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- Monastery Siege vs Storm
- Do you have to pay 4 mana for two Monastery Sieges in play?
- If i have 2 monastery siege in play and they are both khans,does it mean i draw 3,then discard 2?
- How do Qjutai Exemplars, Clever Impersonators copied as Ojutai Exemplars, and board wipes you cast affect each other?
- If I have multiple cards that increase the amount of cards I draw, do they all trigger at the same time?
As Monaster Siege enters the battlefield, choose Khans or Dragons.
- Khans — At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card, then discard a card.
- Dragons — Spells your opponents cast that target you or a permanent you control cost more to cast.
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Monastery Siege Discussion
3 days ago
4 days ago
I have some recommendations for you:
I choose to run the above cards to have more control over my discard because there is nothing more frustrating than dredging Animate Dead into your graveyard and then drawing a huge creature you can't cast.
These are all great main targets for The Mimeoplasm.
Your build doesn't very many fatty to exile to put couters on The Mimeoplasm.
All three are better than compulsion IMHO.
Drawing cards will win you games.
There are more ideas of course but those are what comes to mind right away for me. I'm basing my recommendations off of my own build, check it out when you have some time. You may find something else you like that I didn't mention.
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5 days ago
obesechicken13, Thanks for asking! Inherently, as an Esper control shell, it's trying to be more proactive with discard spells like Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek, and Collective Brutality, rather than a UW control list, which uses heavy counters like Cryptic Command and Ojutai's Command, which are strongly reactive. The basic idea, is that T1-T3 I want to be casting at least one discard spell a turn, focusing on stripping any answers to Zur/Geist from my opponents'hand. Once a Zur untaps, and I've sucked a few answers out of my opponents' hand, and possibly played a removal/counter spell or two, then Zur will swing in, first for a Monastery Siege on Dragons generally, unless something needs a Detention Sphere. If I have a Geist of Saint Traft in play, then the first fetch will usually be Steel of the Godhead, which goes on the Geist, and generally wins the game if it resolves. After that, I'll get Spheres for removal, Siege for protecting Zur/card advantage, or simply Edge of the Divinity to turn Zur into a beatstick. You are right however, ideally, I have a Geist in play already when Zur untaps, or I cast it on that same turn. Zur + enchantments for a voltron-style plan can work against decks with no hard removal like Burn, certain combo decks, and Tron, but there aren't a lot of decks in modern that can handle a 4/4 Hexproof, Unblockable, Lifelink creature that beats face with an angel to boot.
1 week ago
Sigil of the Empty Throne would compliment your heavy enchantment use. Monastery Siege's Dragons will protect you while slowing down your opponent's answer. You're obviously not running aggro, so Porphyry Nodes can really mess your opponents up. Suppression Field is great on a sideboard against an ability-reliant deck. Defense Grid is good in the sideboard as well. Storage Matrix Can really disturb just about any strategy
3 weeks ago
You can cut a land - 37 should be more than fine considering the number of rocks you have and your curve. As for stuff to cut:
Edge of Divinity, Copy Enchantment, Phyresis, Prison Term, Gift of Immortality, Thassa, God of the Sea, Sword of Body and Mind, Sword of Light and Shadow, Isochron Scepter, Strionic Resonator and Monastery Siege could all be comfortably cut.
You could probably revome the other swords as well (Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Feast and Famine) as you will typically be fetching Diplomatic Immunity as your very first Zur tutor, meaning that you won't be able to target him for the equip trigger once you have.
Also, I would add in Volrath's Stronghold.
1 month ago
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver Isn't really a mill card. more of a take over card. Same with Nightveil Specter.Siren of the Silent Song is not good mill, and not a good creature for a 3 drop.Monastery Siege there are plenty of other ways to draw cards that don't need you discarding. Jace, Memory Adept might be better than ashiok for what you want to do. He will let you draw a card and then you can target yourself to mill 1 card potentially hitting a creature for a Sidisi trigger. Jace, the Living Guildpact would be another good option allowing you to selectively self mill. give you recurion to hand. and letting you restart your graveyard mill clock.Jace's Erasure can let you get another free mill off once a turn. Crawling Sensation is another mill and the occasional hit for a land card going in would be a nice added bonus. Quest for Ancient Secrets another way to restart your milling. Deathgreeter, Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, Falkenrath Noble all allow you to start pinging opponents if your tokens die, or they board wipe you. I know they aren't zombies the but the value is great. Still don't why you aren't running Meren of Clan Nel Toth. Her recursion ability is great and easy to build up. Ezuri, Claw of Progress will trigger for each zombie token you make. And triggers for more then half of your creatures. You are just passing up on so much potential there to make some big beaters. Tasigur, the Golden Fang let's you self mill and recur to hand. amd can be like a 5 drop. I know it is pricey but Crucible of Worlds will let you ramp better. Butcher of Malakir will give you another grave pact effect. That and you maybe board is full of strong cards right now.
1 month ago
Hi MegaMatt13 thanks for all suggestions. I saw your deck and i like it, but my version is a little different than yours, because i'm not concentrate in massive survival, i want to prefer take more value of my cards casting with Gisa and Geralf when zombies have already died or they were descarted.
I tried Fact or Fiction, but I prefer Frantic Search because it's more tempo in my game.sometimes I had Fact or Fiction in my hand and i prefered play another zombie or cast something from my graveyard.
I have got buy Monastery Siege and test it.
Vengeful Dead I tested him but i didn't like because I considerer him poor in stats.
Sorry about my english, currently i'm learning.
I hope you can understand me.
1 month ago
Nice deck :)
I'd suggest more cards similar to Frantic Search that will filter through your deck and dump zombies into your graveyard.
Hope this helps!