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Glimpse of Nature
Whenever you cast a creature spell this turn, draw a card.
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Glimpse of Nature Discussion
1 week ago
add Vengevine for infinite mana.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn to seal the game.
2 weeks ago
Craterhoof Behemoth and Tooth and Nail are great finishers for this build. Glimpse of Nature can be a very powerful draw engine once Selvala starts pumping out lots of mana. My build has several infinite combos included, which you noted you're trying to avoid, but maybe something else in there would fit well - feel free to check it out Emerald Evolution.
2 weeks ago
IrvRai - Birchlore Rangers is the easiest way to get infinite blue, but it's not the only way. You can do a loop involving Crop Rotation and Nantuko Tracer, and then any land that produces blue mana. Crop Rotation effectively "untaps" a land by sacrificing a tapped land and replacing it with an untapped land, so you can create infinite blue that way. There are also loops such as Chrome Mox + any blue card + Nature's Claim + Riftsweeper to generate infinite blue, so you should be good to go in effectively every situation.
Drak - I'll go down the list of cards and explain our reasoning for excluding em:
Cloudstone Curio - Now, this is actually a pretty interesting one, but our combo only needs a single green creature in hand to go off once we have Momir on the field.
The basic game plan is "play ramp/counter spells --> cast Momir --> Hack Momir + cast a green creature --> win the game."
Where Cloudstone Curio would come in handy is that last part, after we cast Momir. However, at that point, any green creature would do in order to win, which means that Cloudstone Curio wouldn't really be helping much. If Cloudstone helped ramp more consistently, or bounced another creature without needing you to play another creature, it might be better for the deck.
Aluren - Admittedly, I have a soft spot for Aluren. However, I'm not sure it would be a good for for this deck. While it effectively reduces the mana cost of creatures played after it, Aluren unfortunately costs 4 mana by itself. In addition, if we could go off at instant speed, it's likely that we could also go off at sorcery-speed without passing turn. It's also notable to mention that our Temur Sabertooth wincon, which is our main wincon, doesn't work at instant-speed, since Temur Sabertooth costs 4 mana and isn't Aluren-able. So while Aluren could help, it's only one mana away from Momir, and therefore it's more efficient to just cast Momir instead.
Coiling Oracle - This card actually used to be in the deck, and it's part of one of the optional alternate wincons. Basically, it's swap-able with Elvish Visionary, and for the most part you wouldn't notice a difference in your standard win lines. However, there are a few arguments against Coiling Oracle vs Elvish Visionary. For one, Coiling Oracle costs UG, as opposed to Elvish Visionary's 1G, which makes it more difficult to cast outside of our combo. In addition, while it's true that Coiling Oracle tutors for us, Elvish Visionary also tutors a creature to hand for us, even without a hack. Due to Momir Vig, Simic Visionary's wording, casting Elvish Visionary will tutor a creature to the top of our library, and then when it enters the battlefield, we will draw the creature we tutored. Since we believe that the more difficult mana cost is more relevant than the potential ramp of Coiling Oracle, we run Elvish Visionary instead.
If you were wondering about the alternate win with Coiling Oracle, it involves shuffling Gaea's Cradle into your library by getting it into your grave (either Chain of Vapor or Glamerdye do the trick), then putting it into your library with Nantuko Tracer, then looping Coiling Oracle and Temur Sabertooth to put the land into play untapped. You can use this to generate infinite mana through Glimpse of Nature without decking yourself..
3 weeks ago
@redkhan, thanks for the feedback, no need to apologize. Both of those are noncreature spells in a creature deck. Def something to consider.
Skullclamp insta-kills 11 creatures right now. Not a ton, but I've seen success in the past. It's one I've had in since the beginning to sac mana dorks once they become irrelevant in a long game. I'll admit that I have considered removing this at times.
Glimpse of Nature is a new card to me and I love it. The best kind of cantrip in a creature deck
I'm embarrassed to say that I had Glen Elendra Archmage too for probably over a year and never drew it when I needed it. Eventually was traded out of the deck itself to someone else for something I needed at the time in another deck.
I agree with a lot of what you say. I'd hate to draw into stupid countermagic when really I just want to draw into gas. All too often my friends stop me in my tracks tho once it's time to blast off. I like your Swan Song idea and I really need to pick up another Spellskite and maybe Glen Elendra Archmage
3 weeks ago
So personally I don't really see how good Skullclamp is in your list. Also Glimpse of Nature seems really dangerous if you accidentally combo since it isn't a may. Temur is one of the few colour combinations I haven't played sticking mostly to jund and sultai so if I suggested the two cards you feel you can't cut because of the draw ability apologies.
1 month ago
By the way, you may want to consider adding Drift of Phantasms. It tutors Food Chain and it can be gotten with Worldly Tutor, Sylvan Tutor (which you might also consider adding), Imperial Recruiter, etc.
If you get enough creature density in your list you might also consider Tishana, Voice of Thunder and/or Soul of the Harvest for some added card draw or, if you'd prefer to keep it a bit cheaper there's Glimpse of Nature.
I ended up overhauling your mana base a bit in the list I'm working on, but I assume the changes would be rather obvious and that you probably kept yours the way it is because of card availability?
1 month ago
What would you think about the addition of Glimpse of Nature? With Edgewalker, Cloudstone Curio, and a Shadowborn in play and a Shadowborn in hand this lets you pick up your deck.