd definitely recommend getting a Doom Whisperer before the Gargaroth.
I find Acidic Slime to be an all star in my grindy midrange decks running green. There's always a problematic permanent it can get rid of, and in this deck in particular, the Deathtouch is also pretty nice. Angel of Finality is a card I am a little iffy on, to be honest. That being said, I like that it provides some graveyard hate outside of the common Bojuka Bog.
It is true that this deck is lacking in board wipes. The only card that comes close to that is Living Death, which can be unreliable. So far, this hasn't posed too big of a problem. I can usually get some of the most important cards in my graveyard by turn 4-5 and from there threaten with a big lifelink swing. That being said, I should probably try to fit in at least a Toxic Deluge or something.
Regarding utility spells that incidentally get things in your yard, I'll list the first cards that come to mind from the top of my head.
One of the cards that I've wanted to try but haven't found room for is Death's Oasis. The thing keeping it from being super good imo is that you're forced to return a creature to your hand, which can screw you up if you're stacking your graveyard for Kathril. Other cards that are close to being run is Splinterfright and Stitcher's Supplier
1 year ago
You mentioned Death's Oasis under performing. Have looked at Skull Prophet? It can be a mana dork early, or help you self-mill when you don't need the mana. You also seem light on card draw and ramp, which really helps a deck run more smoothly.
I love your theme here. +1.
1 year ago
Well met, young callant! I have some suggestions with your names on them. Such a strange coincidence.
Jests aside, let's do this.
So, I see budget, I see counters, I see mill. Let's start with mill.
One does not simply play a graveyard deck bereft of the following: Satyr Wayfinder finds some lands whiles stocking the bin. Grisly Salvage is morbidly efficient, finding creatures and lands. Winding Way does the forenamed, whereupon it sometimes betrays you (Don't look it in the eye). Grapple with the Past brings stuff back and loads the bin. It feels great. Funeral Rites is fine and straight-forward. Ransack the Lab is cheap whiles bearing efficacy.
If you're feeling betaken to your graveyard chicanery, Perpetual Timepiece does an absolutely lovely job of stocking the bin.
Ahem. DEATH'S OASIS?! It mills, it fills, and eventually it kills. Moreover, it is three to cast, thusly on-theme.
Okay, now counters!
Unto the intrinsic:
Let us protect thine commander! Selfless Spirit is out of budget yet amazing, Saffi Eriksdotter is of a similar role, and Dauntless Bodyguard, along withal Selfless Savior, are budget options for choice.
There are two routes in commander decks (when playing fairly); a low-curve with a foison of card draw or a higher curve with less card draw. Low-curve = more card draw. I'd add Painful Truths, Sign in Blood, Funeral Rites, Ransack the Lab
I am biased, but I put Once Upon a Time in literally all of my green decks. 'Tis most lovely each time I cast the gest.
And therefrom is the finis of my comment. Fare thee well and may fortune betide!
2 years ago
Yes, you can do that.
If something is meant to work differently between tokens and nontokens, it will specifically say so (like Death's Oasis, Intangible Virtue, etc.). Konda's Banner doesn't say it can only be equipped to non-token creatures, or that its abilities only work with nontoken creatures, so that means it will work with token creatures just fine.