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Citadel of Pain
At the end of each player's turn, Citadel of Pain deals X damage to that player, where X is the number of untapped lands he or she controls.
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Citadel of Pain Discussion
1 month ago
Great looking deck! I like how you've combined themes. Here are some ideas on what I would change to make this even more awesome:
though all of the creatures you're using work very well with your chosen themes, most of them are rather expensive to cast. This makes it difficult for you to deal with decks that open aggressively; also because the wipes you've chosen are relatively expensive to cast. To counteract early aggression, I would consider adding Propaganda, Pyrohemia, Fiery Confluence and/or Volcanic Fallout.
Since you're running so many 'pain' cards, it might be beneficial to consider adding Neheb, the Eternal; the extra mana he generates can surely be put to good use in your deck.
Hope any of this helps. If you feel inclined, please have a look at one of more of my EDH decks; I'd like your opinion on any of them.
3 months ago
+1 Cool list, some of the one time burn creatures may be a little under powered in a 40 life format though.
I run a Mogis, God of Slaughter deck that runs pretty quick, might be worth a look if you like this play style.
Some mono red all stars in my deck are Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs to keep people from swinging at you when you piss them off, Viashino Heretic for removal and more burn, and more punish enchantments like Manabarbs, Burning Earth, Spellshock and Citadel of Pain. Any of those I think would slot in nicely to this list.
4 months ago
Nice deck list. I've been looking at making a Kaervek punish deck since I've turned my old Rakdos suicide deck into a tribal demon deck. Some of my favorite cards form that deck were Manabarbs, Citadel of Pain, Havoc Festival, Sulfuric Vortex, Spellshock, Planar Chaos, Storm Cauldron, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Ankh of Mishra, Angel's Trumpet, Mass Hysteria, Grand Melee, Avatar of Slaughter, Avarice Amulet, Spiteful Visions, Seizan, Perverter of Truth, Temple Bell, Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, Geier Reach Sanitarium. I love Toxic Deluge in my suicide deck as a board wipe. If you're looking for more pay life to kill creatures there's also Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Slaughter, Hellfire, and Ashes to Ashes as well as Repay in Kind which helps brings opponent down to your level after hurting yourself. Possibility Storm could be a nice inclusion as well if it works the way I think it does with Kaervek. Opponent casts a spell and both Kaervek and Possibility Storm trigger, the spell gets exiled and if your opponent plays the other card with Possibility Storm then Kaervek will trigger again.
4 months ago
5 months ago
Citadel of Pain is far more like it for a counter control/resource control deck like this.
as far as alternatives/additions go; Adventurous Impulse, Broken Bond, Song of Freyalise (I have a foil, it's pretty af) , Sylvan Awakening, Damping Sphere, Helm of the Host (well worth a slot IMO), Memorial to Unity are ALL worth some serious consideration.
My top considerations would be sylvan awakening, helm of the host, and damping sphere.
Sylvan awakening should be obvious, helm gives mo 'nath lovin to go around (turns 3 damage into 12 after a single use with 4 damage instances off a single land drop and delegendized copy), and with this deck's tempo being often slow I feel that we should add another tax/tax-like effect to slow our opponents.
5 months ago
feyn_do_alduin, I am on the fence with War's Toll myself. I thought I would give it a try since I have had success with it in my Ruric Thar, the Unbowed deck. Another option I was looking at for that slot was Citadel of Pain. I am open to suggestions to replace War's Toll if there is anything that would be a better fit for controlling the controlling. Let me know what you think.
7 months ago
hey NV_1980 thanks for your input and your time. you are right, it is a slow deck but usually still ok in my 4 players+ semi-competetive meta. Harsh Mentor will find it's way in cutting Magmatic Force for it since it targets my opponents exclusively, Citadel of Pain and Repercussion were in back in the days but they sometimes harmed me more than helped my cause. in terms of wipes i like the Toxic Deluge suggestion since it synergizes with the deck idea of spending life to do stuff. global creature control currently in the deck include Chandra's Ignition, Decree of Pain, Pestilence, Pyrohemia, Archfiend of Depravity and Pestilence Demon but making room for some more makes sense.
thanks again for your input, i will surely drop by and have a look at your stuff.