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Talisman of Dominance
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SaberTech on
Dissident Storm
1 month ago
Alright. It's harder to pull off a storm deck in Commander but there are things you can do.
The easiest way to storm in Commander is with the Isochron Scepter + Dramatic Reversal combo. The Scepter copies the imprinted spell, but you cast the copy so it counts towards your storm count. Running this combo requires you to run a bunch more mana rocks though, because you need to be able to produce at least 2 mana off of the rocks just to get the engine going, plus more mana if you want to produce infinite mana off of the combo. I don't know what your budget is like or if your group allows proxies, but at higher level tables you'd be looking to run cards like Mana Vault and Grim Monolith since those produce 3 mana all on their own. Beyond that though, you would definitely want to be running the talismans like Talisman of Dominance. Everflowing Chalice is another good option for storm because it's on rate if you only kick it once or you can just play it for free un-kicked to increase your storm count. Whichever rocks you end up running, you'll need a good number in the deck to support the combo.
The Dramatic Scepter combo also works well with Wishclaw Talisman. Activate the Talisman, then with the ability on the stack you activate the Scepter to untap the Scepter, the Talisman, and your mana rocks. While the first ability is still on the stack, activate the Talisman again and repeat the cycle. You'll be able to use up all 3 wish counters yourself and in the end you just pass a useless Talisman to the opponent, although after tutoring three cards you should just be winning that turn. The combo also just kills if Guttersnipe is out.
Running a bunch of mana artifacts (that don't enter tapped) has another benefit in that you can run cards like Paradoxical Outcome, Hurkyl's Recall, and Retract. You get to tap your rocks for mana, bounce them back to hand, and then recast them to increase your storm count and hopefully even net extra mana, although that requires more artifacts that produce more mana than they cost like Sol Ring, Mana Vault, and Grim Monolith.
Another combo card you could be running is Chain of Smog, which combos with Professor Onyx as long as you keep targeting yourself with the Chain and its copies. The copies won't count towards your storm count, but they will get you a bunch of treasure tokens off of Storm-Kiln Artist. You would have an empty hand, but you would have the mana to cast Kess and then cast a card from your graveyard. Ideally, you would be running wheel effects like Wheel of Fortune to immediately refill your hand and keep your plays going. Storm decks typically like to run wheel effects. On the more budget end of things, you could at least be running Windfall and similar effects so that you can match your opponents' hand sizes after emptying your own.
Chain of Smog + Archmage Emeritus will basically let you mill through your deck at the cost of emptying your hand. You'll be forced to discard the cards that you draw off of Emeritus. However, If you run a copy of Unearth in the deck then you can draw and discard your deck, use Kess to cast Unearth from your graveyard, and bring back Thassa's Oracle for the win. It's a risky line though because you won't have access to any counterspells to protect it.
Unearth is still worth considering for the deck in general since it can get back several relevant creatures in case they are countered, it's a 1 mana spell for storm count, and at worst you can cycle it away to draw a card.
Another combo I can think of based off of cards already in your deck is God-Eternal Kefnet + Scroll Rack + Time Warp (or any other extra turn card that doesn't exile itself). You use Scroll Rack to make sure that Time Warp is the top card of your deck. When you draw, Kefnet sees it and copies it. You cast the copy, and then before the end of your turn you use Scroll Rack to put Time Warp from your hand back on top of your library. Rinse and repeat for infinite turns.
Beyond that is typical storm stuff:
- Ritual Spells like Dark Ritual, Rite of Flame, and Seething Song are good for generating bursts of mana, especially since Kess can cast them again from the graveyard.
- Cheap cantrips like Ponder and Thought Scour help to dig through your deck while adding to your storm count.
- Cards like Bolas's Citadel and The Endstone keep the card train rolling.
If all of that is sounding really expensive, Stella Lee, Wild Card and Veyran, Voice of Duality are known commanders for their own unique storm decks. You can find lists at various budget point for them online. Zada, Hedron Grinder can also play as a budget, glass-cannon style goblin storm deck.
enraged on
OctoCLASH (Marvo) [PRIMER]
2 months ago
Awesome commander choice! I think clash is SUCH a cool mechanic, I was at the Lorwin prerelease back in the day and opened Ajani Goldmane and Lilliana Vess in separate sealed pools, what an awesome memory!
I think I get why mana fixing/advantage staples like Dimir Signet and Talisman of Dominance aren't in since their mana values are sooo low for Marvo, but they could still be useful includes. I also thin k a couple more cantrips, like Consider or Preordain could help set up the top of your deck.
Keep it up and check out some of my builds @ enraged!
SaberTech on Mana Rocks or Mana Dorks?
3 months ago
So, the general advice that you might find online regarding mana ramp in commander is something like this:
- Cheap ramp that searches for lands like Nature's Lore and Farseek is the best because land destruction isn't played often in commander and it thins your deck a little.
- 2cmc mana rocks like Arcane Signet and Talisman of Dominance are the second best option because they aren't destroyed by most wrath effects that get played.
- Mana dorks are the worst option for ramp because they generally have summoning sickness and are vulnerable to a bunch of the removal that gets thrown around.
There are other factors to take into consideration that adds nuance to the guideline above though. Like you already noted, decks that are built to get extra value out of creatures when they enter, die, or feed into other synergies could appreciate running mana dorks. Some mana dorks also offer additional utility like how Devoted Druid is part of a bunch of different combos. The biggest advantage that a mana dork can offer though is when it only costs 1 mana to cast while most of the other cheap options cost at least two mana. There are a couple reasons why being able to ramp turn one could be important to your deck:
- If your deck has a bunch of important or strong cards that cost 3 mana to cast then being able to play ramp on turn one lets you cast those spells on turn two, speeding up your game plan by a turn at a critical point in your curve.
- Maybe you have a bunch of important combo pieces or something that cost 2 mana that you want to cast on turn two if you can, so you don't want to spend turn two casting something like Arcane Signet or Nature's Lore. In that case, turn one would be the ideal turn for you to ramp if you can.
So take a look at the cards you run at each point in your deck's curve and determine how much of an advantage being able to ramp on turn one would be for you based on what you are running at 2cmc and 3cmc. That should help inform your decision.
As for mana rocks; One of the advantages of 2cmc mana rocks is that they only require generic mana to cast so you can cast one immediately off of a Sol Ring while card like Nature's Lore requires colored mana. If you are running a 5+ mana commander then the possibility of going turn one land -> Sol Ring -> mana rock means you could be casting some 5cmc commanders as early as turn two. If your commander is a strong value engine or is very aggressive then being able to play your commander that early is a strong advantage. If that is the case for your deck, then having a few mana rocks in the deck increases the odds of you being able to pull off that sort of fast play.
NV_1980 on
commander mill
6 months ago
Hi opencorners! Please consider adding some more mana-options to the deck. Right now, all you have for that are lands and compared to the average commander deck, this will make your deck painfully slow. Options I'd recommend include Arcane Signet, Dimir Signet, Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Dominance, Thran Dynamo and most especially Sol Ring. Dark Ritual can also be extremely useful at times.
You could also do with some more card-advantage (draw) to increase the deck's speed. Notion Thief, Phyrexian Arena, Ponder and Preordain could all be great additions for this.
Aside from this, I'd recommend giving the following cards a shot (I've tried to keep them budget):
- Breach the Multiverse: strong mill-spell that's potentially game-ending in terms of the sudden advantage you can gain (especially if you play against multiple opponents).
- Freed from the Real/Pemmin's Aura: allows you to untap your strongest millers (when Phenax is around) for next-to-nothing cost, and use them to mill again.
- Memory Erosion: quite deadly against decks that try to overwhelm you with the amount of spells that can cast per turn (this card is the death of prowess and storm decks).
- Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker: great mill potential with every successful attack.
- Nighthowler: a second Wight of Precinct Six.
- Sphinx's Tutelage: an incredibly effective mill card as it's triggered by your draw (which makes having more draw in your deck even more beneficial).
Hope this helped. In case you need some more insights, have a look at my own Phenax deck. Good luck with the deck.
DreadKhan on
Outlaw Communism
8 months ago
Neat deck idea, but I feel like you probably want more mana sources, definitely some more lands (I'd aim for 36-40 for a 4 mana Esper Commander that you 'need' to have out for your deck to work), and possibly some of the Talismans (some or all of Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, and Talisman of Progress would be obvious options to consider that help with fixing). My issue is that it's pretty easy to just kill your Commander, at which point you've got a bunch of auras that do very little. You can also throw in some cards to help protect your Commander, more of those could also shave off recasting, but remember something like Swiftfoot Boots needs adds an effective mana to the cost of your Commander (where Lightning Greaves does not), effectively adding 1 to her cost.
You're also pretty light on interaction of some sorts, but I'm guessing you're really, really counting on having your Commander out and stealing the problem creatures, but not everything is a creature in my experience! In White you have access to Generous Gift and Stroke of Midnight, this kind of card can solve a lot of stuff if you're desperate, regardless of the card's type. Maybe removal could be 'Secret Police', ie those who make problems 'go away' forever? I guess you could have Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker in charge?
Eldrazi Conscription can steal something bigger for you, and make it a HUGE problem fwiw.
Weird idea, but have you thought about some cards that can steal creatures for you regardless of the creature's scale? Sower of Temptation, Callous Oppressor, and Thalakos Deceiver are pretty cheap for what they do. You might also try something like Rite of Replication or Cryptoplasm, copying something like a Blightsteel Colossus can also solve the issue, at least for you.
Mortlocke on
Commander Sliver Deck
8 months ago
Okay Twinships, lets start with the most important thing you must know about Slivers - and repeat after me: "Slivers are a sometimes food.". While they are amazing, and the more show up the more ridiculous the boardstate - you don't need all of them. There are times when you absolutely need room for other things like interaction, engines, you know...an actual deck. First things first - Who is your commander? To designate a Commander for the list on TappedOut you need to tag the card with CMDR when editing your deck list. Depending on the Commander, choices and recommendations will vary.
As of now, your deck has no engines, interaction, or resiliency - all of which are needed as you seem to be suffering from the classic Sliver problem of poor table politics. So, lets start looking at some card recommendations:
- Lurking Predators: You need an engine, and this is as good as any. It also plays into table politics as it disincentivizes other decks from popping off at best, at worst it gets your opponents focusing on it instead of your creatures.
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Intruder Alarm: You need an engine, this one in particular is one of the usual suspects for slivers that help close out games. When Heart Sliver (or any other haste enabler) and Manaweft Sliver (or any other dork) are on the field you can at worst play your whole hand, and at best play your whole deck and close the game on the same turn. Just make sure you only play this when you can effectively end the game as it is an effect that benefits your opponents as well.
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Worldly Tutor: You need tutors.
- Sylvan Tutor: You need tutors.
- Demonic Tutor: You need tutors.
- Grim Tutor: You need tutors.
- Guardian Project: You need card draw.
- Dormant Sliver: This is an optional card draw suggestion as you need a reliable sac outlet to remove the Defender ability from your Sliver
- Counterspell: You need interaction.
- Mana Drain: You need interaction.
- Strix Serenade: You need interaction.
- Swan Song: You need interaction.
- Kindred Dominance: You need mass removal to slow down faster players.
- Blasphemous Act: You need mass removal to slow down faster players. This also combos very well with Spiteful Sliver as well.
- Cyclonic Rift: You need mass removal to slow down faster players and have answers.
- Consider the Talisman cycle: Talisman of Curiosity, Talisman of Dominance etc. You need more rocks and means of fixing your manabase.
- Kodama's Reach: The Sister to Cultivate - you need as many options as possible to fix your manabase in this deck as you are running all 5 colors. 5 Color decks tend to run slow and inefficient if you don't invest heavily in the manabase and/or in many different options for color fixing. On that same note, consider Skyshroud Claim as it is also very similar in nature as long as you have lands with multiple subtypes e.g. Stomping Ground
or Breeding Pool
which are both Forests but also are other land types. Also on that note - get shocklands. All of them. If you can also afford it get the Kahns of Tarkir/Onslaught/Zendikar Fetchlands as well. An okay cheaper substitute for the previously mentioned would be the Mirage Fetchlands - but they're an incomplete cycle. Sorry for the tangent here.
Now, these are just a start to some suggestions and ideas for your deck. But we can't get started until you designate your commander. Then we can start cutting to make room. Are there any pet cards or ideas you have? Please share.
angelx on
Runo Stromkirk Clerics
1 year ago
18/09
We actually are playing lower end for now, just going to tighten up the SeaBeasts and the staples a little. Also Davey Jones' Locker.
OUT - Saheeli's Artistry - Snow-Covered Swamp - Deceiver Exarch - Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip - Shield Broker - Stormsurge Kraken - Cavern of Souls - Reflections of Littjara - Talisman of Dominance
IN - Brinelin, the Moon Kraken - Quest for Ula's Temple - Marit Lage's Slumber - Lightning Greaves - Sapphire Medallion - Swiftfoot Boots - The Grim Captain's Locker - Agadeem's Awakening Flip - Blood on the Snow
Gidgetimer on Should I Keep Consuming Aberration …
1 year ago
The Mimeoplasm seems like the type of deck that Consuming Aberration would thrive in. I would cut it from the other 2 decks.
I'm not sure how much my replacement suggestions are going to be to your liking since I feel like your decks need mana ramp and you have been resistant to that suggestion in the past. So I would add a talisman to each deck. Since they are replacing a UB creature Talisman of Dominance is the easy one to name off, but any from the "pain lands, but as artifacts" cycle would do. To fulfil your "preferably creatures" requirement I'd say Grand Abolisher in Sen Triplets and Plaguecrafter for Thraximundar.










