Griselbrand

Griselbrand

Legendary Creature — Demon

Flying, lifelink

Pay 7 life: Draw seven cards.

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Set Rarity
Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3) Mythic Rare
Avacyn Restored (AVR) Mythic Rare
Promo Set (000) Mythic Rare

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Legality

Format Legality
Block Constructed Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Highlander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Modern Legal
Unformat Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Legacy Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Leviathan Legal

Griselbrand occurrence in decks from the last year

Legacy:

All decks: 0.44%

Modern:

All decks: 0.06%

Griselbrand Discussion

TonyStark9001 on What would you change (if ...

2 weeks ago

Griselbrand and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and probably a few others should be unbanned.

commander damage shouldn't exist. in a 4 person game, that's basically 4 total separate damage/life counters each person has to use. the first being their actual life total, and the other 3 being the damage dealt by each opponents commander. i already use 2 life counters in modern because people try to cheat, so i don't want to use 16 in a 4 person commander game.

i can definitely agree with planeswalkers as commanders since most wouldn't even be good. the most amount of colors in any planeswalker is 3, and i myself strongly prefer a 5c deck to open up as many options as possible.

banned as commander is another reasonable change. sure Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary is a bit nuts as a commander (enough so that i would run mono green in a heartbeat since its my favorite color, despite my aforementioned preference to 5c decks) but in the 99 its not really a big deal.

DuTogira on What cards deserve to be ...

2 weeks ago

TypicalTimmy While I agree with your analysis of Iona, Shield of Emeria, I absolutely disagree with your analysis of Vilis, Broker of Blood vs Griselbrand.
Vilis requires either mana or another card to provide life loss in order to get the draw engine going. Griselbrand is the entire engine all in one card. That makes Griselboi waaaay more busted than vilis because it completely eliminates the need for any other middle-man resource. Also life means nothing in commander, so Griselbrand more accurately reads "Spend 8, draw your deck" while vilis reads "Spend 8 and then find a way to lose a bunch of life, draw your deck". That extra step makes all the difference.

TypicalTimmy on What cards deserve to be ...

2 weeks ago

I firmly believe that there are cards that absolutely should be banned, if they directly cause a player to be unable to play by virtue of it alone. For example, Iona, Shield of Emeria is justly and rightfully banned as, if you sit down at a table with a mono-green player and you choose green, you've now told that player to go eat a big salty bag of poo. Nobody wants to eat salty poo. Get out of here with that nonsense.

Other cards, such as Griselbrand, I think should be unbanned. Look, you have 40 life. If you want to spend 7 of it on card advantage... hey by all means go right ahead. I can spend 7 life on Necropotence and get just as many. Grissly is easier to remove. Yes, sure I know he has lifelink... but also consider that if you are cocky enough to run him as your Commander, you're looking at 8 mana to bring out, and 10 once he is killed. That is some serious raw dedication and, again, the ire of the table will course-correct for this. Again, I can spend all of my life on Vilis, Broker of Blood for card advantage. Hell, I personally think Vilis is even WORSE. Lands such as Prismatic Vista and Verdant Catacombs now do the following:

  • You played a land for the turn, keeping you on curve
  • You tutored a card from your library, shifting the odds and percentages in your favor as you now have fewer "duds" to draw into
  • You just drew a card... for sac'ing a land to tutor the Swamp

Okay sure, 1 card is whatever. Until you build a deck that runs...

There is also Westvale Abbey  Flip but this doesn't produce mana or tutor lands, however it does put bodies on the field.

Not to mention 3x cards just because you lost a flip to Mana Crypt.

In my opinion, Vilis, Broker of Blood is far more broken than Griselbrand. However, neither of these are oppressive.

Iona, Shield of Emeria unquestionably is, because you're not going to look around the table and go "Hmm... nobody is playing red... I guess I'll pick that color.", no you will look around the table and go "Well, two opponents are using blue... BLUE!"

Femme_Fatale on Synonyms/Nicknames System for Deckbuilding and ...

1 month ago

Introducing the synonyms/nicknames system to alleviate all those "wtf was that one land of that one cycle named?" problems that plague you.

This system is simple. It is designed to redirect terms that you typed out that match a synonym/nickname of a card, to that card name. This lets you never have to remember the name "Seachrome Coast" and can instead just type out "WU Fastland" (as an example). Note that this only works in text edit entries on deck lists and inventory, not the live edit or the card search forms.

There is a lot of other things that are utilised here as well.

  • Godzilla Names
  • Non-American Spellings
  • Common Nicknames
  • Common Misspellings
  • Redirections of Misspelled Submissions
  • Each side of a split card as a synonym (unless they already exist as a card).

Not needing to know the name of each card in a land/artifact cycle is a big boon, but you still need to know the nickname of that cycle and the syntax. For lands/mana rocks/the swords of X and Y at the present moment it is always "XY Nickname" or "YX Nickname". Examples:

  • WU Fastland
  • GR BFZ
  • GW ABUR Dual Land
  • BW Fetch

For 2 colour lands, it is always the two colour letters, followed by the nickname, and then followed by the option to have the world land either connected to the nickname or not. (these are all viable options for example: "WU Fast", "UW Fastland", "UW Fast Land".) For 3 colour lands, it is only the primary order of colour letters you see on cards, or the Alara/Khans name. (WUB Lair, Mardu Triome as examples.) Swords and other artifact cycles follow the same setup (though swords can also be "Sword of GB" or "Sword of G and B"), and mono colour land cycles use the same setup just with only one letter. Note that none of these are plural, so don't put that s in. Colourless cards that are a part of a cycle use C/Colorless/Colourless.

Some of these cycles don't have well defined names yet (like BBD) and some of these cycles have had too many names that people constantly fight over so there was no point in bothering to put them all in and instead I just used the TLA (specifically BFZ).

Goals:

The primary purpose of this is to make the ability to tag cards and edit decks/inventory far more robust than what it has been. Tappedout doesn't presently have a spellchecker, and to be fair most sites don't. It's not an easy feature to implement. So with this synonyms/nicknames feature, we can alleviate some of those aggravations of misspellings or different ways to spell a word by making them valid targets and redirecting them to the right card name. Another benefit of this is the ability to give cards shorthands or nicknames when the community largely doesn't remember the actual name of a card, just their shorthand. We have all been hit with "wtf is that land's name again?" when we know for a fact that it's just "the blue and white shadows over innistrad reveal land". This saves the step of having to open up a search engine to figure out the card name, and in general speeds up and makes the process of building decks and inventory, a lot more enjoyable.


Cycles that currently have nicknames: Show

A lot of the cycle synonyms are meant to intuitive and robust so that you won't even have to think about knowing what the exact written synonym actually is and still be able to get it right on the first try, though it will take time to reach a point in which this is 100% true. As an example of scope, each recognized nickname for a cycle creates 6 entries for each given card in that cycle. So the AKH lands have 30 entries for each card in that cycle, resulting in a total of 150 entries. The Triomes have the same amount, but if I were to add each individual string combination of the colour letters (WUB, BUW, WBU etc) then that count would increase by 45 for each entry, resulting 75 entries for each one, totalling at 375 entries for the whole cycle.


Nicknames will usually be things like "Snappy", "Bolt", "Path", "Bob", "FoW", etc. They are to be commonly used by the larger community as a whole, not what your FNM/play group exclusively uses (though this isn't a hard set in stone as I'm not omniscient).

Here's a list of nicknames that I have. Show

I have about 200+ cards of non-American spellings added as synonyms in this site, however I'm certain there's like, 5x that much I've missed. If you notice a non-american spelling I do not have in, let me know.

Here's a list of things that is in the works to do. Show

Limitations:

A card can have any number of synonyms/nicknames. But only one synonym/nickname can be tied to a card. So if a new card/land cycle gets printed that has covers a misspelling (like an UNcard might) or has that nickname as it's actual card name, those synonyms will get removed (as an example, Snapcaster Mage cannot have Snap as a nickname). We are also looking to limit the amount of times a synonym has to get removed so nicknames of cards during their presence in the standard formats are not likely to be put in, as they become forgotten or even re-used when they rotate out. These are also done manually so sometimes a change might just take a while to do if it encompasses a large number of cards or a large number of synonyms.. We also won't be going through alternate language as possible synonyms because WotC doesn't nearly double check duplicate card names for foreign languages as well as they do for English cards.

This is not something on the card submission form, so it is not available to edit for any user.

If you know of something missing like common misspellings or common non-American spellings that will be needed, or cycle syntaxes that you tried to use but didn't work, post them here and I'll review them for possible inclusion in the future.

EDIT: Before you ask for a nickname etc to be added:

  1. Check if it exists first by trying it out.
  2. Check if the larger community recognizes it, this is done by going around discords, lgs' and other forums about that nickname.
  3. Check if it has any nsfw, discriminatory or derogatory terminology, we straight up will not allow these.

This isn't a system for your pet nickname that your local playgroup uses. This is a system that can utilize nicknames that naturally grew organically out of continued use from the larger mtg community as a whole. This isn't a "which nicknames do you think this system could use" but rather "which nicknames that are used across the world that we have missed".

Destroyerbirb on Revelation 17:8

2 months ago

You should swap some cards out for a Griselbrand. He is a powerhouse in reanimation strategies.

varage on My first deck, bones of treachery

4 months ago

Chart a Course ! Of course ! Thank you, this make the deck run way quicker ! Griselbrand look to be a nice add, but at the time i would be able to play it from my graveyard, i do hope i would rather be able to play my Agent of Treachery. Thought Scour is obviously a card i'll consider adding..

Thank you Daron6, that's of great help to me :)

Daron6 on My first deck, bones of treachery

4 months ago

Griselbrand, Thought Scour, Goryo's Vengeance, Fatal Push and Chart a Course are my suggestions. I recommend u to replace Blue for Red if you are looking for a reanimator deck ;D.

xtechnetia on Sheldon From The RC is ...

4 months ago

I don't think Flash was ever banned previously. Protean Hulk was, but if you're only going to ban one of the two, Flash is undoubtedly the superior choice.

Anyways, the primary reason to be against a Flash ban is that it sets what is a troubling precedent for some players: the RC banning on competitive grounds (and really only competitive grounds), making EDH more like every other format in existence.

Every non-rotating constructed format in existence, over time, trends towards increased speed, efficiency, and consistency. Your sweet 20 mana 6 card combo that takes 5 turns to setup is assuredly brutally outclassed by something like (Legacy example) Swamp -> Dark Ritual -> Entomb -> Reanimate Griselbrand.

EDH is the one notable format which sort of holds this trend at bay thanks to various factors, which is a large reason for its continued popularity. And banning Flash, to some players, says that the RC acknowledges competitive EDH and will perhaps continue to ban with them in mind, potentially fucking with casual decks in the process (like right now I'm sure someone out there has some janky Flash->Arena Rector superfriends deck that they would really appreciate holding onto).

This isn't to say I personally am against a Flash ban, this is just me trying to explain why a Flash ban could be considered troubling.

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