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Helm of Awakening Discussion
2 weeks ago
@freakingShane, I agree with Sgtpopnfreash and demonicgrizzly: Basically this deck (unintuitively) isn't an artifact deck and doesn't put a lot of permanents into play, generally. I don't think storm fits into the current plan. That'd be a different plan. You could build Breya that way; with a lot more rocks and a Paradoxical Outcome, a Helm of Awakening and a Aetherflux Reservoir but that's a different deck. As Sgtpopnfreash and demonicgrizzly point out, they're both combo-cards. They're not real good under most situations, you have to be about to win or have a huge board state. In general you want to keep cards like that to a minimum.
Although, I could be wrong, but I don't think Paradoxical Outcome is played in a single competitive EDH deck; not that it couldn't be, but just that it's win-more in decks that try to storm and doesn't quite fit into other lists.
If you want to look at a more artifact-heavy build of Breya, maybe check out Breya Dramatic Paradox, which... looks to me like it includes a lot of terrible and tempo-wasting artifacts, but... I haven't actually played it.
2 weeks ago
Paradoxical Outcome is only good in the most hard core storm decks. You could add Helm of Awakening and a storm package to Breya, Etherium Shaper but this deck is more focused on infinite colored mana combos to use her as a win condition not just for colors.
2 weeks ago
I was looking at my deck versus yours (which mine is very close to yours, because your deck is built extremely well) and I was wondering why my deck was almost 3x more expensive. Then I saw how the dual lands are only displaying their TIX price, haha.
Anyway, the main reason I am here is to ask what your thoughts on Paradoxical Outcome and/or Helm of Awakening. Both of which have been pretty huge in Yidris builds, and since Breya is somewhat of a glass-cannon I was wondering if this could be a nice little contingency package.
At the very minimum, Paradoxical Outcome draws you a ton of cards and can make all your rocks tap for even more mana.
With Helm almost every rock would be free or 1, generating even more mana.
And lastly, if you wanted you could add a little storm kit in here, maybe?
Just a thought, but really curious what you think of it. Thanks!
1 month ago
The reason I don't have cards like Manamorphose and Gamble in this deck is they are both rather expensive and I am doing my best to keep it very budget friendly. I do agree Manamorphose would be good though. I really like Bedlam Reveler, I was looking for something in case a fizzle started and I think that will do the trick. Would you replace Helm of Awakening with Locket of Yesterdays or use both? @DiscardDecard
1 month ago
@VelvetVendetta The two combos I run, while they look slow, are actually terrific. I just added a section on "win conditions" to address this.
Basically, the two win conditions I have really overperformed. I thought they'd be weak, and I spent time looking for other wincons, but I now think you don't need them. Having less dead cards (like redundant or tertiary wincons) also makes the whole deck better, by increasing the amount of interaction and business the deck packs. I mean, what are we at here, 3 total dead cards? That's insane.
But, I think the fastest wincons I've seen are Demonic Consultation + Laboratory Maniac, at 2 cards and 4 total mana is pretty good, and it's pretty hard to disrupt. That also has overlap and synergy with Doomsday. I also like Ad Nauseam + Phyrexian Unlife / Angel's Grace, although there again you probably want to use Lab Man for the actual win (although people have suggested Sickening Dreams and even Repay in Kind, but that seems horrible.) I don't think you want to go with infinite mana combos like Dramatic Reversal and Isochron Scepter or Lion's Eye Diamond and Auriok Salvagers. I'm not sure. The other interesting wincon in Zur is the artifact-storm one with Hurkyl's Recall, Helm of Awakening, and Aetherflux Reservoir. But, that's pretty hard to assemble.
Not sure what's best.
2 months ago
quite an interesting budget deck here.
interesting also because there are some strange parts about it. why labman when not doomsday? i dont want to say with this you should run dd. in fact i think your deck is not equiped enough to make good use out of dd. you miss Lions Eye Diamond, dark petition and urborg, tomb of yawgmoth to get easy access to BBB mana. also your landsbase is subotimal and thus gush wouldnt be as efficient as it should be. to sum it up no dd but maybe a better card than LabMan. labman will only win for you if you exile the whole deck. now if your only way to do that is going for infinite with mind's desire as its rare to get there manually then why not run tendrils instead of labman! dramatic scepter combo in a thrasios deck is a 2 card combo but here you need an actual outlet in your hand so if mind's desire is in hand you need a card that wins. aetherflux does so allready. tendrils would fit here as a backup but wins with dramatik scepter combo too wich labman doesnt. i know you could necro away your library or wheel multiple times a turn with notion thief in play are alternate routes but you get the picture. tendrils just supports the manual stomr plan way better than labman. tendrils also got the upside of mini draining after adNaus then with kess replay adNaus and finish the table at the second wave.
why dont you play Night's Whisper, Helm of Awakening and Past in Flames? they are all really good cards. Dark Petition also urges me that you dont play it. its extra good when going for a mini mind's desire. a demonic tutor and a dark ritual. its also great with baral and i like it with intuition alot. intuition for dark petition, cabal ritual and past in flames can be a big midgame bomb. i see you pilot kess but really do you allways want to cast her?
there are several things affected by your budget wich include lands and some of the better mana-rocks. because of this your high tide package is worse. also your chain of vapor wont as often be a ritual like hurkyll's recall often is used. basically resulting in a weaker midgame-manaengine. thus i would look at other options to help boost your mana. Rain of Filth might only be good during combo turn but its atleast powerfull there.
additionally you could opt about changing some of your control into Remand and/or Unsubstantiate to increase density for abusing storm. you can bounce your mind's desire to replay it after your strom copies resolve.
keep on storming
2 months ago
I was thinking about this card and which of my decks I might add it to.
The first obvious choice is The Locust God. It draws cards, pumps the insects, and acts as a second Helm of Awakening in the HoA + Sensei's Divining Top + Future Sight infinite combo. The only 'walker it would screw with is Jace, the Mind Sculptor
I really want it for my new Kozilek, Butcher of Truth deck, but again it screws w my own 'walkers (karn + ugin)
It's a bit of a casual allstar that can change the tides in long grindy games. I'm sure it will find a home in at least one of my decks
2 months ago
So Dack Fayden seems to be an obvious weak card. I changed him to Time Spiral for a little and didnt like that then I changed him to Future Sight because it works well with storm and Necropotence and is much better to cast after an Ad Nauseam than Time Spiral, it also combos with Sensei's Divining Top and Helm of Awakening. What so you think?