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Personal Sanctuary Discussion
1 day ago
I said to use Comet Storm because it wins the game for you once you get infinite mana. It is redundant because you can win by any infinite-mana combo plus one burn-x spell, but since there are TONS of burn-x cards, you can put in multiple copies to have effectively 4-6 redundant combo pieces. Normal burn like Lightning Bolt is useless in cEDH, but infinite burn wins. For a "one combo, multiple paths", look at any cEDH Doomsday decks.
That is the only type of combo that matters in cEDH -- either completely lock out opponents for the rest of the game, or win the game immediately. To use a counterexample, your Personal Sanctuary + Wily Goblin + Pyrohemia combo is what's referred to as a "cute" combo: it's neat on paper and in casual, but in cEDH games it stinks because it doesn't win; all it does is kill weak creatures that true cEDH decks don't need by turn 5 (which is when you'd untap after casting Pyrohemia). You should be WINNING by turn 5 in cEDH, not just killing utility creatures.
Here's why the Lantern and its friends are bad: it costs 1 card (itself) and 5+ mana to use. Its benefit is putting a card into your library. That's pretty okay if you're going to do Sunforger shenanigans, but it's TERRIBLE for anything that's not an instant (such as the Gamble "combo"), because at that point there's no upside. Are you seriously hoping to shuffle your library and maybe draw the card you put onto the bottom of your library? That might work in casual, but it's a much weaker game plan in cEDH, when you could be spending that card and that mana on something like Vandalblast, which costs the same mana to overload, but I'd argue it is a much better use of mana. And that's just the first example I could think of. The Plains is good because it takes a land slot, not a spell slot, and can net-GAIN you mana as its worst case.
All the Fork things are bad, since they're only good if you have a good target and extra mana, at which point you should be winning already. Disrupt Decorum is fine, but is bad against combo decks (like most cEDH decks).
Void Winnower only affects your opponents.
You don't need anything to pull from exile. Why waste a card and a mana on re-buying a win condition when you could just play a second win condition? Also, there's no such thing as good lifegain in EDH unless it's part of an infinite combo -- as you said yourself, plain burn is bad in cEDH, and none of your opponents care about your life total when they're just going to win with Laboratory Maniac.
5 days ago
One of the most powerful mechanics you can play with aura's is simply hexproof.
Also, what does Personal Sanctuary do for you :/
1 month ago
Commander / EDH*
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And yes; the name was meant to be a shoutout to a Doctor Who episode that's a Tour de Force as well; though the Azbantium part might be a spoiler... X/
Before we start, I'd like to give out a shout out to DespairFaction for supporting this (albeit) even harder cause to do than Boros Stax.
According to him (I think...?), this kind of deck needs stuff to slowdown opponents before they get the upper hand. Since Firesong & Sunspeaker is known for Red Nonpermanent Lifegain via Burn, I wanted this to be the primary clause. Actually, all this time, my Prime Directive is to Promote Boros from its current highest tier from 3 to 2.5 at worst. To add upon the Red card idea, I do not want White stuff promoting Lifegain as it doesn't promote enough Burn in return. I already have quite a lot of X-Burn, but no other consistent burn as well. That said, bottom line: I would love to see stuff in Boros Colors that can lockdown certain strategies in cEDH. If you can find any, even if it's an Artifact, don't be afraid to post it in the link above.
1 month ago
@Suns_Champion: Tried to put in Generator Servant, but T/O database didn't recognize it for me. XP What I mean by the query was that there was one card/combo (Whichever it was.) that bypassed whatever ruling stuff like Spiritualize couldn't. But you'd have to halt the combo before you deck out while immolating foes, & gaining life; and when all foes lose before deck out, it's too late. BTW, I found this out via Reddit. A RW deck, in Commander as a whole, without Sunforger?! That might be an interesting idea... Considering your deck is "Casual" (Kind of...), right now it only seems fair to call this so far, "Core" (In-Between Casual & Hardcore.). I'll check the decks later. I have to pull off a Sorin Markov currently.
@DespairFaction: Hmmm... Cards that slowdown others... Well, Manabarbs might work with Personal Sanctuary, but what to use when it's not your turn? I'll see what to cut for Rule of Law; I got to add basic lands at some point... Alms Collector could easily shut down X Draws, I approve. I suppose Stranglehold does need an Avian Menace working for the God-Pharaoh to ally with...
Thanks guys. I'll see what I can do...
2 months ago
You should cut cards that do not contribute to the stax strategy or towards winning for cEDH:
Increase your land count to 28 at least
Try experimenting with Oath of Teferi/The Chain Veil + Felidar Guardian + Altar of the Brood and/or Tainted Pact + Laboratory Maniac as a way to win the game. I also like Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal combo in a stax build.
2 months ago
Actually, I won't get my life back after switching Lich to someone else. It gets cut. I wonder what else for win cons to get...
2 months ago
Sorry about the huge amass of Questions, so I'll be brief; Mental Misstep has Phyrexian Mana, so is it allowed that I pay 2 to use it before your first turn? Also, Stuff like Mana Vault/Mana Crypt deals damage, which can be prevented by stuff like Personal Sanctuary. For an Example, Ad Nauseam puts stuff in your hand at a cost of life, not damage. Is this also prevented by Personal Sanctuary?
Thanks in advance, & sorry for the mass amount of questions... :/
2 months ago
Hmmm... I wonder...
Well, as far as I know, some of the better decks in the subformat seem to comply to such a standard; unless some exceptions to the rule don't seem to require this. Is this what you're referring to? I wonder if stuff like Ad Nauseam would work with Personal Sanctuary...
Actually, Ad Nauseam doesn't count as damage. Unless I have to ask a second question in just 10min. Flat... :/