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Ancestral Vision is blue.
Suspend 4-(Blue) (Rather than play this card from your hand, pay (Blue) and remove it from the game with four time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, play it without paying its mana cost.)
Target player draws three cards.
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Ancestral Vision Discussion
1 day ago
ah nvm I thought the update notes were the other way around... thought Ancestral Vision was still removed
1 day ago
also I noticed that you cut Ancestral Vision but not Wheel of Fate or Lotus Bloom, why is this? It seems like if anything you haven't played this deck enough and are cutting cards because they felt bad once or twice
1 day ago
Why do you run Talisman of Impulse over Talisman of Indulgence? Seems like you use black a lot more than green. Also, Opt, Sleight of Hand, Serum Visions, Night's Whisper, Mox Amber, Pact of Negation, and Snap seem like a weird picks here. Opt, Sleight of Hand, Serum Visions, and Night's Whisper are sub-par draw spells that, outside of the Doomsday lines, have no real place here because they they tend to slow down the deck too much during storm turns, especially in the case of Serum Visions. Mox Amber is straight garbage here, as the only two legendary colored permanents you have in the deck are Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder, and Baral, Chief of Compliance. Pact of Negation is a terrible counterspell in this deck, as during cascade turns you want to get maximum value and reliability off of the 0 CMC slot, which is why the deck normally runs value cards like Ancestral Vision, Wheel of Fate, and Mana Crypt. Snap seems like an odd inclusion unless your meta runs a lot of hatebears, and even in that case there are much better removal spells such as Toxic Deluge.
Crow_Storm on BUG
1 day ago
5 days ago
Hmmm... It's FAST, but what's the idea? It seems to be Isochron + Dramatic Reversal/Paradox Engine into AEtherflux Reservoir. That or Big mana into draw your deck and Lab-Man win. If I'm missing something, please let me know!
Overbeing of Myth seems like a "meh" card in my opinion. It seems way out of place and slow for the deck build. I feel like another counterspell to support your very tall tower would be better suited. Voidslime and Disallow are super versatile, while Negate and Delay are cheaper, but will protect most of your pieces long enough to go off.
Now for some strictly Better replacements (for cheap!):Nature's Spiral-->Regrowth (Get ANYTHING back instead of just a permanent!) Also Consider Reclaim and/or Noxious Revival to set up a good card for Rashmi to mini-cascade into.Slight of Hand-->Preordain. Strictly better as you could possibly dig one deeper. You may run them both, though, I imagine.
Finally, A nice trick with your commander is the 0-CMC cards with suspend are cast for free without suspend! Ancestral Vision and Lotus Bloom are the big ones for your deck (I don't think Hypergenesis Really fits the build, though!). They also can be early plays when you're not ramping for value mid-game.
I hope that was of SOME value. Happy Flipping!
2 weeks ago
I think Ancestral Vision is too slow in the current metagame, which is hyper-aggressive. If we ever get to a point where the meta slows down again, I think AV could be a good inclusion, especially next to Liliana of the Veil. Because Liliana puts both players in topdeck mode, if I draw 3 cards on turn 5 while my opponent is hellbent, we'd have to try pretty hard to lose.
2 weeks ago
Love Sultai colors, just have not found a nice shell for it. Thanks for making this. What do you think of Ancestral Vision? Is it too slow?
4 weeks ago
Short term I think you're right to ditch it. It doesn't seem like it's going to make any lasting impression on Standard and there aren't any other decks that seem to want it.
I think long term (as in years) it's worth holding on to because it's still a 0 mana artifact that taps for mana. If WotC printed a 0-mana, legendary creature that still has a color (something like a legendary Dryad Arbor or a creature in the vein of Ancestral Vision), it becomes powerful. It also just gets better as more 1-mana legendary creatures are printed over time.
While these scenarios are rare and probably not something we'll see any time soon, they aren't unthinkable.