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Vow of Duty
Enchantment — Aura
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2, has vigilance, and can't attack you or a planeswalker you control.
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Vow of Duty Discussion
1 month ago
I was updating my inventory and there seem to be an awful lot of cards that are missing their Commander Anthology printings here.
Printings not found: Anger (CMT), Arcane Denial (CMT), Bathe in Light (CMT), Boros Guildmage (CMT), Borrowing 100,000 Arrows (CMT), Cleansing Beam (CMT), Congregate (CMT), Control Magic (CMT), Curse of Inertia (CMT), Curse of Predation (CMT), Curse of the Forsaken (CMT), Darksteel Mutation (CMT), Death by Dragons (CMT), Deceiver Exarch (CMT), Diabolic Tutor (CMT), Diviner Spirit (CMT), Dragon Whelp (CMT), Duergar Hedge-Mage (CMT), Evincar's Justice (CMT), Furnace Whelp (CMT), Gwyllion Hedge-Mage (CMT), Hada Spy Patrol (CMT), Krosan Grip (CMT), Leafdrake Roost (CMT), Leonin Bladetrap (CMT), Lightkeeper of Emeria (CMT), Mortify (CMT), Mother of Runes (CMT), Oni of Wild Places (CMT), Orim's Thunder (CMT), Orzhov Guildmage (CMT), Path to Exile (CMT), Pilgrim's Eye (CMT), Presence of Gond (CMT), Pyrohemia (CMT), Razorjaw Oni (CMT), Restore (CMT), Return to Dust (CMT), Selesnya Charm (CMT), Selesnya Guildmage (CMT), Serra Angel (CMT), Shattered Angel (CMT), Skyward Eye Prophets (CMT), Soul Snare (CMT), Stonecloaker (CMT), Sulfurous Blast (CMT), Swiftfoot Boots (CMT), Sylvan Reclamation (CMT), Syphon Flesh (CMT), Syphon Mind (CMT), Terminate (CMT), Thornwind Faeries (CMT), Thunderstaff (CMT), Vow of Duty (CMT), Vow of Lightning (CMT), Vow of Malice (CMT), Wash Out (CMT), Winged Coatl (CMT), Wonder (CMT), Wrecking Ball (CMT).
1 month ago
1 month ago
Dulcet Sirens is the wrong color, but it's so perfect :(
Crown of Doom is fine. You can just have a bunch of cards that say "all creatures must attack" like Basandra, Battle Seraph and Warmonger Hellkite and then have things like Ghostly Prison and Sphere of Safety to force opponents to either pay to attack you or attack someone else.
1 month ago
Oh hey! It's always great to see somebody getting into group hug, I feel like I've had a fair amount of experience playing group hug and politics in general (My first deck was How to Have Fun in EDH - Phelddagrif Surprise) and from my experience I've noticed that people tend to love group hug in the first game that you play, and slowly gravitate towards disliking it. I'm here to help you with preventing that slow decline, because after playing a lot of other decks I've realized that it is preventable if you play the game with enough tact.
The decline in "fun" was partially due to the way I was playing, but also due to the fact that with group hug a) it can make the games last a lot longer, b) people start to become wise to your tricks and the fact that you have win cons in mind and c) group hug can cause the game to change significantly, which means that people sometimes don't get to play their deck the way they wanted to play it. Here is my explanation for each:
a) While it might seem nice and innocent to prevent damage dealt to people and/or give them life (using Avacyn, Guardian Angel for example), all it is really doing sometimes is prolonging the inevitable, and taking away the impact of attacking (see part c). Drawing a lot of cards is fun, but then the control player might end up with an answer for everything. Getting lands/creatures is fun, but it can cause a full-board stalemate. In addition, generally when people have more options/resources, they end up taking a lot longer to play through their turn.
b) Cards like Felidar Sovereign can really turn off players to the idea of group hug, since it sort of removes the veil of friendliness from the deck. The problem is that if you put obvious win cons in the deck, players will start to get suspicious of your every move. For example: If you start giving a player life/hippos, instead of thinking "wow what a nice guy" they might start thinking "hmm, they are probably trying to buy some time since I bet they have a win con soon"
c) I think your deck is a lot better for this than mine (since mine was just all-out group hug with no remorse or concern for limits), but generally I've noticed that when you give players a lot of resources, their initial plans go down the drain; the control player now could have a lot more ways to prevent things from happening, the Johnny now has an army of hippos to block while he searches for his janky combo, the Timmy is complaining because he keeps slamming down awesome creatures, only to have them countered, and that one guy with the really bad deck is still struggling because no matter what resources you give him, everyone else is still benefitting a lot more.
Now there is a very clear rebuttal to all of these: "Well I don't necessarily have to give EVERYONE resources, just the people that need help/are being nice". This is a fairly sound argument for a few games, but then people will get tired of playing "Be the group hug player's friend or lose the game". This is why tact is extremely important.
My advice: Go ahead and have fun: the deck looks fun, the archetype plays fun, but don't go all out every game. Give yourself one game to get to that sweet sweet group hug singularity, but after that practice a bit of self-control. It will help you a ton in the long run.
For example, try limiting yourself to only activating each of Phelddagrif's abilities once per round (or once per player per round) or reconsider using Avacyn, Guardian Angel because it might come back to bite you when people want the game to end, or at least try to leave yourself tapped out sometimes.
Another piece of advice from me is to try to make your win cons more well-hidden. For example, try putting in a Prosperity and a Elixir of Immortality instead of a Felidar Sovereign, then use some group ramp spells like New Frontiers to give yourself enough mana to use it for lethal in an emergency (but of course that was't the intent of putting it in, just something you realized later, right?). I'd suggest removing some of your pillow fort cards like Collective Restraint and Ghostly Prison so that people aren't avoiding attacking you because they can't, but because they don't want to. Giving people choice is the best thing to do
And that segways into the most important thing about politics in EDH: People want control. The reason why so many combo decks aren't fun, the reason why control/stax decks are just so annoying, the reason why people can get so upset at having their creatures killed are all because it took control away from that player. This is why cards like Swans of Bryn Argoll are so freakin effective, because the resources aren't just there - you have to work for them, and it pays off when you get them. Unfortunately, most group hug decks don't realize this, which is why there is such a huge gap between group hug and politics sometimes. Take my grixis control/group slug deck as an example: (source: Your Best Evil Friend - EDH Tempting Deals) Grixis, Control, Group Slug, but somehow heavily political; It's because so many cards that I use give the opponent options, and in the end THEY are the ones making the decision to (with Ludevic's ability), attack somebody other than me or even hurt themselves to draw cards. Mages' Contest is an objectively BAD counterspell in a blue deck (aside from the ability to use red mana), but it puts the burden of having one's spell countered on my opponent's shoulders, making it a surprisingly GOOD card for politics. Other counterspells are still used, but only when the control player already tried to interfere or somebody is getting obviously oppressive/out of hand. This is why vows (ie Vow of Flight, Vow of Wildness and Vow of Duty) are so effective: people can't attack me, but they still gained something, and they still have the same (or even more) control over the outcome of the game. Other players don't like it? Well hey, I'm just trying to keep myself from dying. Have some cards as compensation. Fecundity is also great for this, depending on what kind of decks you are playing against. You don't have control over who gets to draw cards, but it is a nice little present to the guy who just had his stuff killed, and it makes for a funny reaction when a boardwipe comes down.
Anyways, I hope through this random amalgamation of thoughts I was able to help in any way, I usually don't write this much but I have so much to say about politics in commander. It requires a lot of finesse but it pays off to see your friends having fun while you still have a big impact on the game. I hope you have fun, and let me know if you want any card suggestions! I didn't want to make this too much bigger which is why I left a lot out. poorpinkus out
1 month ago
Hi, avid karona player here. i have some tips for you:
Elephant Grass makes it so that karona cant attack you and also works as another pillowfort enchantment
Propaganda is another pillowfort option
Assault Suit is helpfull if you play against a lot of decks that like to sacrifice creatures
Maze of Ith is good to stop people from attacking you as well as helping karona survive bad attacks
Tempt with Discovery gets you any land and maybe more than one
Chromatic Lantern helps with the 5 color problem
Thassa, God of the Sea can only make creatures you control unblockable
Emeria, The Sky Ruin you play only six plains
Doubling Season only seems to work with the planeswalkers
Leyline of Anticipation you play almost zero interaction
hope this helps :) you can look at my profile for my karona list, its called karona pillowfort.
3 months ago
That's kind of cool. A commander deck is a form of self expression I feel. On a side note, have you considered trying out any of the vows in this deck? Karona isn't picking about who she fights for and can deal a fair bit of damage to you. However if you used one of these Vow of Flight, Vow of Lightning, Vow of Wildness, or the slightly weaker Vow of Duty, and Vow of Malice you could prevent her from turning on you.
3 months ago
To protect yourself from karona, I would suggest putting in a copy of every vow, (Vow of Duty, Vow of Flight, Vow of Malice, Vow of Lightning, Vow of Wildness) and Assault Suit. and to give buffs, you could run Shared Triumph, Cover of Darkness, Adaptive Automaton, Door of Destinies, Belbe's Portal, Brass Herald, and finally Obelisk of Urd, and my personal favorite card in karona strategies, is Sakashima the Impostor, It keeps its name, allowing you to get and keep a second copy of your commander.
4 months ago
Wild Research has a color identity, and is not legal for your deck.
The only way I can think of to attach lots of auras to Uril at the same time is to play Retether, Open the Vaults, or Replenish while you have Uril out and a lot of auras in the graveyard already. Either that or play Primal Surge and hope you don't hit a non-permanent. Up to you whether you think either of those are a good idea.
The ONLY ways for you to deal infect damage with Uril in Naya colors are Grafted Exoskeleton and Triumph of the Hordes. There are no other cards that grant infect to a creature outside of blue and black.
Symmetrical card draw is very bad in EDH, since it just gives people more gas to answer you or win the game ahead of you. Font of Mythos, Horn of Greed, Howling Mine, Omen Machine, Temple Bell, and Rites of Flourishing should all be cut. Wheel of Fortune and Reforge the Soul are usually better because you can wait to cast them until you have no hand and your opponents have lots of cards, but you actually have better options in green, so I'd recommend cutting at least Reforge.
Replace with the following: Sram, Senior Edificer, Kor Spiritdancer, Rishkar's Expertise, Sage's Reverie, Soul's Majesty, Abzan Beastmaster, Mesa Enchantress, Verduran Enchantress, and Eidolon of Blossoms (maybe).
You also NEED better ramp. Tithe, Cultivate, Journey of Discovery, Elfhame Sanctuary, and Kodama's Reach are all sub-par and should be cut. 41 lands is also WAY too high. You'll be able to ramp much more consistantly if you cut that down. You can go down to 35 lands without a problem, and then after that you can cut one land for every 0 CMC mana rock you add to the deck. (Don't worry about Exploration, Burgeoning, and Oracle of Mul Daya being less effective. The extra draw factor will offset that. I would probably cut Azuza though, since she doesn't give you much if you aren't flooded with land.) Out of your lands, Jungle Shrine, Maze of Ith, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, and Temple of the False God are all kind of bad and could be cut. Some better utility lands would be Kessig Wolf Run and Hall of the Bandit Lord.
All of the following are better ramp than you have: Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Lotus Petal, Lotus Bloom, Ancient Tomb, Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Coalition Relic, Boros Signet, Selesnya Signet, Gruul Signet, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Mystic, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Dryad Arbor (tutored off of Green Sun's Zenith, Harrow, Crop Rotation (into Ancient Tomb), Gemstone Caverns, Chromatic Lantern (maybe), Joraga Treespeaker (maybe), Skyshroud Claim (maybe), Trace of Abundance (maybe), Fertile Ground (maybe), Utopia Sprawl (maybe), and Wild Growth (maybe). You may also want to consider Herald of the Pantheon or Hero of Iroas to reduce the cost of your spells.
Now, on to the auras. You have a ton of auras that don't really do... anything? I get that you want to buff Uril as much as possible, but EDH is format of card advantage, and you really shouldn't be playing cards that just read, "your commander gets +2/+2."
I would cut all of the following Abzan Runemark, Angelic Destiny (this really doesn't give you much for 4 mana), Asha's Favor, Burrowing, Call To Serve, Cave Sense, Crown of Awe, Dust Corona, Eternal Warrior, Griffin Guide, Gryff's Boon, Inviolability (He already going to be the biggest thing around, why do you need this?), Murder Investigation (You have no support for these tokens.), Nimbus Wings, Serra's Embrace, Triclopean Sight, Vigilance, and Vow of Duty.
And here's what I recommend in their place:
Extra protection for your commander: Shielded by Faith, Spider Umbra, Hyena Umbra, Felidar Umbra, Bear Umbra, and Flickerform. (Speaking of protection, Tajuru Preserver, Grand Abolisher, Vexing Shusher, Gaea's Herald, and Sigarda, Host of Herons are all good ways to make sure Uril can't be messed with.)
Also put in Spirit Loop. It's cheap and comes back if Uril leaves play somehow.
Other miscellaneous stuff:
Heliod's Pilgrim, Open the Armory, and Plea for Guidance are other tutors you could include. Open the Armory also grabs Grafted Exoskeleton and Helm of the Gods if you put them in, so I'd recommend it.
Nomad Mythmaker might make a useful recovery tool.
Mayael's Aria buffs Uril, gains you life, and can straight up win the game for you, nuff said.
If you can find the space, you could really use better board control to deal with problem permanents. Here are some good removal spells in your colors: Swords to Plowshares, Beast Within, Chaos Warp, Oblation, Krosan Grip, Oblivion Ring, Qasali Pridemage, Return to Dust, Hull Breach, Winds of Rath, Chandra's Ignition, Austere Command, and Wrath of God.
And that's all I can think of at the moment. Good luck.