Bloodthirsty Blade

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Rules Q&A

Bloodthirsty Blade

Artifact — Equipment

Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and is goaded. (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)

Equip (: Attach this to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery. This enters the battlefield unattached and stays on the battlefield if the creature this card is attached to leaves the battlefield.)

ShieldOfHolyShadows on Arms Race (Boros Aikido)

1 month ago

king-saproling I've looked at a lot of those cards before but some of them are new! I think the shell is highly flexible and can support most things, but I am curious behind the reasoning on trimming most of the pillowfort and a handful of the rattlesnake cards.

Ill-Tempered Loner  Flip is great but frankly I can't be bothered to track Day/Night when I'm playing in paper.

Bloodthirsty Blade is solid and I have playtested it before, but my experience was that people were generally annoyed to see it, and because it was so cheap, there was no reason for me to not be using it constantly.

Truefire Captain was in there for a long time, but I needed space and it's one of my least favorite versions of the effect. 4 cmc, difficult casting cost, mediocre blocker, encourages aggression. So I trimmed it out for the ones I like slightly more, though I could be persuaded to readd the 3ish versions of the card that I don't run.

Ancient Gold Dragon would definitely be a powerhouse, but it's not really on theme for the deck. It's highly synergistic with Ganax, but Ganax is just in the deck because he's a red commander with Choose a Background and has flying. Gold Dragon is aggressive and highly threatening, which goes against the design goal for the list.

Death Kiss is fun, but I haven't tested it yet. Only concerns are the CMC and tracking the combat math.

For Life of the Party, I have some friends who love this card, but they play it in more of a blink deck where it can really shine. I don't know if I have enough support for it, but maybe I should give it a shot and see what happens.

Crown of Doom is super on-theme, but I've always found it to be relatively low-impact. +2 attack isn't a huge buff, and there's no guarantee it's on the person you need to be attacking.

Curse of the stalked Prey hits on similar issues with Crown of Doom, but I personally don't want to be using curses in the first place. You never know who they need to be on until much later on in the game. Like, imagine you curse someone and it turns out that player 3 is the real threat this game. You're rewarding people for attacking the wrong person, and encouraging them to avoid the real threat.

Skyboon Evangelist is fascinating; it reminds me of Frontier Warmonger. The reason I trimmed Warmonger was just that people never took advantage of the effect, it was just something I kept having to remind them of. I'm definitely going to have to think about this card though; I haven't seen it before.

Thanks for the feedback!

king-saproling on Arms Race (Boros Aikido)

1 month ago

This is a really cool deck. I love the intent and the list looks great. Personally I would make these swaps:

Windborn Muse -> Ill-Tempered Loner  Flip
Ghostly Prison -> Bloodthirsty Blade
Boon-Bringer Valkyrie -> Truefire Captain
Baneslayer Angel -> Ancient Gold Dragon (cool synergy with Ganax!)
Sunblade Angel -> Death Kiss
Lyra Dawnbringer -> Life of the Party
Gisela, the Broken Blade -> Crown of Doom
Brave the Sands -> Curse of Stalked Prey
Crawlspace -> Skyboon Evangelist

Rocketman988 on Defile Me Daddy Rakdos

10 months ago

Hey 77hi77! I love the angle you are going for with the deck, the "playing like a demon" role. I really like the token subtheme, and it feels like you could lean into that even more to give you more breathing room to swing with Rakdos. With more emphasis on a token subtheme, you wouldn't set your board back as much when you swing with Rakdos for "revenge" when your besties turn on you. Instead of resource denial, he'd play as incentive for others to leave you alone OR ELSE. Flavor wise, the legion of tokens would represent your minions that are sacrificed to get what you want.

Burn Down the House, Dance with Devils, and Devils' Playground would fill out the devil token subtheme you have going on, and Asmodeus the Archfiend, Fiendish Duo, Mayhem Devil, and Sin Prodder add even more devil synergy that aligns with the deck goals.

Army of the Damned, Carrion, Curse of Opulence, Dreadfeast Demon, Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder, Wand of Orcus, and Infernal Genesis are all great token cards that fit the infernal theme. Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer plus pump effects means permanent goaded enemy creatures and treasures for you to ramp with or sac to Rakdos as long as he's on the field. Speaking of pump, Arterial Alchemy can increase the power of your creatures, makes 4 permanents to sacrifice, and gives the deck even more draw power. Bloodthirsty Blade is a great demonic artifact to gift to problematic creatures. Black Market Connections gives you ramp, card draw, or tokens depending on what you need at the moment. Bite of the Black Rose is a super fun "choose your doom' flavor card. Head Games is a terrific demonic deal- while searching their library, see what deals they're willing to give you in order to get what they want. If they don't make a deal with you, they pay the price.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Rakdos's abilities are not targeted abilities, so Wyll's Reversal cannot copy Rakdos's sacrifice triggers. Likewise, you can copy Rakdos's on attack ability, but it will just make YOU sacrifice half your permanents again. Since Rakdos's ability does not target, so new targets cannot be selected for it; copying his abilities just does it again to the same person it would already affect. Additionally, Rakdos's abilities have separate triggers- one that triggers on your attack and one that triggers on dealing damage to an opponent. So you do have to deal damage to an opponent to copy the opponent sacrifice ability with Strionic Resonator or Lithoform Engine. That being said, Maze of Ith is an ability that goes on the stack when activated, so it can be responded to with cards like Bolt Bend, Not of this World, Deflecting Swat, etc. Maze of Ith and instant speed interaction usually targets too, so Lightning Greaves/Swiftfoot Boots help a lot with that too.

Licecolony on Goaded With The Sauce

1 year ago

I really like your manifest take on Jon. Consider Dulcet Sirens. It's a clever way to mitigate risk of having those horrible creatures for yourself. I'll definitely be adding Crawlspace and Endless Whispers to my list.

Suggested removals from deck Plague Reaver. While it's a nice card to give away, the turn you play it you'll have to sacrifice Jon Irenicus to Plague Reaver's trigger regardless of which order you put the abilities onto the stack. You'd rather not lose Jon.

Gisa, Glorious Resurrector. It's something you can't give away, which means it's good when you're ahead, but not great when you're behind,. Your mileage may vary, but I think getting something more immediately impactful on the board tends to be best.

Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker. You're not running a mill strategy, you'll only be filling the graveyard of dedicate graveyard decks.

Taniwha. I love this creature and totally understand running it for the memes, but phasing triggers before your upkeep, which means that when you give it away, it'll be phased out for the first turn under your opponent, so they'll keep their lands and you won't draw a card from Jon's ability. The turn cycle has to make two full rounds before Taniwha does anything.

Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip. Unlike Sheoldred, Tergrid doesn't make the opponent do either of its effects. It's another creature you don't want to give away, and Jon makes cards unsacrificeable. It just won't trigger much unless you're against a sacrifice deck.

Ensnaring Bridge. The creatures you donate will often be quite big. Ensnaring bridge will prevent them from attacking your opponents and deny you card draw.

Chromatic Lantern. It's only good if you need the mana fixing. You don't need the mana fixing. Try something like Thought Vessel or Decanter of Endless Water or Midnight Clock instead.

Assault Suit doesn't goad the creatures itself. Often they'll swing at you if possible.

Dissipation Field. Not as good as it looks. Doubles ETB triggers. Anti synergy with cards like Endless Whispers.

No Mercy Jon just has better options for this slot. If you can replace a non-creature with a creature in this deck, you usually want to.

Grave Betrayal. That's 7 mana for a card that could ruin your game by forcing you to revive bad cards you do not want.

Diplomatic Immunity. You want instant speed protection and protection from board wipes. Something like March of Swirling Mist is more versatile offensively and defensively.

Dark Ritual. I'm uncertain what you're trying to ramp into so quickly that you would need this. Maybe I'm wrong.

Countersquall. You may as well play the one mana version in An Offer You Can't Refuse.

Redirect may be bested by Narset's Reversal? That's a matter of opinion.

AEtherize risks bouncing creatures attacking other opponents such as those you've goaded but want them to keep. Try replacing this with a more versatile effect like Reins of Power or a more aggressive effect in Illusionist's Gambit.

Damnation. Jon prefers sacrifice board wipes so that your opponents keep their shit creatures.

Overall I think you could run less counter-magic in favor of more proactive effects.

Cards to Consider Creatures Generally I want to focus on adding creatures that you can give away and then steal back later to win the game.

With Jon, you often want cheap evasive creatures to give out for early card draw with his ability. Right now you have 1 two-drop creature. Throwing in a Changeling Outcast or a Slither Blade can mean you can give a creature away for cheap and still hold up mana for other things. Slither blade wouldn't die to Heartless Summoning too.

In the two-drop slot, you can run creatures that are more defensive like Baleful Strix, or give you card draw like Sygg, River Cutthroat or just more powerful creatures like Flesh Reaver which is a goaded 6/6 that can deal 12 damage a turn or Wretched Anurid. Heck, you can even add a versatile two-drop in Dimir Infiltrator which can be given away in the early game or used as a tutor in the late-game.

In the three drop slot, I think your idea of adding Steel Golem is a great one to make sure the only creatures your opponent has are the ones you're giving them. It's a brutal card. Rotting Regisaur is a card you don't mind giving away early, and can take back later to win. Phyrexian Soulgorger can be donated to an opponent as a goaded 10/10. They won't have to pay the upkeep, but that's a great body to give someone as a political tool. Cephalid Facetaker is also worth consideration though I personally don't run it.

In the four-drop slot, like you mentioned, Grid Monitor is a proactive creature counter. Abyssal Persecutor can save you from death. Archfiend of the Dross is risky but fun (it comes back to your control after the opponent dies).

In the 5-drop slot, both of the evil-eye cards are absolute ALL STARS. They work so well every game I've drawn them. They can also replace some of your weaker defenses like No Mercy and Dissipation Field

As a sidenote, I also like Deep-Sea Kraken as an unblockable 8/8 that can win you the game with homeward path.

Removal I recommend running more sacrifice-based removal since it'll mean your opponents keep the crap you give them. Things like Tergrid's Shadow or Vona's Hunger or All is Dust (one of my favorites) or Killing Wave. I also prefer Toxic Deluge to some of your other removal since it goes through hexproof. Curse of the Swine is also an exile effect that can be selective and works really well. You can also run single-target removal like Reality Shift or Pongify if you'd rather instant speed interaction. Feed the Swarm is quality. If you really don't care about cruelty, you can run Torment of Hailfire, but that card is honestly always too boring for me to want in my decks.

Card Draw Jon has access to some great card draw that most decks can't take advantage of. Fateful Handoff is a card draw spell that also donates (though does not goad). Sygg, River Cutthroat works well with evasive threats you give away (though should not be donated). Verity Circle works great with Jon's ability since it donates the creature first, and then taps it down. Teferi's Ageless Insight allows you to double your draw triggers from Jon.

Equipment Remember that you can donate creatures while they're equipped and you still control the equipment so they can't re-equip it. Pact Weapon makes the attacking creature bigger, while ensuring you can't die, and will draw you another card whenever the donated creature attacks. Dowsing Dagger  Flip works effectively on evasive creature to get you ramped. Vorpal Sword is a win condition on your unblockable evasive creatures.

Goad Dulcet Sirens, Bloodthirsty Blade.

Misc Graveyard removal is king. Throw in a Scavenger Grounds. My favorite card to run is Reality Shift. Make an Avenger of Zendikar spawn a dozen Wretched Anurids. It's not GREAT, but it is always funny. Cultural Exchange is a fun time too with all your manifest and shitty creatures.

That is all. Hope it was helpful.

king-saproling on Mighty Manotaur

1 year ago

How bout these? Keen Sense, Rogue's Gloves, One with Nature, Mask of Memory, Destructive Urge, Latulla's Orders, Kusari-Gama, Scepter of Celebration, Umezawa's Jitte, Bloodforged Battle-Axe, Bloodthirsty Blade, Goblin Diplomats.

Just a heads up that the way The Reaver Cleaver is worded (gives the equipped creature the ability via "" rather than the equipment having the ability), if your opponent controls Tahngarth then your opponent will make treasure tokens. Similar issue with Snake Umbra and Popular Entertainer. Bear Umbra would also work this way except that Tahngarth doesn't "attack" when he is given to opponents, they just get him as an attacker. This means Frontier Warmonger will not trigger for Tahngarth when he is attacking during an opp's turn.

Gidgetimer on Bloodthirsty Blade

2 years ago

701.38. Goad

701.38a Certain spells and abilities can goad a creature. Until the next turn of the controller of that spell or ability, that creature is goaded.

701.38b Goaded is a designation a permanent can have. A goaded creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than the controller of the permanent, spell, or ability that caused it to be goaded if able. Goaded is neither an ability nor part of the permanent’s copiable values.

Bloodthirsty Blade makes a creature goaded without an effect instructing you to "goad" it. As such it will have the designation "goaded" only while Bloodthirsty Blade is attached to it.

tonylomas on Bloodthirsty Blade

2 years ago

Hi all , so Bloodthirsty Blade says "and is goaded" when does this happen? the goad i mean, as soon as the creature gets attached with this? the important question: does this mean that i can attach , goad, and if i want to...attach to another creature to goad that one also? can i attach=goad multiple creatures by re attachin this to each one of them in my turn??

seshiro_of_the_orochi on Interesting Horobi Builds

2 years ago

Gift of Doom, Cauldron of Souls, Tetzimoc, Primal Death and Bloodthirsty Blade are propably the best cards you could possibly play in Horobi.

Black has enough wincons. Considering Horobi's ability, doing something spell based or ETB-based seems correct. So Torment of Hailfire and/or Gray Merchant of Asphodel. Another great card that can be both wincon and ramp is Revel in Riches.

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