Veyran, Voice of Duality

Veyran, Voice of Duality

Legendary Creature — Efreet Wizard

Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, this gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

If you casting or copying an instant or sorcery spell causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.

Veyran, Voice of Duality Discussion

Asmoeus on Veyran, Voice of Cantrips

3 weeks ago

Removed Exotic Orchard for Scavenger Grounds - to deal with graveyard decks

Removed Highland Lake for Access Tunnel - Intent is to make Veyran, Voice of Duality unblockable before stacking spell triggers.

Removed 1xIsland for Halimar Depths

enpc on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List]

1 month ago

The problem with Veyran, Voice of Duality is that while getting extra triggers is nice, most of the time if you're using effects like Guttersnipe then you're looking to assemble an infinite combo anyway, so additional triggers are much less relevant. Additionally, as smilodex mentioned, voltron is not an overly powerful strategy as you can only K/O one player at a time (short of extra turn spells).

That being said, if you've got a decklist in mind which can showcase her, that's generally the best way to get a commander bumped up in the list, as it provides a lot more context.

smilodex on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List]

1 month ago

@Steelghost9: Veyran, Voice of Duality is a pretty strong commander and of the best of the high powered ones, but he isn't a part of a combo, he doesn't generate value and he really doesn't do a lot without other cards... He's a strong enabler but nothing more.

Polaris on How does Ink-Treader Nephilim interact …

1 month ago

Ink-Treader Nephilim cares about players casting an instant or sorcery (that targets it specifically). Magecraft cares about casting or copying spells.

Any time Ink-Treader triggers, it will trigger all magecraft effects you control for each copy made (if you were the one who cast the spell, you'll trigger magecraft on the cast too).

For your first question, you'll cast Leap, copy it for the other three creatures (not Ink-Treader itself), and Storm-Kiln Artist will make four Treasure tokens.

For your second question, Veyran, Voice of Duality will apply as Ink-Treader has been triggered by you casting an instant,so Ink-Treader will copy it twice for each other creature. You'll end up resolving six copies of Leap plus the original, drawing seven cards, and Veyran's own trigger will give it a total of +14/+14 (just for funsies, he makes his own magecraft double trigger too).

Note, however, that Ink-Treader doesn't only copy it for your creatures; if you have four creatures out and your opponent has three, Leap will get all of them (barring protection or hexproof) and (at the cost of also giving the blockers flying) you'll draw seven cards and make seven Treasures with Storm-Kiln Artist, or draw thirteen cards and give Veyran +26/+26 with him instead.

Note also that Ink-Treader copies even if you weren't the caster. If your opponent hits it with Murder and you have four creatures and they have three, they will all die and you will make six Treasures (with Storm-Kiln) or copy Murder twelve times and give Veyran +24/+24 before it dies (and make 24 Treasures if you had Veyran AND Storm-Kiln out).

Veyran is somehow a Prismari card, despite making you do more math than Quandrix and being busted enough to pass for Simic.

Gidgetimer on How does Ink-Treader Nephilim interact …

1 month ago

Since Ink-Treader Nephilim copies for each creature and not each creature you control, these numbers are assuming that your opponents do not have any creatures.

You will create 4 treasures (1 for the cast and 1 for each copy).

You will copy Leap for each other creature twice. This will give Veyran, Voice of Duality +7/+7.

doodkyle on None

1 month ago

I'll give a few examples: Let's assume Ink-Treader Nephilim is on the battlefield along with Storm-Kiln Artist and 2 other creatures. If I cast Leap on ink-treader, and copy it for each creature, do I: 1: create 5 treasures (1 for the cast and 1 for each copy) 2: create 2 treasures (1 for the first cast, then 1 for the trigger that copies the spell)

Next example: Let's assume Ink-Treader Nephilim is on the battlefield along with Veyran, Voice of Duality and 2 other creatures. If I cast Leap on ink-treader do I cast leap on every other creature twice?

Primrose on Ping 60 to your face

1 month ago

Veyran, Voice of Duality and Harmonic Prodigyfor doubling up triggers, Rielle, the Everwise turns all your discards into more card draw, and The Magic Mirror for cumulative card draw. Those are the only ones that come to mind that I've seen recently.

Crow-Umbra on Triple Six, Five, Forked Tongue [Primer]

1 month ago

I'll be playing a bunch of games this upcoming Saturday, so it'll be my chance to field test a lot of these changes since I last played the deck. I think I've changed about 10ish cards since I last played it irl. Hopefully Possibility Storm will serve me as well as it served you Kalkris lol.

I have seen your build! I think I might've liked it within the past couple weeks, or checked it out after one the first times you commented on my list. It definitely gave me some ideas for this build, especially at the point when I was considering combo additions to this deck.

I don't think I would do a serious spell slinger overhaul on this deck until I've played the current iteration for a few months. I'll probably throw together some kind of list and publish once I think it's worth having extra eyes for feedback. I do imagine running stuff like Guttersnipe and other "Magecraft-y" type effects, which would mostly be in Red. It's a shame Prosper isn't Grixis, because having access to Veyran, Voice of Duality would have been great lol. Grixis Prosper would've had some filthy combo potential.

I think if I were to find a slot for one more card, it would be Wandering Archaic  Flip before any of the other Storm stuff. I've seen enough of it in games to see what it's capable of. In the game I mentioned a few comments back where my friends and I pooled resources to prevent our other friend from combo-ing off with Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, one of my friends was running Wandering Archaic, and that let him copy some of our removal and interaction for a team effort lol.

And thank you, I appreciate it. I think I'm still very much developing as a deck builder. I try to have fun when I write my primers to keep people engaged if they do decide to check it out. I don't think this is the best "casual" Prosper deck out there, but it's something I've had a lot of fun tinkering with over the past month and a half.

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