Creature — Vampire Shaman
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
Lifelink (Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
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Vampire Nighthawk Discussion
1 hour ago
So here comes my irritating critique of this deck, that has not been asked for...
Tribal decks gain value thanks to the fact that they play creatures of one tribe, so they all can be buffed. Playing things like Birds of Paradise & Elves of Deep Shadow, just throws all the benefits out of the window.
Playing cheap vampires instead of them would mean that if they survive to mid/late game they would get buffed by tribal lords. (and God forbid - they would actually help in flipping of Bloodline Keeper Flip) I think i cannot state strongly enough how bad idea is this, they are basically dead cards.
And then Captivating Vampire...
There is no reason whatsoever to play this atrocious thing outside mono black.
It is not a worse Stromkirk Captain, its a worse Bad Moon, that is easier to remove, and costs 1 more. Don't compare it to the captain, that card's main virtue is granting first strike, this "thing" at best can be one of the worst win more effects modern has seen. Maybe its not the worst, but its definietly a contender.
(and then add the fact that we run the mana dorks, thus diminishing its value)
Why is running 9 fetches justified, in a deck with 4 basic land? do we want to lose to burn that badly?
Because 3 Vampire Nighthawks are sure as hell not going to save the day, in themselves.
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet preforms best in decks with a LOT of removal, where its a token factory with a decent lifelinker body. In a vampire tribal deck focused on creatures i don't see why it should be played over Blade of the Bloodchief - since the latter is lot harder to remove with mainboard cards in most decks. (while vampire cards with lifelink are not unheard of for lot smaller cmc)
3 hours ago
I could go on citing examples if you like. Vampire Nighthawk is a weird example to cite anyway because if you're not up against an especially aggressive deck, he forces stalemates like no tomorrow paired with Stromkirk Captain.
I guess my point is "removal exists" isn't a reason to not play permanents.
14 hours ago
Dies to removal is a fantastic argument in all but 3 cases.
- The creature that died cost the same as the removal.
- The creature achieved something significant before it could be removed (strong ETB)
- The creature had to be removed otherwise it would single handedly win the game with no further cards cast.
Vampires do not fall into any of these categories. They cost a reasonable amount of mana, they generally do not have ETBs and none of them are single-handed game winners bar Olivia.
In order to understand modern you need to understand tempo, and the first general rule of that is that if your opponent can answer your plays for less mana than it took you to make them then you will lose. Likewise if you can achieve your goals in the game for less mana than it takes for the opponent to prevent you then you will win. For example, losing a Vampire Nighthawk to a Lightning Bolt is a huge problem on T3 because you "wasted" 2 mana. The opponent can then respond with their own threat such as a Tarmogoyf which then puts the pressure on your to respond. If the game continues like this you'll always be behind.
Its important to understand why "dies to removal" is a really crucial part of this game.
2 days ago
You may want to try Vampire Nighthawk and Stromkirk Captain. Stromkirk Captain has great synergy in any vampire deck, and Nighthawk is just plain strong. I love playing rakdos vampires, and I have my own deck on my page if you want to check it out for some direction or to give me some help!
3 days ago
Great deck! Here are my recommendations Desecration Demon, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Nightveil Spectre? (<- sux against lightning bolt). I would not play 3 Lili's and 2 Phyrexian Arena. That seems like overkill. Maximum I would play 4 Lili's and that's it. 2 Fulminator Mage mainboard is OK if you like them. 1 Grave Titan would be OK. You really want to play 4 Blood Crypt and 4 Blackcleave Cliffs. Vampire Nighthawk is AMAZING if you are not up against Lightning Bolt. Phyrexian Obliterator<- on of the best black creatures ever printed. For card draw you want 4 Dark Confidant
Whip of Erebos is good for grindy matchups
Lifebane Zombie for the sideboard
4 days ago
I'll try out the Vampire Nighthawk then. Got enough burn to justify a bit of lifelink to stall out. Fulminator Mage seemed slow even against Tron if you aren't going first. Would you play Ghost Quarter aswell (or 1 of each or none)?
5 days ago
Thanks, frostdiggity and Izu_Korasu for the feedback and suggestions! I thought about Blood Artist, but I don't think there's a enough sac in the deck to make the life exchange strong enough to take up a 2CMC creature slot, especially with the weak body.
I considered Desecration Demon before, but I wasn't convinced it was scary enough. I'll try it out in some test games. I think I'd still get more mileage out of a Vampire Nighthawk than Gatekeeper of Malakir. Geth's Verdict is already in the sideboard.
Beyond that, I try to avoid having too many big spells in most my decks because I plan on winning by T5 or so. My goal with this deck is come out swinging with hard fast hits.
6 days ago
High Priest of Penance, Reassembling Skeleton, Syndic of Tithes, Basilica Screecher, Thrull Parasite, Tithe Drinker, Underworld Coinsmith, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Animate Dead, Wing Shards. Return to Dust, Darksteel Mutation, Falkenrath Noble, Sunscorch Regent, Vampire Nighthawk, Contemplation,
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|Duel Decks: Zendikar vs Eldrazi||Uncommon|
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