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|Modern Masters 2017 Edition||Uncommon|
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Creature — Vampire Shaman
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
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Vampire Nighthawk Discussion
1 day ago
Firstly you should really cut it down to 60 cards, Ashen Rider is the first card that can come out as you will never get the chance to play it. You should also focus your creatures and spells a bit more. Chose the ones you absolutely need (Vampire Nighthawk is a god starting point) and use those. Seeing how you are playing Cliffhaven Vampire I would suggest Drana's Emissary and Gifted Aetherborn. You could also use more Lingering Souls. And get rid of the illegal cards.
1 day ago
Heir of Falkenrath Flip would fit well into your curve. I like Skysovereign, Consul Flagship as your top end threat. Maybe go down the Lightning Strikes for Lightning Bolts? Drana, Liberator of Malakir bumps up your smaller creatures.
1 day ago
With all the discard, you could try Waste Not or something similar. Another great creature you can add is Vampire Nighthawk. I've never experimented with mono-b decks outside 8rack so its an interesting idea. What is the goal of the deck exactly tho? It seems all-around without too much of a specific focus.
Btw, you have the best username ever. cheers.
2 days ago
Any final recommendations before I place my order for the card set?
As much as I've tried to attempt the set with Heartless Summoning, I've run 62 playtests (I've counted), and I've drawn into the card only 8 of the 62 total playtests. Granted, that's largely very unlucky, especially since I was running 3 copies, but the deck seems to function fairly well on its own without it. I'm still going to place an order for at least 4 copies of the card, but I feel it's clunky, since I can typically set a Game-Winning field by Turn 6-8, and still have a fortune of mana left over to activate discards, destroys, and exiles all the way up to the typical final turn.
Furthermore, the -1/-1 or -2/-2 Power reduction of the card actually negatively impacts my standard setup. Most of the time, I end up having an Odric, Lunarch Marshal, Vampire Nighthawk, and typically Brisela, Voice of Nightmares or Griselbrand, with atleast 1 variation of Avacyn by Turn 6-8.
Mind you, this is entirely without Heartless Summoning. Liliana provides adequate Swamp searching, turn to turn, and even if she is targeted and destroyed, the initial Swamp search helps bolster my Mana Count early on. Griselbrand provides excellent card cycling, and Rune-Scarred Demon is fantastic for searching out the other half of Brisela, depending on who I already have out. If Odric, Lunarch Marshal is nuked early, I can always summon another copy, or revive, and suddenly my field is now loaded with anywhere from 3-6 cards, all with any combination of: DeathTouch, Lifelink, FirstStrike, Flying, Vigilance, or even Indestructible.
That's absolutely insane! The only thing I can see that could stop such a setup is a handful of Exiles, or a field nuke.
The deck seems to have insanely reliable clearing, with an adequate number of copies of Despise, Inquisition of Kozilek, Anguished Unmaking, Doomblade, and Blessed Alliance. Should anything manage to get through, I always can rely on Unburial Rites double-casting for revives, or even Bruna, the Fading Light for a free Avacyn or Odric resurrection.
Again, this is all typically relying on winning by turn 6-8, but since I haven't played Modern in a tournament or competitive setting, I'm not necessarily familiar with the average Turn to Win. Like I posted in the description, I largely play casually between friends, and since we run with 40 Life totals, and not the typical 20, Turn 6-8 seems like a decent average, and the deck performs optimally within that time frame.
Any final tips or recommendations are greatly appreciated! Thank you for the continuous input as well @Casmiel. Your recommendations really helped me form this beautiful monstrosity!
6 days ago
Gotta support fellow black players, so +1. Here are my suggestions.
Since your playgroup is mostly casual players, I'm guessing most of the decks are likely creature based ones, which makes cards like Smallpox very effective and dealing with any early game creatures your opponents might have. If you do go the pox route, Tombstalker could be in your future.
If you want some good creatures, Gifted Aetherborn is definitely good as more nighthawks are always great. Abyssal Persecutor would be perfect for this deck since you run so much removal. Also, Lashwrithe on cards like Vampire Nighthawk can end games very quickly.
Honestly, especially in casual metas, decks like this are often very destructive, cutting expensive kill spells for cheaper cmc ones will likely be enough for you to stop what your opponent is doing and kill them.
1 week ago
Thanks for the upvote seshiro_of_the_orochi.
Indeed, there are no threedrops because of several reasons. Some key twodrops effectively cost 3 if you want them to have an immediate effect on that turn like Kalastria Highborn or Gatekeeper of Malakir. Sometimes you just want to play two cards for 1 + 2 CMC on T3 like Bloodghast and Viscera Seer, or you play a 2 CMC card and leave 1 land untapped for being able to activate Mutavault to use as a defender or for being able to cast Fatal Push as a potential answer on the opponents turn. I found myself using T3 more often than not for one of these combo plays here, but there are more.
The only worthy threedrop I can think off is Liliana of the Veil, but I decided not to run her as explained in the "Noticeable Missing Cards" section.
Vampire Nighthawk is indeed a strong card and I used to run him, but as explained in the "Sideboard choices for difficult match-ups" section: Gifted Aetherborn is slightly better because you want to use these guys against aggressive decks. 1 CMC difference overall is a big thing in Modern, and this is particularly true versus aggressive decks. One might argue Vampire Nighthawk has flying, which is strong mechanic, but once you have Vampire Nocturnus running, you're not missing anything at all.
1 week ago
Now this is a really well tweaked tribal deck. +1 from me for sure. As you don't play any threedrops at all (except the two dismember in your sideboard), I assume you did this on purpose? Otherwise, some Vampire Nighthawk might be a possbile addition.
1 week ago
Chuff_Bucket, thanks for the suggestions!
In the limited playtesting I've done so far, Tymna has actually been a good enough source of card draw on her own, but I'm going to add Painful Truths and Promise of Power as they fit in the theme of the deck and are efficient.
I've always found the Soul Sisters to be underwhelming in EDH, personally. But I am looking to add a few cheaper creatures like Scavenging Ooze, Aerial Responder and Vampire Nighthawk to the deck. Any suggestions on what big creatures to cut?