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Ancestral Vision is blue.
Suspend 4-(Blue) (Rather than play this card from your hand, pay (Blue) and remove it from the game with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, play it without paying its mana cost.)
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Ancestral Vision Discussion
11 hours ago
I would run your suite of removal/discard/counterspells something like this:
Abrupt Decay x3
Maelstrom Pulse x2 OR Mainboard x1 Sideboard x1
Fatal Push x3
Murderous Cut x1 Sideboard x2
Mana Leak x3
Spell Snare x2 Sideboard x1
I would not run Serum Visions and Thought Scour alongside one another as playsets; at most 3-to-3, but I say cut Visions and keep the playset of Scour.
14 hours ago
Oh. Saw that you didn't want to play like Grixis. Since you aren't interested in looking like a Jund deck either, you are in a weird spot.
As is, you have lots of 2s and 3s of cards that are usually 4s or 0s, which is indicative of being unsure of your plan. I'd suggest starting with a streamlined list (more four-ofs) and decide what you want access to and what cards you are drawing too many/too few of. For example, just try four Fatal Push, four Serum Visions, four Snapcaster Mage, and see what you like. Cut the random 1-ofs (Damnation, Denial, Spellskite are what I would start with) and put them back in if you feel you need them.
As far as my actual opinion goes, I would play four Snaps, four Goyfs, 4 Dark Confidant. I would want four Ancestral Vision and probably a couple of Tasigurs even though they can hurt with Bob. That's just my take.
15 hours ago
I think Grim Flayer is pretty bad either way. I dislike the card quite a bit.
EDIT: After reading your comment.
Since you are trying to play more like Jund/Abzan, embrace it. Go for four LotV, Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip (better with discard and Liliana), and relatively few counterspells. Don't play Cryptic in the same deck as all those discard spells, etc.
The most important thing is to find what you want to do with the archetype. Decide how important you want Cryptic Command to be to your strategy, and the same with Ancestral Vision, discard, and the types of removal you play.
1 day ago
-3 Ancestral Vision, -1 Grim Flayer. +4 Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf was originally out for budget reasons, but Ancestral wasn't really needed with such a strong late game as it is, and Tarmogoyf is better than Grim flayer anyhow.
1 day ago
Hey, the decks are pretty similar. Maybe I can use my Ancestral Visions afterall!
2 days ago
Wirox - so, I tested the Yahenni's Expertise, and I have to admit I prefer the deck without it. At 4 mana, it needs to do more than kill only x/3's owing to Master of Etherium, Arcbound Ravager, all the Merfolk lords, Thought-Knot Seer, Tarmogoyf, and Tasigur, the Golden Fang. Damnation is infinitely better in all of these situations, and the targeted removal to take control of the board early game with Bile Blight and Fatal Push is preferable to a 4 mana small creature wipe. I fear the upside of casting an Ancestral Vision simply did not come up often enough to be useful.
However, I did pull it off once and it was super sweet; if I could be assured that I would draw Expertise on turn 4 and Vision on any turn before that every game, I would run it. But without that consistency, it hasn't been worth it.
3 days ago
Yahenni's Expertise is not a modern card. Getting the free cmc=3 doesn't matter enough to justify playing it when Anger of the Gods is much more relavent vs Dredge and Damnation has the same mana cost but does so much more for the deck.
3 days ago
Engineered Explosives <-- over Anger of the Gods easier to cast in a three color deck, you're not committed to on turn 3.Ratchet Bomb <--Same as above Dreadbore <-- for Planeswalkers in the Side.Ancestral Vision <-- Do not underestimate drawing cards, controls wetdream <-- synergy with Yahenni's Expertisemore Tasigur, the Golden Fang maybe x3drop Young Pyromancer he's better in a dedicated strategy and worse without Gitaxian Probedrop Faithless Looting better if you were running cards with Madnessconsider Spell Snare, Spell Pierce, Familiar's Ruse <-- +1 for synergy with Snapcaster Mage.More artifact hate and explore other options for Graveyard hate.Up the count on Thought Scour to fuel Delve.Tip, prioritize creature's for discard spells, and you can focus more counterspells on noncreatures. Drop Remand