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Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle
Legendary Creature — Vampire Cleric Ally
Whenever one or more nontoken Vampires you control attack, create a 1/1 white Vampire creature token with lifelink.
MELLT on Vampire
1 year ago
These are some other cards to consider for the deck and theme. I would suggest using a 24/36 ratio (24 lands to 36 non lands). This gives you the best probability to draw a land every third or fourth turn, which will let you work your way up the mana curve. You should also strive for a nice bell curve on the mana graph if possible. A couple of 1 drops, a few 2 drops, a handful of 3's, a handful of 4's and then back down to a couple of 5 or 6's. Anything more costly than that can be hard to play or not quick enough for some games. And a couple of "responses" is good, ie "destroy target creature" or "exile target enchantment" Probably don't need more than 4-6 in a 60 card deck. I would pick 3-4 really important creatures, like Vito and indulging patrician and bloodthirsty aerialist, for the deck's theme and include 4 copies of them (except legendary creatures since you are only allowed to have one of them on the board at a time and you don't always want to draw a second one to just hold in your hand forever, so maybe drop it to 3(?) or keep at 4 if you think it's important enough). Then pick some "support" cards that help the theme along. In this case stuff like your card draw vampire would be a good choice. A couple of card draw type cards is great. For really expensive costing cards, 6+ mana, they should be your finishers. Once they hit the board you should be on your way to victory, so hopefully just 1 or 2 copies is enough. For a life gain theme, your defiant bloodlord or sanguine bond, is perfect. For a +1/+1 counter theme, you may want to look at splashing red for those vampires instead of white. I would focus on one or the other to streamline the deck to help you narrow down your choices for cards. I've mostly included the vampires with life gain/drain mechanics, but I can look into the +1/+1 counters vampires if you want as well. I like the vampire themes! A powerful tribe in magic!
- Anguished Unmaking
- Arcane Signet
- Blade of the Bloodchief
- Blind Obedience
- Blood Artist
- Cordial Vampire
- Creeping Bloodsucker
- Cruel Celebrant
- Dusk Legion Zealot
- Falkenrath Noble
- Forerunner of the Legion
- Gifted Aetherborn
- Isolated Chapel
- Legion Lieutenant
- Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle
- Nighthawk Scavenger
- Olivia's Wrath
- Sanctum Seeker
- Shattered Sanctum
- Tithe Drinker
- Vampire Nighthawk
- Vampire of the Dire Moon
- Vindicate
Valengeta on Bloodline Reaper
1 year ago
Looking better, more trimmed. If you want to pursue the tokens method you could use more cards that create tokens, such as Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, Legion's Landing Flip, Martyr of Dusk, Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle and Queen's Commission. You will need creatures to support you earlier in the game, and Vampire of the Dire Moon, Gifted Aetherborn, Legion Lieutenant, Cordial Vampire and Indulgent Aristocrat are looking good for that role.
Keep upgrading!
VampRamped on A Vampire Storm *Primer*
1 year ago
Wow those are some good questions let me do my best to answer them. Yes I have an integrated list so I enjoy having the ability to have the option to do either strategy in a game. A more dedicated list is going to be marginally better but because the storm strategy only needs you to play Mana Echoes and Phyrexian Altar you do not really do anything that negatively impacts the aggressive gameplan.
I have had no problems playing Urza's Saga in this list my mana base is very good even without all the dual lands (I only have scrubland) The way to see urza's saga is a very versatile tutor that gives access to mana in sol ring if you really need it or Skullclamp and Sensei's Divining Top which are excellent combo pieces.
Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord is good because my list has a few higher mana value vampires in the deck and cheating them into play is worth losing the vampire token in many cases. Additionally having the flexibility of gaining life and getting some attacking power or having a recurring removal spell are both quite good tools to have.
Scion of Opulence I have found actually carries it's weight very well. Helps out the storm lines if you do not have Phyrexian Altar yet by recouping colored mana in the storm lines. In aggro lines you can sac for mana in a pinch if you need to use a protection spell to save your board. A 3/1 body is also not bad for 3 mana to be aggressive with, and it is really great with Bloodghast so overall good card in my experience.
Signets are roughly as strong as talismans but the main advantage is that if you are going for the storm with just Mana Echoes and Skullclamp you can hit the signets off the draws and you can filter colorless off of Mana Echoes into more colored mana than what you get with the talismans.
Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle is ok he is in a vampire flex slot and I will frequently cut him for access to different vampires, he doesn't trigger off tokens but you usually have a nontoken vampire that is attacking. Even though his stats aren't great you usually have a lot of lords and sac outlets you want to use so the bodies are useful for both those occasions
Right now would admit Butcher of Malakir is on this list for fun he probably isn't that good especially if you are curving out with an aggro strategy. Bloodline necromancer however is good because you have great ETBs that you can recur in this deck in Champion of Dusk and Malakir Bloodwitch.
Shared Animosity is very good and definitely playable I'm only not playing it because it is not useful if you are storming off. Idol of Oblivion is too slow, and if I need card draw I will get Necropotence or Skullclamp as much stronger options. Protection spells are definitely better in more aggressive list but I play reanimator spells because they are strong with both strategies. I can sac my board for value in storm and then bring all the creatures back to net value, and also mass reanimation lets me spend all of my mana every turn and does not require me to hold up mana if I am worried about a board wipe. Though again I think you want to play a critical mass of protection spells in aggro of 5-7.
Thanks for the input and was nice to be able to engage with you
Valdemie on Vampires WB
2 years ago
Apollo_Paladin I've seen your suggestions and I appreciate them very much! I'm very new into magic and I inherited some cards, so I got curious and got into it, but my knowledge is very limited.
I found what I think are two main weaknesses of the deck: The first one is that I don't think I don't take advantage of white color in my deck so much, so your suggestion of Unbreakable Formation and Rally the Ranks comes in handy! The second one is that the mana cost of my cards is imbalanced, and I need to remove some pricey cards in favor of other cards like Legion Lieutenant (as you suggested), Gifted Aetherborn or some Vampire Cutthroat.
Also, I decided to add in Champion of Dusk as I definitely prefer it over Sanctum Seeker or Bloodlord of Vaasgoth. Added the two missing Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle as well. Aand finally I listened to you and added Infernal Grasp instead of Walk the Plank, as it is super easy to purchase, like every other card you suggested!
I won't think of it as a critique! Just the opposite, you helped me so much and I'm very thankful for that :)
YamishiTheWickedOne on Edgar Markov (Needs Tuned)
3 years ago
Edgar typically doesn't need many artifacts. Ideally your vamps should be mostly 1-2 mana anyway. The only artifact I'd say you absolutely NEED is Skullclamp as vamps tend to play their entire hand very early and you have plenty of 1/1s to sacrifice to reload your hand. If you don't have the budget for Stoneforge Mystic (I assume this is budget due to the lack of utility lands) then I'd suggest Steelshaper's Gift and/or Open the Armory or just ordinary tutors like Demonic Tutor , Diabolic Intent , Vampiric Tutor , Enlightened Tutor and so on.
Your vampires actually seem to be pretty high-costed. For Edgar decks, it's pretty common to see upwards of 30 1-2 mana creatures and 40-46 or so creatures total.
I'm a big fan of Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle , Shared Animosity , Mirror Entity and Obelisk of Urd in vamps, along with optional tech in the form of Goblin Bombardment and Impact Tremors , also Nameless Inversion counts as casting a vampire spell, funny enough.
Best of luck, building on a budget can be tough.
Ouroboros_47 on Nosferatu's Posse
3 years ago
darthpaul74 mmm ok. Call to the Feast would generate vampire tokens so would Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle although he might be a bit slower. That way you can keep from having non-vampire cards while still having backups till getting Elenda, the Dusk Rose if that interests you.
VampRamped on [For Sale] The Rich Get Richer
3 years ago
I think the deck is very good but I see the potential for it to be that little bit better by honing in a little more on what you want your deck identity to be, Allow me to explain.
On the one hand, you run cards such as Vicious Conquistador , Pulse Tracker , Skymarcher Aspirant , Universal Automaton , Vampire Cutthroat , Vampire of the Dire Moon , these are all good cards in an Edgar Markov deck focused on trying to kill the table as fast as possible but with all the aristocrats you have, they are at best, 2 bodies for one mana. If you are trying to go for an aristocrats strategy Elenda, the Dusk Rose , Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle , Bloodline Keeper Flip, Living Death , and Patriarch's Bidding , Blade of the Bloodchief are all going to give you significantly more bang for your buck in an aristocrats strategy
On the other is your many many aristocrat's pieces which I know can be good in an aggressive strategy, but these aristocrat cards are harder to justify when you have plenty of vampires in your deck that say, "I'm not a very good card, but I can kill you really fast if I build momentum." I think aggressive choices can be very much so be justified if the card itself is a very high-quality card.
Also quick side note why is Sphere of Safety in your deck? seems very unnecessary considering your playing go, wide aristocrats, Edgar Markov
But yeah I like the deck especially the fact that you recognize that just because your playing Mardu doesn't mean 15% of your deck should be removal spells. I have my own list that you can check out at this link where yes I also do try to balance two strategies at once but I think that my deck makes it work since most of the cards in the deck are not only great in there intended role but pretty good at getting the other job done.
Paramourcat on Eddy Markov
3 years ago
Since you have a lot of the ping life type guys like Blood Artist and such, I'm surprised you aren't running the Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood combo.
Also you are missing some other good lords and tribal vamp stuff like Bloodline Keeper Flip Bloodlord of Vaasgoth Champion of Dusk Elenda, the Dusk Rose Falkenrath Gorger Forerunner of the Legion Indulgent Aristocrat Kalastria Highborn Legion Lieutenant Legion's Landing Flip Malakir Bloodwitch Mavren Fein, Dusk Apostle New Blood Olivia, Mobilized for War Olivia's Bloodsworn Feast of Blood Patron of the Vein Sanctum Seeker Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord Stensia Banquet Stensia Masquerade Thirsting Bloodlord Urge to Feed Vampire Nocturnus Vampiric Fury
ok way more suggestions than I expected, but all good cards to consider! Obviously don't need all of them, it depends on your strategy and what you want to focus on. I would very highly recommend at least Bloodwitch, Mavren Fein, Sanctum Seeker, and probably Legion Lieutenant and Landing for good cheap value on the low end. There's a lot you can get into if you want to mess with madness strategies, or focus on lifegain type stuff and exsanguinate. Like typically you would run Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth for an exsanguinate wincon, among other things. There are other Sorins you can dabble in if you want, but Imperious Bloodlord is probably the most value at 3 CMC and has strong synergy for straight vamp strategies.
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