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Jace, Memory Adept
Planeswalker — Jace
+1: Draw a card. Target player puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
0: Target player puts the top ten cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
-7: Any number of target players each draw twenty cards.
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Jace, Memory Adept Discussion
1 day ago
Hi! I'm ChiefBell, and I help to carry out some admin duties around the site and spend an awful lot of time looking at Modern decks and the Modern forum.
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Now onto more specific feedback for your deck!
I just tested this deck 10 times to see what kinds of turn 1-3 plays it makes and unfortunately found myself being mana screwed in 7 of those 10 playtests. With 12 lands you have a 1 in 5 chance of a land being drawn (12 cards out of 60 equals 1 in 5), which means that in your opening hand you're most likely to find a single land and then your next land won't come until the tenth card roughly, which is turn 4 potentially. Remember that Mox Opal can only help a little here because it's legendary so you can't have multiple out on the field and it doesn't do anything without metalcraft anyway. Similarly Lotus Bloom isn't the most helpful because it's not on the field until it comes off suspend and therefore doesn't interact with Mox Opal and also won't be giving you mana until T4 at least. So there are pretty large issues there.
On the other side of the deck you have some really expensive (from a mana perspective) cards like Cryptic Command or Jace, Memory Adept that will be super difficult to cast without exceeding amounts of luck.
I wonder if you've seen this version of the Laboratory Maniac deck. It's called "oops, all spells" and wins with balustrade spy by not playing any lands at all. It's a bit complicated but if you google it and dig around a bit you can find a lot of information. It's essentially about Bridge from Below making zombies that can be tapped to cast Endless Obedience to reanimate Laboratory Maniac and any creature that draws cards to let you win. Kind of cool. Prized Amalgam will have made the deck better too.
3 days ago
Insert copy/pasted lists for ya!
Azami, Lady of Scrolls
Bident of Thassa
Bringer of the Blue Dawn
Higure, the Still Wind
Honden of Seeing Winds
Jace, Memory Adept
Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets
Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
Keeper of the Mind
Lu Su, Wu Advisor
Lu Xun, Scholar General
Sea Gate Loremaster
Soul of Ravnica
Teferi, Temporal Archmage
Thada Adel, Acquisitor
Thopter Spy Network
Trail of Evidence
Book of Rass
Mask of Memory
Scroll of Origins
Slate of Ancestry
Staff of Nin
Sword of Fire and Ice
Tapestry of the Ages
Tower of Fortunes
Well of Discovery
Well of Lost Dreams
And if you want burst draw, let me know. That's a whole another list
3 days ago
Trust me, From Under the Floorboards will not be in for long as you further test your setup. Gravecrawler, Prized Amalgam, Haunted Dead and Voldaren Pariah Flip are all cards i would play over / rather discard then From Under the Floorboards. There is a good reason why it doesn't see any competitive play in Standard, and Modern is even more powerful than that. Traditionally, Black is much stronger in Zombie decks than Blue, so there will be a strong Black bias. Which is why you usually want as many Black sources of Mana as possible in a Zombie shell, to pay for Relentless Dead or Geralf's Messenger. Reliquary Tower is therefore not ideal, you won't get to maximum hand size anyways. And if you do, it's actually better to be able to dump some Amalgams/Crawlers/Haunted Dead for free. I also suggest playing a maximum of 3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as you can only have a single copy out at any given time. That's why you usually never play 4 of a Legendary card unless it is absolutely vital to a key combo.
As for strictly Blue cards you don't run here... i utilize Ideas Unbound in a Bridge from Below Zombie Aristocrats deck and Phantasmal Image in a regular one. Ideas Unbound is not too ideal here as you can't run Bridge from Below, but Phantasmal Image is phenomenal for copying your lords or any big beater your opponent cheated into the game.
I think the more you play in the Modern format, the faster you will notice that this is a low Mana format. You will often find matchups where amazing cards like Endless Ranks of the Dead, Jace, Memory Adept, Rooftop Storm or Akroma's Memorial end up being too clunky and slow, or you draw 1 of each in your opening hand, which feels absolutely terrible. Having 1 big Enchantment/Artifact is good and fine, but I think you are shooting for too much with your big bombs.
Another tip would be to up your land count to 23. 23 is widely regarded as the "sweet spot" for decks in Modern that don't have any special mana requirements.
3 days ago
casmiel I like the idea of Cryptbreaker just not sure what I want to take out.. Maybe the Diregraf Captains. I already get buffed by Undead Warchief and Death Baron and both have additional benefits. The mana ramp is based on using Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx to add tons of blk to the board by turn 4 or 5. Additionally getting Liliana of Dark Realms maxed out and combo-ing with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth turning all my lands (including colorless) to swamps for huge mana push. Now I can use Cryptbreaker's discard ability to cast From Under the Floorboards for madness.. I only added the Stream of Consciousness to allow me to fetch something(s) that I want from the graveyard before I activate Jace, Memory Adept. But I could see some removal being better.. I also want to utilize my Blue side some more. Any other suggestions/questions?
1 week ago
Great deck, it is always great to see another member of the Izzet League!
If you want to replace certain cards, I would cut Mizzium Mortars and Molten Psyche. Mortars is not even close to being as good as other red boardwipes like Starstorm because 4 damage is often times not enough to wipe the board in commander. Psyche would be amazing, but I feel like you do not have enough symetrical hand cycling going on to make it truly amazing. Sword of War and Peace is only great if you have a really agressive deck, which yours is definatly not. You are drawing the cards, not your opponents, so its second ability is probably less good than it looks. If you really want to use a sword, put in Sword of Fire and Ice it is more on theme.Temple Bell is only worth using in conjunction with Mind Over Matter for infinite draw, otherwise you do not have enough punishment going on that you would want your opponents to draw cards for no reason. Jace, Memory Adept is card advantage, but his +1 is strictly worse than the one of Jace, Unraveler of Secrets and his 0 ability is way to slow with the little amount of mill you have going on.
As for cards I would suggest, I wrote a Primer for my Niv-Mizzet deck, so feel free to check it out if you want some inspiration. I do not know your budget, so I do not want to suggest anything too expensive or boring staples. I really like Commandeer in Niv, because it allows you to Mind Control any noncreature permanent but also misdirect removal spells for 0 mana. Stealing Planeswalkers is just fun! I also like Arcane Denial for its political aspect and cheap cost. A one sided draw spell like Stroke of Genius is also great to have!
Have fun playing with and upgrading the deck!
1 week ago
Jace Beleren is a decent choice.
I feel as though, even as rarely as you might Ult him, Jace, Memory Adept would still be better than Dack.
1 week ago
Maybe a Jace, Memory Adept for the ulti... everyone draws tons of cards!
3 weeks ago
Yeah, some of the cards I just had laying around and need to find better replacements for. As for the land hate, I'm going to eventually be getting Crucible of Worlds and have put Sun Titan in the deck, just need to update it again. I can almost always get three of the mana rocks, so I think the land hate is a nice addition. And I'm going to have to definitely pick up a Tezzeret the Seeker to replace Jace, Memory Adept. As far as the other cards you mentioned, I have been planning to pick those up as well, especially Swan Song and Rhystic Study.