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Lightning Helix deals 3 damage to target creature or player and you gain 3 life.
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Lightning Helix Discussion
3 days ago
Hey. I like where you're trying to get to with the deck, but as far as the modern format goes, this deck will not line up well. Let's get into why for a little bit.
For starters, aggro decks want to be off the ground much faster than your deck is capable of. I would suggest you play around 12+ 1 mana creatures, to guarantee that you start off quick. Cards like Monastery Swiftspear, Champion of the Perish, Goblin Guide, Figure of Destiny, Judge's Familiar, Legion Loyalist, Rakdos Cackler, Stromkirk Noble, or Thraben Inspector could all be reasonable, depending how much you want to spend.
I would also take any cards that cost more than 3 mana out of the deck. You want to hit the ground fast, and kill them before they can react. I would also cut Renegade Map because doing that turn 1 in modern can make it impossible for you to ever applyu pressure for the rest of the game. I would find a way to put 4 Lightning Bolts and some number of Lightning Helixs in your deck, as well as going up to 4 Boros Charm. Path to Exile is also an excellent card, but runs a bit more money.
Here's an average of how many cards you may expect of each kind in the deck:
25-29 Creatures, 19-21 Lands, 9-11 Spells, 1-2 Enchantments
Hopefully this helped a little bit. I have been playing modern a while now, and like yourself, love deckbuilding.
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3 days ago
Impact Tremors has little impact (hahaha) when there are only 8 spells in your deck that would trigger it. Also, Devils' Playground is just awful. Waaaaaay too high-costed for a burn deck, and it only threatens like 8 damage. Replace Tremors and Playground with Goblin Guide (assuming it fits within your budget) and Monastery Swiftspear. You could also add Eidolon of the Great Revel, or you could splash white for Boros Charm and Lightning Helix.
3 days ago
To be honest; I think the only card not really fitting in at the moment is Thalia, Guardian of Thraben. I know why you put her in that place, because I once made a deck with her as a two-of, too. Hell, I played ~10 3CMC enchantments. You got it somehow better (Path to Exile) and worse (Assemble the Legion). She just does not work the best, if she is not a four-of and if that would not be enough she could slow down your anthem-effects as well as Planeswalker. Cut her, would be my tip.
You should also give it a thought, if you really want to have a six CMC slot. If you draw such a card early it is potentially dead and has to be backbreaking, if you get to the point, where you can play it.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion would be a good and fitting replacement for Captain of the Watch. You my not get the anthem from her, but a continous stream of three 1/1 soldier tokens with an added wrath effect, that only destroys creatures with power three or greater. In short, bodies to protect you, kills things out of reach from Lightning Helix and Ajani Vengeant and has an ultimate, that could gives a weenie deck a prime position to end the game.
4 days ago
What heresy is this?! Where are the Lightning Bolts? /s
Besides all that I like the brew. A tad more inivative and complex than simple white weenie with the added oumpf of Lightning Helix (in the right meta better then Lightning Bolt) and Assemble the Legion. I imagine your deck is good at spiraling out of control? Only thing being a little weird to me is your creature count; do you ever run thin on available beaters?
5 days ago
No problem man haha.
I don't really see how dawn charm helps you, but adding white seems completely fine. Adding a third color is easy to support, and gives you access to cards like Path to Exile and Lightning Helix. Helix isn't especially great in this meta, but Path to Exile is better than ever.
6 days ago
I think you're right about Return: two seems about right, three at the absolute most. Vantage is an easy four-of, IMO. I'd personally drop two Foundry (you'll never need to fetch more than two before fetching basics, and the others can be needlessly painful to play untapped), and probably a pair of basics. 22 land might be slightly high here as well--keep that in mind as you get more games in, and consider testing at 21 or even 20.
I hear you on Ranger, but your games shouldn't be over on T3 with all those Bolts and Paths. If it's happening to you nevertheless, maybe some of those Boros Charms need to become a removal spell like Lightning Helix. Firewalker's number is a meta call; if you're unsure, go with two.
Thanks for your compliments. Inspector and Berserker have been all-stars in testing. Alesha and Mentor generate immense value if unanswered, but they're conditional and pretty expensive to cast. Try them and see how they work for you!
1 week ago
Some card advantage would probably also be good here, like Think Twice. Also, Dramatic Reversal dosen't really make sense to me, since you're only using to untap creatures, and if your looking to preserve your lifetotal, you got removal to help doing that.
1 week ago
The spell spread looks good. Lightning Helix is never a bad card, but with how much life you'll be gaining elsewhere, you may benefit from cutting Helix in favor of more Paths and Bolts, just to keep the curve lower. I'd also consider something in the vein of Return to the Ranks in case a sweeper slips through your defenses, or you're in a long and grindy matchup.
Check out my brew Boros Bean Counters (Human Tribal) for a different take on R/W Norin Humans.
+1 and good luck to you.