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Creature — Vampire Shaman
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
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Vampire Nighthawk Discussion
4 days ago
Hello there! Thanks for the feedback!
First of all, sorry if it's not the PM, I just can't manage to find the private chat here, all I see is the wall (the interface is not to friendly for me).
Secondly, my currency and budget. The currency is ruble and the current exchange rate is 64,92 R for 1$US. Not so friendly as well :D I buy cards from local sellers who sell cards at the exchange rate about 40-45 R for 1$ with price usually taken from starcitygames. So I'm ready to spend, say, 50$ more to get my deck killing!
Thirdly, the cards and deckbuilding!Yes, I've heard about the rule of 9x4.The thing is - I don't have all 4 copies of all the cards I'd like to have in my starting hand (because of both shortage of some cards at local market and their prices). The other thing is - some of the cards I'd like to play are legendary and I don't really need 4 copies of each of them since I can't put a copy because of the rule of legends. But I agree that I should have at least more than 1. 9 favourite cards... Okay, I'll try to list them and note how much copies of it have to make the wishful deck correlate with the current set of cards.So...Ajani's Pridemate 4 Athreos, God of Passage 1 Cliffhaven Vampire 3 Drana's Emissary 4 Ghost Council of Orzhova 2 +Obzedat, Ghost Council 1 (I guess you could count them as one but it's a great help if I could have them both at the battlefield because although similar, they have a different name and mana cost)Vampire Nighthawk 3 Sanguine Bond 1. So... we have 8, right? I would totally like to have Exquisite Blood working with Sanguine Bond, but I don't have it yet, it's hard to find and expensive.So let's have Path of Bravery 2 at number 9.
Also I've just got some sweet land cards like Mirrodin's Core, Forsaken Sanctuary, Mage-Ring Network, Haunted Fengraf and Vault of the Archangel and sweet artifacts like Staff of the Death Magus, Staff of the Sun Magus, Profane Memento, Prism Ring and Alhammarret's Archive.What do you think? What could fit?
6 days ago
Yesterday I started brainstorming up a deck - mono black control, based around Demons. What are you guys favorite/opinions on best demons? Most of the ones I added to the deck are more straight forward, based around creature control. The short list of demons is as follows:
1x Griselbrand - this guy is the king of the deck, he's an obvious shoo-in in any self-respecting demon deck.
2x Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis - When he swings alone, the opponent sacrifices a creature, plus having Exalted. He's a fun critter.
2x Reaper from the Abyss - his Morbid ability allows you to get double the bang for your buck off Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis' ability, or the opponent trying to get a Desecration Demon off their back, or even when you destroy a creature with Victim of Night or Doomblade.
4x Desecration Demon - This is one tasty demon. I love it. 2BB for a 6/6 flyer? So the opponent can tap it by sacrificing a creature, but with me constantly removing their creatures, it's doubtful they'll be willing to sac their own FOR me. Even if they do, it gets +1/+1 bigger.
2x Rune-Scarred Demon - One of my favorite demons, I like to look at him as a 4/5 cost 6/6 flyer and a 2/3 cost Diabolic Tutor built into one. 7 is pricy, but I gladly pay it. Also, he's got some pretty wicked art, and he was one of the first demons I owned in Magic, so I'm attached.
I'm interested to see what demons you come up with in the comments.
This leaves me with early game strategy. Do I go with small 2/3 cmc utility creatures (something black is lacking compared to other colors) such as Hypnotic Specter, Geralf's Messenger, Gatekeeper of Malakir, or maybe Vampire Nighthawk? Or do I go full disruption/removal for early game with cards like Duress, Inquisition of Kozilek, and trusty Victim of Nights? I will also be running Hero's Downfall, to be reserved for bigger threats, and walkers. Sideboarding Damnation (even though it's like a $65 card) because it's such a beautiful card (I love the art) and the name goes with the theme of this deck (I'm a nerd), because who doesn't like wiping creatures without the chance of regeneration for 2BB? More to be moved into the deck in case I'm playing against an agrro deck, or I'm facing down a horde of tokens, etc.
1 week ago
I have updated the deck to include a preliminary sideboard and decided to maindeck 4 Fathom Feeder to help with exiling and being a late game mana sink. Current Sideboard:
1x Consuming Vapors - vs aggressive decks
3x Countersquall - vs control
2x Doom Blade - versatile removal
3x Duress - vs control and combo
3x Relic of Progenitus - graveyard hate
3x Vampire Nighthawk - vs aggro
1 week ago
Vampire Nighthawk, Gurmag Swiftwing, Fencing Ace, Elite Inquisitor, Akroan Skyguard, and Fiendslayer Paladin are all keyword heavy creatures for 3 or less mana that fit into a B/W deck. One of the Gideon planeswalkers would be solid as well, several have the ability to turn him into an Indestructible Soldier Creature, just activate the loyalty ability before your combat step so it gets picked up by Odric... Might be more user-friendly than Westvale Abbey Flip. I like the idea though.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
A key strategy to this deck since I don't run Viscera Seer, is the single Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I can sit on my fetches and tap them for mana, to force a shuffle for nocturnus, or for when I need to flash Bloodghast back into play. Bloodghast is resilient against non-white removal, and together with Mutavault means I'm not completely screwed by Supreme Verdict.
Gatekeeper of Malakir is imo the best vampire in the game. Walking Chainer's Edict on a 2/2 body with tribal support. With cavern he's an uncounterable removal. With Kalitas he's 3 cards for the price of one. Again, value.
2 weeks ago
I don't really get the restriction to 5CMC, because i can't see it actually doing anything to the format other than restricting bombs? That said, Bloodbraid Elf, Ascended Lawmage, and Invisible Stalker are probably the best generals in the format, with BBE and Stalker being banned in most groups. If you allow for commons as generals (my playgroup did) Orcish Lumberjack joins the top tier.
For something interesting that's not necessarily going to win you a lot of games, Springjack Shepherd, Garruk's Packleader(only because of the 5 mana restriction, without it it's a powerhouse), Azorius AEthermage, or basically any guildmage can be a good option.
You can also run basically anything with enough commons and an uncommon lord, or any available anthem effect, like the paragon cycle from m15 or Meadowboon, and run a tribal deck of whatever you want! (Stromkirk and drogskol captains are pretty good, from my understanding.)
3 weeks ago
So here comes my irritating critique of this deck, that has not been asked for...
Tribal decks gain value thanks to the fact that they play creatures of one tribe, so they all can be buffed. Playing things like Birds of Paradise & Elves of Deep Shadow, just throws all the benefits out of the window.
Playing cheap vampires instead of them would mean that if they survive to mid/late game they would get buffed by tribal lords. (and God forbid - they would actually help in flipping of Bloodline Keeper Flip) I think i cannot state strongly enough how bad idea is this, they are basically dead cards.
And then Captivating Vampire...
There is no reason whatsoever to play this atrocious thing outside mono black.
It is not a worse Stromkirk Captain, its a worse Bad Moon, that is easier to remove, and costs 1 more. Don't compare it to the captain, that card's main virtue is granting first strike, this "thing" at best can be one of the worst win more effects modern has seen. Maybe its not the worst, but its definietly a contender.
(and then add the fact that we run the mana dorks, thus diminishing its value)
Why is running 9 fetches justified, in a deck with 4 basic land? do we want to lose to burn that badly?
Because 3 Vampire Nighthawks are sure as hell not going to save the day, in themselves.
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet preforms best in decks with a LOT of removal, where its a token factory with a decent lifelinker body. In a vampire tribal deck focused on creatures i don't see why it should be played over Blade of the Bloodchief - since the latter is lot harder to remove with mainboard cards in most decks. (while vampire cards with lifelink are not unheard of for lot smaller cmc)