Jace, Memory Adept

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[+1]: Draw a card. Target player puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

[0]: Target player puts the top ten cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

[-7]: Any number of target players each draw twenty cards.

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Jace, Memory Adept Discussion

denijsx90 on U / B Mill ( Pls help :) )

4 days ago

Looks pretty good actually. I'd put in a few more control cards..

But definitely some draw cards. Thought Scour or Visions of Beyond are good choices.

Hedron Crab could be handled better. I recommend Polluted Delta, Evolving Wilds, Dimir Aqueduct, or some Oboro, Palace in the Clouds. These will let you make 'landfall' every turn or even DOUBLE 'landfall'!

Traumatize is stupid. If you've been milling them right, then by turn 5 they don't have much of a deck left to cut in half. At that point Jace, Memory Adept is more powerful.

If you're feeling fancy Mindcrank can make your attacks turn into mill.. It's not super efficient but when combined with Duskmantle Guildmage you get an infinite mill/kill combo. Duskmantle Guildmage + Jace, Memory Adept is another instant kill.. Sure you've gotta spend six mana but who cares?

You can save a little deck space by replacing Artful Dodge with Rogue's Passage? I'm actually a big fan of Essence Harvest. Heals you, you still get to attack, and it deals direct damage. It's a sexy card.

I'm a huge fan of mill so please check out my deck Arkham as well as my many other mill decks

denijsx90 on Esper Mill

1 week ago

Hi there, I commented on your American infinite mill deck. That one was neat! This one is neat too, it's got a strong control shell with a slow mill center.. It just feels a little light on the actual milling.

Mind Grind is an interesting card but from my experience Mind Funeral is the superior version.

I used to run Traumatize but... Sigh.. I dunno, it's just not as powerful as I thought it would be.

They start with 60 cards, draw seven and by turn 5 they've drawn 12 cards minimum. If you've hit them with one Breaking and two Tome Scour... Minimum... Then by turn 5 they'll have 30 cards left in their deck. Which means Traumatize only kills 15 cards.. Jace, Memory Adept, as you know, is a more useful card that crushes souls on every turn.

So I wonder if those Traumatize wouldn't be better served as cheaper, more powerful mill spells? If you really do love Traumatize though, then you'll be needing to at least consider Haunting Echoes..

Hedron Crab would get some decent mill in, a single crab can kill 12 cards by turn 5. Plus, with your control shell, you'll be able to mill even when you don't have the mana to play actual mill spells.

If that interests you, I recommend Mesmeric Orb.. It looks double edged, I know.. But you'll win because your deck is designed to make them run out of cards first.

Breaking / Entering is an amazing card but if you've got the cash, you can't go wrong with Glimpse the Unthinkable

And last thing, I promise.. By turn five your hand gets a little thin, my personal favorite solution to this problem is Visions of Beyond but another good choice is Thought Scour.

I am a huge fan of mill decks so please drop by and check out my stuff! I recommend Arkham to start.

Valcyon on such discard... much combo... wow

1 week ago

@spacetear You're absolutely right, I'm not very familiar with the khans set yet so I didn't realize I had that option. Thanks!

@CharlesMandore I'm not aiming at a mill win with this deck, so Jace, Memory Adept wouldn't work here. (Note that 'discard' means to put a card in the graveyard from the hand, and not from the deck). Jace Beleren's first ability would como nicely with Notion Thief, but I already have Master of the Feast, wich has almost the same effect.

xFortune on Budget Dimir Mill

1 week ago

Thanks for the input!

I agree that I need a couple of just straight mill cards, I'll be working a couple in when I get my next bunch of cards in the mail.

Notion Thief prevents the other player from really doing anything once the hand discarding starts - they're stuck top-decking for the rest of the game or until they get rid of it, and it also pushes the self-mill with Whispering Madness/Jace's Archivist into overdrive, as I'm doubling my hand size every time, so my Psychic Spiral gets big really quickly.

Invisible Stalker is there to safely proc the cipher cards every turn. If you have any better alternatives, that'd be sweet, but hexproof and unblockable for 2 mana is exactly what I need.

Agreed on the Jace's Phantasm, I already planned on bumping those up to a 4-of. Also agreed on the Syncopate, I'll be working some other spells in there. I don't think I need as many counter spells now that I've swapped in the Invisible Stalkers - removal isn't a huge threat anymore, so I might just drop them to make room for more mill spells.

Jace Beleren and Jace, Memory Adept are both pretty situational in this deck, and I don't think I'll end up including either of them. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is really good - but it also pushes the cost of my deck up by more than 50%.

CharlesMandore on such discard... much combo... wow

1 week ago

If you're not putting it in, what are your thoughts on Jace, Memory Adept? Heck, there's also Jace Beleren. I run both in my mill deck.. which I have to post eventually.

chumpstick on Budget Dimir Mill

1 week ago

I would add some quick mill cards just to get some leverage on your opponent before you start discarding left and right. Mind Sculpt and Tome Scour are great. Notion Thief seems pretty expensive for it's situational effect, Invisible Stalker is also a weak card in my opinion. 4x Jace's Phantasm for sure, that card is too strong not to have 4. Syncopate is a fancy counter, I prefer Mana Leak or Dissolve over it; maybe 2 or 1 syncopates are all you need. As for your Maybeboard, Phenax, God of Deception is for a whole different style of mill and wouldn't fit this deck. Jace Beleren doesn't benefit this deck as well. I would really recommend Jace, Memory Adept and Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver. Wight of Precinct Six x4 would be really good as well. +1 from me, love the engine of the deck - that combo is brutal. Good luck!

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Color(s) Blue
Cost 3UU
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Format Legality
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Modern Legal
Duel Commander Legal

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Magic 2014
Magic 2013 Mythic Rare
2012 Core Set Mythic Rare

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