Ok so I got together all the cards you were wanting. The Eye of Ugin is played with most of the wear being on the back edges, and one Reality Smasher has a tiny bend in the bottom left corner. The card is flat, but there is a crease mark where it got bent at some point. Other than that, all the cards are in good shape, no worse than lightly played. I can send pics if needed. If this is good with you and you're fine with sending first, I think we can go ahead and move this along and exchange addresses. Also if you don't upgrade your account on here, I'll be glad to vouch for you in any future trades with other people on the site assuming this trade goes smoothly.
Email me at [email protected] and we can continue the discussion with private info on there.
October 3, 2020 12:34 p.m.
That sounds reasonable to me. I'll try to check on the condition of my cards in the morning and make sure none of them are too bad. Most should be in good shape but a few might have some wear. I'll get back with you and let you know.
October 2, 2020 11:16 p.m.
TCG market prices are the ones in ()
1 oboro (kamigawa block) 34.49 (35.65)
4 sensei's divining top 45.45 (44.32)
Total 216.29 (212.93)
Want 1x eye of ugin 10.24 (10.24)
1x forbidden orchard 24.74 (24.74)
1x mindslaver 4.23 (4.23)
2x phyrexian obliterator 21.03 (21.17)
1x platinum emperion 9.75 (9.75)
1x academy ruins 6.43 (6.20)
4x bring to light .68 (.66)
4x collected company 9.39 (9.71)
3x glorybringer 2.27 (2.24)
2x kuldotha forgemaster 3.72 (3.72)
4x leyline of sanctity 1.70 (2.07)
1x phyrexian crusader 4.99 (7.85)
2x possessed portal 2.51 (2.51)
1x protean hulk M25 6.02 (5.81)
4x reality smasher 2.82 (2.85)
2x sanctum of ugin .87 (.87)
2x search for azcanta 5.53 (5.02)
1x slaughter pact 3.62 (3.62)
Total 202.51 (206.90)
My copies are probably considered LP to Played (corner wear)so I'm willing to take of the difference if you're good with the idea.
October 2, 2020 9:55 p.m.
It was all kamigawa block cards...I will send you my initial list later tonight with the prices I saw on here and we will go from there. I will try to reference tcg to make sure its comparable.
October 2, 2020 6:34 p.m.
Ok gotcha. That all sounds reasonable to me. I'm not sure which versions of Top you have, but the Kamigawa market price is $44.53 and Iconic Masters is $49.19. Oboro is $35.65. So I guess use those numbers to build the trade how you want, let me know, and we'll go from there
October 2, 2020 5:59 p.m.
What I was thinking about trading off was a set of tops and an oboro for a bunch of rares/mythics. I made the totals shown between the has/wants lists roughly equal (me taking off a little for play conditions) using the numbers on the site. I had no clue on the values listed which is why I wanted to ask.
October 2, 2020 4:32 p.m.
Hey there, the prices on the right are not usually the best to go buy. I'm not sure what they reflect, but it definitely isn't a metric I'd use for trading. I trade using the Market Price listed on Tcgplayer, which is a good average of what the most recent copies of cards have been selling for. They have an app for Android (and I assume Apple as well) for scanning/looking up cards, and I know it uses the market price. Also the Mtg Familiar app can do the same but is geared more toward trading, allowing you to compare multiple lists at once.
If you'd like to shoot me an offer, I'm all ears! If we do work out a trade, I will request that you send first since you do not have visible refs on this site nor a trade binder. If that's ok with you, I'd love to start working on a trade.
October 2, 2020 3:54 p.m.
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That's basically what I was doing. I ran the same 1 drops in max copies and used Time of Need to tutor iona up if I needed to. I also tried Congregation at Dawn to stack the deck for Fa'adiyah Seer. I never felt great about the build and scrapped it after a couple days of goldfishing. I may proxy your version up to see how I like it as well.
October 26, 2020 8:11 p.m.
I built something like this one time, but I was reanimating Iona, Shield of Emeria.
October 26, 2020 4:40 p.m.
Here is the more combo like version. I will say it's a pretty rough draft, but this is just to give you an idea of what I was considering . You'll want to customize it to best suit you and your meta.
4x Pentad Prism
4x Izzet Signet
4x Steam Vents
October 22, 2020 10:29 p.m.
Here's a pretty basic counter/burn version like I originally suggested. Drop a couple suspend/early creatures and then react to your opponents plan from there.
4x keldon halberdier
4x rift elemental
3x errant ephemeron
1x pardic dragon (this is a questionable slot)
2x greater gargadon
4x lightning bolt
2x arc blade
4x rift bolt
3x izzet charm
3x anger of the gods/kozilek's return/magmaquake/pyroclasm (meta)
3x essence scatter or negate (meta)
4x steam vents
4x sulfur falls
I'll have you a more combo-like version shortly.
October 22, 2020 9:59 p.m.
Kozileks return can also kill Kor Firewalker.
October 21, 2020 5:05 p.m.
I'm about to head into work so it'll be either late tonight/tomorrow before I'll have you a build. If I'm feeling the brewing spirit, I just might make both a build for both options I suggested. My brains even been teasing me with a 3 color control build that uses Teferi, Time Raveler in combination with Isochron Scepter and Delay to possibly leave your opponents spells in exile. Either way, I'll see what I can do for you later.
October 20, 2020 1:09 p.m.
Lord_Olga I do understand what you are getting at, but most of the suspend cards you have are easier to get into play without jhoira and even if you bring jhoira into play on turn 3, you are looking at turn 4 suspending other things, thus making them come into play a turn or 2 sooner at best. That's a lot of hoops to go through, not counting needing to cast jhoira and having her live a turn to boot (assuming turn 3 jhoira). If its a later in the game jhoira then you've lost the basic benefit she would provide you (speed). After all, why wait 2-3 turns for something when you could have the necessary mana to just play it anyways.
I see a lot of potential issues with the support cards as well. Timebug, for example, is pretty fragile and not likely to keep you alive. Flood of tears is unlikely to get you an omniscience (best case) in play. And should you draw a combination of cards that don't synergize well, then that's gonna leave you in a bad position fast. This is kinda why I would personally go away from a lot of these options.
But since you do want to run through jhoira, how about trying to maximize her and minimize the suspend aspect. You'd be looking at more of a combo deck than a synergy based deck. Try a build that focuses more on the flood of tears into omniscience and jhoira with things like Talisman of Creativity and some more mana sources and it should not only speed you up, but allow you to cast your big stuff at a reasonable time in case the jhoira/flood plan doesn't work out. This could free up more slots for big/impactful creatures and spells that can keep you alive as well. I can make a basic/unrefined version for you if you want to see what I'm talking about.
But again, my thoughts and do what you feel like is best/most enjoyable.
October 20, 2020 12:53 p.m.
You have way too many things going on here. Try to focus on one aspect (probably suspend) and work from there.
I am going to work off the suspend angle here and say remove the following: chronozoa, inkwell leviathon, bearer of the heavens, the jhoira cards, keranos, timebender and all the enchantments. With all this space freed up, you can increase quantities on your better suspend cards and run more counters/burn spells. Imagine suspending a couple keldon halberdiers early and then blowing up the board with an Anger of the Gods. Your keldons could come into play then with possible counterspell protection from there.
But this is my idea on what I would try to do with it. Take it for what you will, but most importantly do what you want and have fun with it.
October 20, 2020 11:30 a.m.
dingusdingo Blood moon fills the role of non targeted disruption. Assuming that an opponent isnt red based, you can target their basics and essentially eliminate all functional mana they may have that way.
October 20, 2020 9:55 a.m.
A couple things I noticed are that you're running 62 cards and the lower land count. I would move the cindervines to a sideboard and put in a couple more lands. If your worried about land flood, then use some of the double faced cards that just came out for extra spells if you need them.
October 19, 2020 7:49 a.m.
Not a problem...happy spirit banishing.
October 14, 2020 8:56 p.m.
October 14, 2020 8:46 p.m.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. It was in the other build I am working on.
October 14, 2020 5:19 p.m.
So I had a big long response wrote out about some big changes I think would help you (both budget and not) and then I got to thinking about the trade routes some more. With that being said it led me to start over with my thinking and this is the results.
Chancellor of the Tangle : I think this would be a good addition to speed your deck up in combination with the simian spirit guide's. Being able to drop a turn 1 tribe scout and crab/altar in the same turn seems really strong. If you could manage to land a turn 2 retreat to coralhelm (using a simian spirit guide) then a turn 2 win would be possible. It would require Oboro, Palace in the Clouds (far from budget I know) and some other unlikely circumstances. The turn 3 is probably a safe bet though for an ideal win.
Heartbeat of Spring: This enchantment would allow you to generate mana off of your trade routes to use towards soratami activations of whatever else might entertain you later on. It works for both players so I wouldn't cast this until the turn you intend to win on.
Drift of Phantasms: This can tutor for retreat to coralhelm (or heartbeat) and can be grabbed off your incubation/incongruity.
Drop most all the red cards in favor of more lands and more crabs. Ruin Crab is an excellent addition to the mill strategy. Landing a turn 1/2 mill card is very important to your deck and you'll need the extra lands for landfall/coralhelm.
October 14, 2020 1:27 a.m.
Personally, I like the changes and look forward to seeing what the new meta looks like. I predict rogues will still be solid and the rest will fall into place from there.
October 12, 2020 1:08 p.m.
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