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When Abhorrent Overlord enters the battlefield, put a number of 1/1 black Harpy creature tokens with flying onto the battlefield equal to your devotion to black. (Each in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to black.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature.
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Abhorrent Overlord Discussion
3 days ago
First of all, a commander deck must have exactly 100 cards (including your commander), and you have 106
I suggest you remove some lands, as that takes up almost 50% of your deck
Now, if I were to build a Mazirek deck, I would definitely go with a heavy token strategy, as tokens are relatively easy to produce (especially in Golgari), expendable, and given enough time and resources, can easily win you the game.
So, with that in mind, I suggest you remove these:
-1 Sedge Scorpion, Typhoid Rats, Tormented Soul, Pharika's Chosen, Blisterpod, Black Cat, Elderscale Wurm, Nylea, God of the Hunt, Ghoultree, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Dark Betrayal, Traveler's Amulet, Kheru Dreadmaw, Hunter's Ambush, Commencement of Festivities, Pulse of Murasa, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Bonds of Mortality, Karametra's Acolyte, Baloth Null
And possibly replace some of them with some of these:
Mycoloth, Ashnod's Altar, Grave Pact, Viscera Seer, Avenger of Zendikar, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Animation Module, Hardened Scales, Mind Slash, Orochi Hatchery, It That Betrays, Creakwood Liege, Vulturous Zombie, Catacomb Sifter, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Falkenrath Noble, Blood Artist, Necrogenesis, Deathreap Ritual, Attrition, Perilous Forays, Korozda Guildmage, Reaper of the Wilds, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Abhorrent Overlord, Grim Haruspex, Yavimaya Elder, Golgari Germination
That's all I can think of off of the top of my head
3 days ago
I trimmed my deck down to 61, but im back on 66. I'd say im willing to make the compromise of having a deck tahts a bit bigger than normal. How do you see this?
(I've got 22/66 lands. thats a third excaclty. How do you feel about this, please?)
3 days ago
Ok, gotcha! Now the advice I am going to give is just advice, you are under no obligation to adhere to it. ;D So first off let's start with the cards I don't think fits all that well and take them out in order to get your deck to 60 cards. Nighthowler he is an enchantment but not that great if an ability for this deck. Especially when you have cards that pull creatures from your graveyard. That really hinders him. Erebos's Titan is another misfit, as I see it he has no benefit from being in this deck, his second ability I don't see getting used much. Gonti, Lord of Luxury is a great card but doesn't fit into this deck. I know how fun it is to steal opponts cards and laugh as you cast it, but this deck isn't built to do that this it would only hinder you. Dark Prophecy is great but I think you may have enough draw and this one is conditional, so it's not for sure to draw you a card. Font of Return I think is too expensive for what it does. Mutilate also hurts your creatures so I would drop that. I'm all honesty though I would drop the devotion side of this deck and focus on the enchantment side of things. If you did I would drop the 4 gray merchant and Abhorrent Overlord. Sorry for the wall of text and again these are my opinions, don't take them to heart this is your deck and should be done the way you want ;)
3 days ago
Dredgar, thanks for the feedback.
I like the enchantment creatures, I like the creature - enchantment interaction, and I like the Erebos-theme. I take life away, while trying to make sure I've got the cards to do so. The ultimate goal is ramping up a nice devotion to Black so I can play the big boys (I'm a Timmy) Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Abhorrent Overlord if even needed at this point. A nice fail safe would be Extinguish All Hope as (at time of writing) 15/24 creatures are enchantment-creatures.The chance of an opponent having them as well are small.
The main thing im trying to achieve here is making sure that along the entire playcurve my cards support each other.The early game enchantment creatures ( Baleful Eidolon, Grim Guardian, Herald of Torment and Master of the Feast) and non creature spells (Sinister Possession, Hall of Triumph, and Whip of Erebos)are there to annoy the opponent with lifeloss, and buff my creatures keeping me alive , while I work my way up to having a nice devotion to Black and making sure i've got the cards to do so (Sign in Blood and Read the Bones, as well as Macabre Waltz and Font of Return)
Looking forward to your feedback (no rush)
4 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions, dlamars!
It turns out with this deck mana usually isn't an issue between Crypt Ghast, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, and Magus of the Coffers. Butcher will NOT get cut because Grave Pact effects are simply insane in this kind of deck, sac a token, each opponent sacs a creature, get 3 counters on yahenni, repeat. Overseer of the Damned works well in conjuction with these, but i was actually thinking about cutting him. As for overlord, he's an amazing token producer, and kuon is just another The Abyss. The sac not destroy is annoying, but my opponents need a lot of removal to kill all my other stuff, or a wrath but my playgroup doesnt run many wraths other than Planar Cleansing and Apocalypse
I do love Captain's Claws, i will test that out. I don't like the Sengir Autocrat because I want repeatable tokens (e.g Overseer of the Damned or big effects (e.g Abhorrent Overlord. I did add the skeleton, and skullclamp seems good but i dont know yet.
4 days ago
Hey, I've been brewing this guy too he seems like he is a really fun commander. I'd suggest taking out the following: Butcher of Malakir, Abhorrent Overlord, Overseer of the Damned and Kuon, Ogre Ascendant.
The reason for these cuts is mostly cmc, with this deck I'd think you really want to be going fast and early. Also Kuon, unlike abyss is a sac effect so a smart opponent may force you to sac your commander. I'd suggest adding:
1 week ago
Always happy to help RazortoothMtg! I definitely understand having to stick to budget needs. I think some other token generators you could look at are Ogre Slumlord, Abhorrent Overlord, Sifter of Skulls, and the new Sly Requisitioner. Two cards that could be helpful in a wrath-heavy deck are Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Cauldron of Souls. I know the former is a bit pricey but he may be a good investment down the road.
I'm not sure how you feel about infinite combos but you can make infinite tokens with Grave Titan + Nim Deathmantle + Ashnod's Altar. You can add other components to this combo to create infinite damage, draw, etc.
One good card I would always have in mono-black is Gray Merchant of Asphodel. He can be a huge life swing and possibly even a game ender.
Magus of the Abyss could also be quite helpful in this deck. I definitely second that (budget pending), you should add Sheoldred, the Whispering One because she's meant for decks like this. You could look at less efficient but still effective means of pseudo-reanimating in the form of Brood of Cockroaches, Endless Cockroaches, and Oversold Cemetery. Since you aren't going to be re-using too many cards in your graveyard, things like Magus of the Will or Empty the Pits could be useful for big plays.
2 weeks ago
I'm honestly not too much of a fan of Abhorrent Overlord :( His tokens arrive too late in the game to be super helpful, and I'm looking for the slow-grind repeatable token makers right now.
Smokestack is an extremely powerful card, but for the moment I'm trying to stay away from the really hard stax/lockdown cards (like Contamination). I'll consider adding it if this deck gets more competitive.
And I'm considering Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder. Has he played well for you?
Glistening Oil: I don't want to be THAT guy who plays infect. Fallen Ideal is interesting! I hadn't considered that before. I need to test more to see if I generally have a lot of creatures out at any given point (which would make it worth it). Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed is too expensive, and Yawgmoth's Will is something I prefer in combo decks.
Thanks for the comment! Sorry for the somewhat terse response, I haven't had much time to comment on this deck recently and the comments are piling up :(
neolights2363: What noncreature removal would you suggest? I'm already playing Gate to Phyrexia, which is almost the only artifact removal in black. Most of the removal in colorless is really, really expensive (in terms of mana) so I don't think it's good enough.
Now, with regards to equipment - I'm trying to make this deck distinct from my Judgment Day: Avacyn the Purifier EDH | *PRIMER* deck, so I don't want to focus too much on equipment. With that in mind,
Sword of Vengeance: Overcosted, and haste/first strike are not too handy on my commander.
Sword of the Animist is sweet, but since my commander comes down early, it doesn't fit well into my curve. Again, though, I'll consider it.
Infiltration Lens: I prefer straight unblockable TBH.
Dark Prophecy: I've been back-and-forth on this one. It's only useful when I already have a degree of setup (tokens on field and a sac outlet), whereas Phyrexian Arena is useful at all points in the game. I'm undecided here, and I'd love to find slots in both, but...
Dictate of Erebos: Already in of course :)
Bloodsoaked Champion/Reassembling Skeleton: I cannot decide on these without a little more testing, but at the moment I'm worried that holding up the 2 mana might be a problem. We'll have to see. Bloodghast is so good because it costs no mana to recur it.
Karn, Silver Golem: Oooh, interesting!
Thanks for the comment! :)
EternalBrewmaster: I feel that Damnation is a strict upgrade over Languish, and that I'm playing a decent array of board wipes already. Which card would you cut for Languish? -X/-X wipes don't play nice with my commander :(
I thought that Overseer of the Damned costs too much mana - do you feel it's worth seven? Also, I don't like the art :(
And yeah, this deck had a good run in the top rankings, hehe. Now time for further promotion! :)