Noggin Whack

Noggin Whack

Tribal Sorcery — Rogue

Prowl (1)(Black) (You may play this for its prowl cost if you dealt combat damage to a player this turn with a Rogue.)

Target player reveals three cards from his or her hand. You choose two of them. That player discards those cards.

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Noggin Whack Discussion

lagotripha on On the Prowl

5 months ago

Budget rogues is a sweet brew - I ran it a long while back. I really reccomend running as many 1 drop rogues as you can - I was running up to 12, alongside card draw to keep them going, preferring unblockables as you can to take advantage of blackguard/thought thief and prowl. The higher up the mana curve you go, the more expensive the list gets as it turns into the faerie/ninja style lists.

Frogtosser is a fun card, but without a second cheap cost reduction spell, its probably better just to play some cheaper cmc rogues, unless you plan to ramp into a particularly key card.

Most of the below cards are really cheap, and you should be able to test different kinds of shells using them. You can mess around with mostly blue shells and add some negates, or mostly black and add push - but the best thing about rogue decks is that so long as you keep switching it up your opponents won't know exactly what they are facing, and will have to play accordingly.

Key evasive 1 drops Black - Nightshade Stinger Shadow Alley Denizen Vampire Cutthroat Thieves' Guild Enforcer Changeling Outcast

Blue - Faerie Miscreant Merfolk Windrobber Slither Blade Triton Shorestalker Mothdust Changeling

Key card draw options Low removal meta - Curiosity , Curious Obsession Glint-Sleeve Siphoner

Morsel Theft is a lightning helix at the face that draws a card when you are hitting your opponent, but bad without a board state.

Key artifact meta - Thieving Skydiver

'sorta' card advantage options

Noggin Whack / Acquisitions Expert a solid 'no hand for you' plan does a lot to keep your rogues on the battlefield. If sieze/inq is out of budget, Bribery or plain old Duress variants can still get you there.

Cards to avoid (traps)

Disciple of Deceit - the card disadvantage and tap/untap on it is punishing. Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive relevant rogues already evasive Thieves' Fortune - if you are looking for answers its likely they've already stopped you hitting them in the face.

Secondly, Pyre of Heroes is an interesting option to turn 1 drops into 2 drops, letting you have more consistent access to lords like soaring or blackguard. It also dodges counterspells like vial, even if its not at instant speed and doesn't help after a wrath. Its worth testing with some proxies to see how it matches you against the decks you are likely to play, as artifact removal is common (but getting them to sideboard it in is also good). Glasspool Mimic  Flip is notable in this case as a way to search out a clone of a lord without taking up a full creature slot, while Zulaport Cutthroat offers an option to drain out an opponent (even if it doesn't trigger prowl).

I hope this helps - have fun brewing!

lukeanto on Golgari Rogue Midrange

1 year ago

oh nevermind i just saw that Noggin Whack discards 2 cards :P

lukeanto on Golgari Rogue Midrange

1 year ago

isnt Blackmail better than Noggin Whack?? i know that Noggin Whack is more theme focused but still.

SquirrelPenguin on Which is better?

1 year ago

TypicalTimmy, regarding what you said, the question of Noggin Whack or Mind Warp depends on the state of the game. If your opponent only has 2 or 3 cards in hand, then you are spending less mana to look at their entire hand than you would with Mind Warp. And also, if you are referring to Awakening of Vitu-Ghazi, it's too late. I put it into almost every single green deck I make. Just don't use The Wurm. Whatever you do, don't use The Wurm. Also, Thornhide Wolves and Centaur Courser is a no-no.

SquirrelPenguin on Which is better?

1 year ago

goodair, I don't think Storm Crow is better just because you can pitch it to a $110 card. One more thing. Which is better, Noggin Whack or Mind Warp? In other words, Fish Brick or Mind Warp?

By the way, I am kinda disapointed by the return of cycling in Ikoria. I don't know why, but it ruins the "I have big creature, hear me ROAR!" theme that everyone likes.

hungry000 on Naughty Rogue Party

2 years ago

Hi, I've played (and still play) Rogues extensively in modern, and there are a few things I want to mention:

  1. Stinkdrinker Bandit and Oona's Blackguard are the two best Rogue payoffs and are pretty much the reason to be playing Rogues, so play all 4 of them.

  2. If you go with the advice above, you'll also need to add a few more one-drops (10-12 total). Stinkdrinker on turn 2 can often mean big damage the next turn, and Blackguard benefits from playing more 1 cmc cards since you can go wide with them and make your opponent discard multiple cards. I also recommend going up on the number of one-drops so you can reliably cast Noggin Whack on curve as it is a great tool to have against Control and Midrange.

  3. There are a few differing opinions out there on the topic of Frogtosser Banneret ; personally, I don't think it's necessary in Rogue decks, but it's not particularly bad, either. It can lead to power turns but if you build your deck around it too much you can get really clunky hands with lots of high cmc Prowl cards and no enablers. I find it to be more consistent and better overall to play more one-drops and cast Prowl cards for their full Prowl costs rather than go for the power plays with Banneret. You do what you want with it, but try not to fall into the deck building trap I mentioned just now.

  4. I wouldn't play too many Whack / Theft since they can tempt you into casting them instead of advancing your board state. Though chaining Noggin Whacks together with Frogtosser Banneret is pretty insane.

If you would like to look, here are two Rogue decks I've made: Faerie Rogue Tribal, Bad Moon Rogues

The first is more tempo-aggro oriented and the second is all-out aggro (second one is an example of the type of deck where I think Frogtosser shines). They're both mixes of tribal decks (Faerie/Rogue and Goblin/Rogue), so they're a bit different from what you have here, but I hope they help.

hungry000 on Night Prowlers

2 years ago

You need more one-drops. All you have right now is Faerie Miscreant, and Hidden Strings, Morsel Theft, Noggin Whack, and Stinkdrinker Bandit all get better when they can be consistently played on turn 2 (Stinkdrinker and Noggin Whack in particular). Without a solid one-drop suite most of the time you'll only be playing those cards on turn 3, which is too slow against many decks. I recommend you play at least 10 one-drops, more if possible. Slither Blade is the best one available, Triton Shorestalker is the worse version of it and Vampire Cutthroat can give some life gain.

Also, fill out the rest of the playset of Stinkdrinker Bandit; it's your best card. I'd drop a Oona's Prowler, Latchkey Faerie, or a Tetsuko for the last copy.

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