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Choose up to two target permanent cards in your graveyard that were put there from the battlefield this turn. Return them to the battlefield tapped.
Brought Back Discussion
6 days ago
@DespairFaction: You cannot compare geddon effects to Cataclysm and Jokulhaups . The latter are late-game combo pieces with Teferi's Protection , Boros Charm and now, Brought Back . They're our go-to spells when the game gets out of control. As you correctly pointed out, geddon effects are proactive--they're resource denial spells, much like Ruination , Blood Moon and Magus of the Moon . I've talked about them before and why I do not play them. I prefer the one-sided nature of Ruination and because it doesn't require us to have a board presence to hurt players with high-tiered, 3-, 4- or 5-color decks. In addition, my experience is that moon effects will accomplish the same thing (resource denial) more effectively (they don't require board presence to take high-tiered decks out of the game).
Regarding Smothering Tithe , here's the reply that I gave to another user who asked me the same question: "The card ramps like crazy because no one ever pays for it (unless 1v1'ing or 2v1'ing) and has pretty good synergy with Akiri (each treasure is a +1/+0). That said, unless you have a reliable way of spending the mana it generates, the card is only okay. Say, if our commanders had an activated ability like Thrasios, Triton Hero , this card would be very good because it would allow us to use the mana to generate card advantage. However, that's not the case and this makes me very reluctant to play smothering tithe here. I've no doubt that frenzy takes precedence over smothering tithe in any boros list. Our main issue is card advantage and we need all the help we can get to generate card advantage, not necessarily ramp. However, it also works pretty well with jokulhaups, so that might be something to consider. I guess I'll have to test it at some point." I've not tested it yet. The option you mentioned to find it with the enchant tutors is unrealistic. If you can search for enchantment, your priority will usually be something like (1) Blood Moon (resource denial) or (2) Grasp of Fate (removal) or (3) Land Tax (land tutor for card draw engines) or (4) Outpost Siege (card draw) or if none of that matters, (5) Smothering Tithe (ramp / combo with draw seven).
Chaos Warp is garbage. Please do not play it.
I do not play Orim's Chant . Think you were trying to say Orim's Thunder , which is an instant speed 2-for-1 spell. Highly undervalued and underplayed in multiplayer edh. That's quite far from being an odd card choice in a RW list.
I agree with your observation about how the deck should be changed depending on the meta. This was pointed out in the description and in previous comments.
Let me know if you put together a proper alternative version of this akiri-bruse, aggro-control list. I'd gladly mention it in my description.
1 week ago
Might i recommend a few more cards...
- Sword of Fire and Ice draw in
- Umezawa's Jitte c'mon.. it's too good not to
- Land Tax gotta hit those land drops
- Inventors' Fair another tutor, or even the life gain to counter loss of life from Gwyn
- Dispatch is basically another path/swords here
- Open the Vaults , Faith's Reward , Brought Back , Teferi's Protection , Boros Charm as some good recursion/protection, brought back is great with fetch lands too
- Stonehewer Giant another tutor
- Dowsing Dagger Flip more ramp
- Buried Ruin more recursion
- Lightning Greaves / Swiftfoot Boots you have Leonin Shikari so why don't you have one of these?!
- Infiltration Lens / Mask of Memory more draw... Gwyn costs 6 so you might need some draw before then
- Recruiter of the Guard he's a soldier but finds most of your knights
- Austere Command / Tragic Arrogance / Toxic Deluge good wipes
- Necropotence / Phyrexian Arena more draw before Gwyn
- Demonic Tutor / Vampiric Tutor enough said
2 weeks ago
Took out Pious Evangel Flip, Brood of Cockroaches , Dutiful Attendant , Champion of Stray Souls , Woebearer , Corpse Blockade , Epicure of Blood and two basic lands for Well of Lost Dreams , Beacon of Unrest , Revival / Revenge , Brought Back , Swiftfoot Boots , Arcane Lighthouse , Fabled Passage , and Mimic Vat .
1 month ago
Oh yep yep, I'm quite familiar with British slang so I get it. I.. still think it's both extraordinarily dumb and fun in equal parts, but I get it.
Right so, anywho, I've had a look at the deck. There are three main points I'd like to address.
The first and overarching point is consistency in the deck. There are a number of good effects that are useful, but only on a couple of cards. For example, Brought Back is a good card on its own (and I appreciate that it is the best of the three), but I think if you specifically want this effect then it would probably be worth running Faith's Reward and Second Sunrise too. If not, then it might be worth cutting in favour of some consistency in other areas, or perhaps more interaction. COntinuing along with this, for another Arcane Lighthouse effect, there's Detection Tower . For the Geode Golem effect, there's Command Beacon . For Ghostly Prison , there's Windborn Muse and perhaps Sphere of Safety ; either I think you should be running both there Sphere & Hall of Heliod's Generosity or neither. Considering the main goal of the deck seems to be wiping the board and gaining life, even though these are the most consistent elements of the deck, I think that probably it could still do with a few more of each.
Another thing is just a bit of consistency in your mana rocks to make a ladder. I'm not sure what the common lingo for that is, but the idea is to have multiple mana rocks at 2CMC, and multiple at 4. The idea being you play a 2CMC mana rock on turn 2 (or turn 1 if you have a Mana Crypt or Sol Ring , because those are amazing and defy any other plans and go in every deck if you have them), then follow up with a 4CMC rock on turn 3. Though there are plenty of good mana rocks at 3CMC for their cost, usually it's better to get a 4CMC rock down if you can consistently ramp into it.
Finally, your commander connecting for lethal commander damage seems to be you main win condition, so I think you might need a few more ways of making this happen. There aren't many other voltron thingies in your deck, so because you aren't that worried about having to target your commander with things, Whispersilk Cloak seems pretty much perfect for this. Trailblazer's Boots are also pretty good. Haunted Cloak is in there, so maybe consider Chariot of Victory as well.
Anyway yeah I'll leave it at that and stop rambling now, but can go into it a bit more if you like. I hope this helps, have fun with the deck!
2 months ago
Worldspine Wurm is good unrelated but there is a combo with Ashnod's Altar and Runed Stalactite That will let you just go through you your entire deck of creatures till you get the one you want. Then if possible use a card like Faith's Reward or Brought Back to get some creatures you sacrificed that turn while you were cycling through your deck.
2 months ago
That's true. It's a good combo; cheap and doesn't require Ghave. But outside of Earthcraft , Squirrel Nest is a rather dead card. As cheap as the combo is I'd rather have my combo pieces be able to function elsewhere in the deck.
Brought Back is an interesting idea. Again it really has only the one combo, but outside of that it could save some combo pieces for us.
2 months ago
I'm ending up removing the golgari and selesnya guildgates in place of an Overgrown Tomb and a Radiant Fountain . I also removed Scepter of Dominance , Creeping Renaissance , Gaze of Granite , Brought Back , Aggressive Mammoth , Goring Ceratops , Thalia's Lancers , and Adarkar Valkyrie . I put in Thrive , Bramblesnap , Banehound , Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter , Sunblade Elf , Leafkin Druid , Birds of Paradise , Courser of Kruphix and District Guide . What do you think IMMG?
2 months ago
Corpse Knight also opens up the Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest combo as a finisher now too. I've been running it in mine too. And Brought Back can be used as a combo with Eternal Witness , Blood Artist and Phyrexian Altar .
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