Destroy target artifact.
Dredge 1 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly one card from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)
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1 month ago
RNR_Gaming you skipped over several of my points ;)
I'd also point out the majority of commanders do the same things every game to some extent. Atraxa decks are all walkers or generic counter decks, Meren decks all reanimate the same handful of things, Lathril is just elfball, Kozilek is just eldrazi tribal, Yuriko is either ninja tribal or big cmc, Edgar goes high cmc control vampires or low cmc aggro vampires. Very rarely do people have obscure decks without predictable strategies. The details can change as they have in my Mairsil deck from time to time. Sometimes I use Oona as my win con, other times tree of perdition, or even just turning Mairsil sideways after hex parasite eats a few planeswalkers. There's more to if you want me to go into it. People that look at Mairsil often limit themselves rather than be creative with him.
"Since release I would say the only thing that 100% goes into almost every list is Asmodious." This is just false and no one ever backs it up when they say it because they can't. Asmodeus the Archfiend, Unmarked Grave, The Deck of Many Things, Endling, Oriq Loremage, Pendant of Prosperity, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling, Spark Double, Sakashima of a Thousand Faces, Doom Whisperer, Ormos, Archive Keeper, Teferi's Time Twist, Notion Rain, Shenanigans, Battlemage's Bracers, Netherborn Altar, Lithoform Engine, Sanctum of Eternity, Wizard's Spellbook, and more. These all easily fit into Mairsil lists and make for difficult choices on what to keep and what to cut. Again though if you wanted to only build as optimally as possible there are only 2 or 3 things that lead to victories. Although even one of those didn't exist until after Mairsil was printed, Thassa's Oracle. He gets plenty of toys, people are just unimaginative imo.
2 months ago
lol this deck is some real Shenanigans!
3 months ago
After further testing and time to parse through the upcoming Forgotten Realms regular and commander cards, I think you're right about the "discard hand, draw 3" model. While it sometimes works, it takes far too much commitment and loss of control to rely heavily on. I will keep Ox of Agonas as I still think its Escape mode is pretty great, but Anje's Ravager and any others are out. I'm also putting Stinkweed Imp back into the deck because being able to process 5 cards without spending mana, just a draw, is powerful.
I think for now, I should tighten my sources of card advantage. Though it adds a bit more consistency to have more smaller looting cards like Thrill of Possibility or the aforementioned Anje's Ravager , I could just be using those slots for more powerful cards that actually impact the board or are otherwise useful while consolidating the draw power to the heavy hitters like Magus of the Wheel , Vilis, Broker of Blood , or Disciple of Bolas for example. Specific tools and answers will be handled by the tutors I was adding anyway and the general system will be greased with odd cards like Squee, Goblin Nabob and Phyrexian Reclamation .
Everything else needs to be playtested rather than theorized about, but I think it's safe to say this is a core part of the deck that I should reconsider and upgrade. I'd also like to put forward the new Warlock Class as a possible replacement or partner to Archfiend of Despair and the possibility of Heartless Hidetsugu .
I'm also interested in the new Hurl Through Hell , Fevered Suspicion , and Orcus, Prince of Undeath . The former two I'm more optimistic about, and am willing to sacrifice a little reliability for their potential and because they look like a lot of fun, but I suspect Orcus will be one of those cards that look a lot better on paper than in practice.
3 months ago
- Archangel's Light
- Seasons Past
- Reach of Branches
- Spit Flame
- Repeating Barrage
- Rekindled Flame
- Hammer of Bogardan
- Grim Reminder
- Sosuke's Summons
- Krovikan Rot
- Unconventional Tactics
- Summon the School
- Grim Harvest
- Death of a Thousand Stings
- Reality Scramble
- Throes of Chaos
- Petals of Insight
- Redeem the Lost
- Waves of Aggression
- Call the Skybreaker
- Spitting Image
- Worm Harvest
- Savage Conception
- Syphon Life
- Flame Jab
- Raven's Crime
- Oona's Grace
- Cenn's Enlistment
That's all I got for now.
3 months ago
I like your idea of Hellkite Tyrant so I've made a swap for him, getting rid of Vandalblast while simultaniously moving Ingot Chewer out for Shenanigans . I'll have an opportunity soon enough to test those things out, so I may as well make the change for now. Thanks for that suggestion! :)
I personally am not a fan of the forced discard of your entire hand that Ox of Agonas has. At least, not for just three cards. Wheel of Misfortune is a good enough Wheel of Fortune impersonation that I would still prioritize it over the 'discard hand draw 3 creatures'. Draw 7 is so much more powerful for a deck reliant on burst damage such as this one. And in a roundabout sense, self-milling using Dredge cards is much the same result, so perhaps one of the options between Ox, Ravager, or Reveler is a good subtitiute to replace Stinkweed Imp if you like those effects more.
And as for nuPurphoros, I am not a fan of him here. In a mono-Red deck sure, but there's just too many Black creatures here for him to be consistent with his effect, which is the major thing differentiating him over other Haste enablers. He's very borderline worth the 5 mana as a Haste-granter, and certainly not worth it as an 8 mana Sneak Attack that only works with half your creatures. If you're having trouble with keeping Chainer on board as your primary Haste effect, always keep in mind that you don't have to send him to the Command Zone everytime he's done in. Conserve some of your redundant recursion ( Reanimate , Dread Return ) for him. Or just jam Lightning Greaves and/or Ogre Battledriver somewhere in the deck!
3 months ago
I'm surprised artifact lands got printed, and I'm waiting for the MH2 lands to break, even with entering tapped.
Dredge is only a significant problem with a bug number; Shenanigans is basically a repeatable Shatter , since Dredge 1 isn't that threatening. The most used Dredge cards are Golgari Thug and Stinkweed Imp , which dredge 4 and 5, and Golgari Grave-Troll is banned in Modern. So this is a case of overbalancing.
There's a similar story with Storm: it's only a problem if it represents a win condition, like Brain Freeze , Tendrils of Agony , Grapeshot , or Empty the Warrens . I don't think too many games have been won or lost on Astral Steel or Reaping the Graves . It depends on the effect it goes with.
4 months ago
Thanks for the support! I'll try and take a look at your own list when I have the time if you want some suggestions there as well.
First, Shenanigans ! I had it in the list for a while as a stand in for Golgari Thug (who's pricey for an uncommon) and it performed...better as discard fodder than as artifact removal. Ingot Chewer does a lot for this deck and is much more abusable and cheaper to cast (9 times out of 10 you evoke it).
I essentially only have room for 3 expendable single-target removal slots after all the synergistic options like Shriekmaw . Between Baleful Mastery , Bedevil , Chaos Warp , Rakdos Charm , Vandalblast , By Force , and Shenanigans itself (for examples), I prize the exile effect and mana efficiency on Baleful Mastery first and foremost (if you're wheeling frequently with Magus of the Wheel or even Ruin Grinder a single draw is irrelevant), with Chaos Warp acting as another non-destruction removal piece that isn't restricted on what it can hit. All of that covers creature removal quite thoroughly, so I looked to dedicated artifact removal next.
I chose Vandalblast over any other targeted artifact removal due to the popularity of Osgir, the Reconstructor and Voltron-style Sword of X & Y equipment decks. A non-targeting wipe is significantly stronger against artifact decks like them vs. an incremental single-target destruction effect like Shenanigans. If you don't have a go-wide artifact deck like Osgir in your play environment, feel free to use Shenanigans over Vandalblast and reap some extra discard synergy in the meantime.
For Ilharg, the Raze-Boar I wanted a threat to work as an independent backup plan from the graveyard. The best response a graveyard deck can have against grave hate is to practice moderation, and Ilharg attacks on a similar angle to Sneak Attack without adding to the graveyard unnecessarily. The vast majority of ETB effects in the deck are valuable and worth repeating over and over again, while Ilharg itself is a hard-to-remove threat in its own right. If you are having trouble with needing creatures in hand to abuse, I would highly recommend Phyrexian Reclamation ...so much so that I wouldn't even suggest running Sneak or Ilharg without it!
And trust me when I say that sneaking in a Master of Cruelties off of Ilharg is a devious play that is guaranteed to turn heads and take names!