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Format | Legality |
1v1 Commander | Legal |
Arena | Legal |
Block Constructed | Legal |
Canadian Highlander | Legal |
Casual | Legal |
Commander / EDH | Legal |
Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
Custom | Legal |
Duel Commander | Legal |
Gladiator | Legal |
Highlander | Legal |
Historic | Legal |
Historic Brawl | Legal |
Legacy | Legal |
Leviathan | Legal |
Limited | Legal |
Modern | Legal |
Oathbreaker | Legal |
Planar Constructed | Legal |
Tiny Leaders | Legal |
Vintage | Legal |
Stump Stomp
Sorcery
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to target creature or planeswalker you don't control.
Optimator on Ubangi Stomp
1 month ago
DreadKhan on Going beyond 40 lands if …
1 month ago
I think I largely agree with lukecwolf, you need a very good reason to want to run more than about 35 lands, depending on your colour you almost certainly have SOME options for cheap card draw effects, and in most games you'd rather see these than extra lands later, stuff like Sign in Blood and Spirited Companion/Elvish Visionary/Humble Defector help grease hands where you drew either a bit fewer or a bit more land than is ideal, these will make sure you're not stuck when drawing another land in it's place would only help when you have too few lands (and would be brutal if you had extra).
If the Jund deck you're talking about is your Mr Orfeo deck, I think you have too many lands for your average MV, I'd definitely run more land ramp spells (to generate faster/more consistent hands, land ramp can fix too), there are even some janky options like Dire-Strain Rampage and Road / Ruin that offer you combination ramp and removal, there are others that provide blockers (like Wood Elves and Farhaven Elf), just running this many lands makes me fear land floods. For the record, if you've got access to Green you probably shouldn't bother with most of the artifact ramp, Nature's Lore and Three Visits are much better than any of those, especially since they can find non-Basics. The other thing your deck should look at is stuff like Night's Whisper, Sign in Blood, Humble Defector, and Llanowar Visionary/Elvish Visionary, these often play better than more lands. I guess the final thought would be you can sneak some MDFCs in to replace generic lands, the new Stump Stomp Flip would probably be handy in your list for example, and I think most decks that can run Bala Ged Recovery Flip and Valakut Awakening Flip should do so, ymmv on others. At 40 lands I'd straight up shave lands for MDFCs.
I like Bounce Lands in decks that have shaved a few lands, they give you another land drop, but they do make you VERY vulnerable to anyone crazy enough to run Dwarven Miner/Dwarven Blastminer, so keep that in mind I guess? Most people don't use stuff like that in Commander, it's considered anti-social by a plurality of the format, but you might see a Strip Mine, but most people would rather keep their Strip Mine for something like Gaea's Cradle than spend it on a Guildless Commons. I would say with some confidence that you can probably shave a land for every 2 Bounce Lands you replace normal lands with, but I doubt I'd go over 4 or 5 in a deck.
Optimator on Unashamedly Gruul Assault
2 months ago
Loves me somes budget Gruul.
Stump Stomp Flip and Bridgeworks Battle Flip are budget and super nice
keizerbuns on Nadu and Bill, a Busted Duo
5 months ago
Thanks for commenting Excalibur478!
I agree that I should be running more lands, I’m just not sure what to cut yet to add them. Maybe Stump Stomp Flip can be cut.
I don’t know about adding more damage spells though. I think I have a decent amount of direct damage spells and abilities with Irencrag Pyromancer and Mishra's Command, and the versatility of Bushwhack being able to grab a land to trigger Bill or target a creature to trigger Nadu is just too good.
Thanks again, I appreciate the suggestions!
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