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At the beginning of each player's upkeep, Primal Order deals damage to that player equal to the number of nonbasic lands he or she controls.
Primal Order Discussion
2 months ago
This is a sweet deck with a solid explanation behind it! +1
I've never heard or seen Ritual of Subdual before. That card is HAWT, even with cumulative upkeep. And I TOTALLY forgot about Mana Reflection as a mono-green option for mana doubling. Both of those cards will have to eventually make it in my Seton deck.
I also totally get why you run the big boy Eldrazis. They're too much for me to invest in right now so I went a bit of a different direction with mine. Although I do own Decimator of the Provinces , and was thinking of putting it in. What do you think of that card?
I don't see many more changes but for the sake of brainstorming let me give it a crack... I'd say for additional ramp (again not that you need it, your deck is dope) what are your thoughts on Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip or the new Nissa, Who Shakes the World ? I run both of those, but I also don't have Mana Reflection , Extraplanar Lens , or Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger like you.
I just recently took out Terastodon for Rampage of the Clans seems way better to me in the event I need to hate on more artifacts or enchantments which is almost always the case. However, it can hurt me, so I can already see your counterpoint about keeping good ol' Terry since it's controlled target removal.
The way I try to win is by going wide with my druids, so I NEED to put in Steely Resolve and Asceticism . They've been on my list for a long time. But anyway, since I go wide I find insane value in Nemesis Mask and Bloodscent . You probably wouldn't need to entertain the thought of using those though. Both pair up nicely with Bow of Nylea ...
Beast Whisperer is great draw.
Some funky enchantment "control" cards I run Primal Order (everyone in my meta runs non-basics) and Hum of the Radix , which I realize can hurt me but I intend to have more mana to use than my opponents. There's also Helix Pinnacle (which I don't have yet but plan on getting) and Quest for Renewal which I just put in.
Anyway, again, sweet deck which I would say is easily better than my version of Seton but I hope I may have suggested a card or two for you to think about! If you end up checking mine out, please feel free to give any and all suggestions you have including cards you think are straight-up not good. I'm all ears!
3 months ago
Hellooooooo! I play Seton as a commander too! I like your deck list.
I’ll see if I can help you out. Feel free to give me feedback on mine as well (I feel like it still needs to be refined a bit). My version.
As far as boardwipes go I’m running All Is Dust , Setessan Tactics by itself or with Natural Affinity to destroy some lands as you aspire to do. Green Kamahl or Jolrael, Empress of Beasts help in this regard as well—and I see you are already running Kamahl. There’s also Oblivion Stone or a really janky option with Boompile . I’m also running Cyclone since mana is usually not a problem and this deals damage to each player as well which I like. And then there’s Back to Nature , Bane of Progress , Seeds of Innocence and Rampage of the Clans for artifact and enchantment wipes.
I just put a Paradox Engine in and I cant wait to see how it works.
Obviously no need to accept all of my suggestions but definitely stuff for you to think about. I personally need a Gilt-Leaf Archdruid for my deck still.
1 year ago
After looking at your deck, this aggro approach seems very doable and nasty, but theres a handful of cards I see that just shouldn't be included. Nature's Spiral is just a worse Regrowth, so that's a start. I see with all of the artifact removal that stax is an issue for you. Bane of Progress is a great addition to solve this, but i would take out one of your removal spells for Nature's Claim. You don't care about their life gain when elves can smash for 100+ damage. Another great way to give a stax deck the middle finger is Creeping Corrosion. The card rarely hurts you and gives them a hell of a time. Krosan Grip is a fantastic card that also helps in this situation. For these 3 excuses to shit on rocks, I'd at least take out Sundering Vitae and Natural End. Nullmage Shepherd is a fantastic elf to throw in your deck to solve this issue as well. Hum of the Radix is also a fun little card for artifact decks that no one will expect you to drop. If you need enchantment removal, just throw in Back to Nature and you'll be fine. If you're having a hard time with killing creatures, run Taunting Elf, or just run it anyways if you can regenerate it and hit people for free every turn. Aluren will help your elfball rolling, and running Primal Rage will help make sure that even when Ezuri is gone that you get your damage through. Talara's Battalion was a cool card I experimented with in my deck, and it did quite a bit of damage. I would definitely include Marwyn for her beefy presence and massive mana ramp. Something like Predator's Rapport is just not useful, as gaining life tends to be some of the most useless magic cards unless you're running a deck that focuses on it. Instead I would try to tutor for a card like Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen, Nissa Revane, Wellwisher, or Essence Warden which help a lot more with solving this problem. Triumph of the Hordes is a great meme to drop on your opponents in a tough situation, as it gives you a nice little one shot, or at least eats through indestructibly and "prevent all damage" creatures. Most of the artifacts you run arent necessary, so I would just replace them with lands. While you have an extremely low mana curve, 28 lands is very dangerous with no rocks. Unless you add some very fancy $$$ rocks (which if you dont wanna drop 1k on artifacts), I would just run some more forests. Primal Order was a neat card I haven't seen in a while, and I think that can prove very useful in your deck if you're having a hard time getting through to other opponents running decks with multiple colors. If you want to stick with the aggro theme, I would add a Coat of Arms, since by the time you hit turn five you'll have about 4-5 elves, and this can turn 7 damage into 50. The risk of helping your opponents is worth it. Selvala, Heart of the Wilds is actually insane in this deck, and if your opponent draws a card or two off of it, nobody is gonna care. She can give you a ridiculous amount of mana with Ezuri pumps and elves like Drove of Elves. Concordant Crossroads is an absolute necessity if your goal is aggro. This card hurts sometimes, especially if your opponent has a creature-heavy deck. The payoff is huge though when you drop mana dorks with haste or drop your hand on the field, tap your Priest of Titania for a crazy amount, and have Ezuri pummel everyone with your hasty elves. As for mana doublers, you can run whatever you'd like, although I would say you don't need any of them for the deck to work: they're just a waste of a turn. Over all the others, I would run Mana Reflection so that your elves can tap for double as well as anything else. Overall, this deck is pretty solid, and with a few tweaks it could be an unstoppable force! Let me know if you need any other suggestions on anything else (:
1 year ago
Some cards I found:
Harmless Offering is a colorshifted Donate, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs could be white, Molten Influence is a "counterspell" in red, Measure of Wickedness should be probably red, Dragonmaster Outcast is a creature that rewards your ramp and I feel he could be green, Stromgald Spy looks at target player's hand and could be blue, Treacherous Urge, Enslave and Ritual of the Machine are threaten/control magic effects in black, The Great Aurora and Ezuri's Predation are wraths in green, Bellowing Tanglewurm has a black keyword, Curse of the Swine is mass removal with exile in blue, Primal Order is direct damage in green, Mana Vortex and Land Equilibrium are land destruction in blue, Web of Inertia is a strange pillowfort card and graveyard hoser in blue, Concordant Crossroads gives haste in green (???), Oath of Lieges ramps in white, Spoils of War gives +1/+1 counters in black, Touch of Darkness is colorshifting in black, Infernal Genesis gives everybody tokens in black, Countryside Crusher should probably be Golgari, Mana Flare is a mana doubler in red (????), Dreams of the Dead is creature recursion in blue, Reality Twist is ???, Imprisoned in the Moon is straight up removal in blue, Icy Prison is a political Oblivion Ring in blue, Not Forgotten is a green effect, Stunted Growth discards cards from opponent's hand in green...
1 year ago
I've seen a couple of those before, MagicalHacker, namely Hall of Gemstone and Grip of Chaos, but Primal Order looks like a sweet card against all these 5-color and Atraxa, Praetors' Voice decks in my meta, especially since I don't want to buy a Blood Moon. Also, Ritual of the Machine is like the black Mana Tithe- no one expects Mind Control from the mono black deck!
1 year ago
In my decks, the cards that haven't been printed since the modern frame that I had never seen played before I found them to put them in my deck are Caverns of Despair, Grip of Chaos, Hall of Gemstone, Holistic Wisdom, Primal Order, Titania's Song, Hunting Grounds, Ritual of the Machine, Steal Enchantment, Aura Thief, and Thalakos Deceiver.
1 year ago
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