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Creature — Kavu
When Flametongue Kavu enters the battlefield, it deals 4 damage to target creature.
MeneerDutchy on Henzie “The Toolman” Taylor ETB
10 months ago
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10 months ago
So with adds and cuts I think I need less...like reanimator-y stuff and more fast creatures like Tectonic Giant. The best cards seem to be Flametongue Kavu and Tectonic Giant both in terms of ability and cost. So cards like Hammerheim Deadeye and Bloodshot Cyclops (but better) might be cool as kind of a control deck since 4 damage removes about everything in the format. Perhaps I should add more etb control/delay cards like Manic Vandal hmmm...that said I think having a threatening aggro board of value 3-5 drops will naturally fill my graveyard so I may need less "fill my graveyard" discard stuff than your typical feldon deck.
ManiacalPotato on Night of the Living Robots v2 | Feldon EDH
11 months ago
Thanks for the recs!
Hanweir Battlements Meld is a very solid option, will definitely seek one out. c: Also, Darksteel Citadel is mostly in the deck for Prototype Portal shenanigans, but it also has the niche benefit of sticking around in case I end up nuking my own stuff, I miiiight take out another mountain and keep both cards.
Homeward Path would be a very strong inclusion, I love the utility for sure, and getting a humble defector tap every turn sounds spicy! It's a bit out of my price range, but for sure going in the acquireboard.
Wheel of Misfortune seems fun and potentially very strong, but I don't like the uncertainty around the effect, and giving my opponents the ability to opt-out of wheeling their hand removes the combo-breaker utility. Wheel of Fortune would be very good but also is very, very expensive
Inferno Titan has been in a couple of iterations of this deck, I have a tendency to underestimate the power of dealing damage with no strings attached, I'll think about what I can sub out for it!
Flametongue Kavu same as above, although I'm leaning towards inferno titan for the reuseable damage and more flexible targeting.
Curse of Opulence was like $15 before its reprint, now that it's cheaper I'll see if I can find a copy!
Profet93 on Night of the Living Robots v2 | Feldon EDH
11 months ago
Hanweir Battlements Meld - Not necessary but nice to have. I would cut darksteel citadel for it as I think haste for commander > artifact to scrap for goblin welder
Homeward Path - Meta depedent, given your deck is commander based and you toss powerful creatures in the yard, this helps mitigate GY focused and creature stealing decks. Synergy with humble defector.
Wheel of Misfortune/Wheel of Fortune - Both help you with draw which you need, filling your GY and potentially ruining opponents carefully tutored combos.
Inferno Titan - Powercard
Flametongue Kavu - Simple damage
Curse of Opulence - Ramp, politics, potential T2 feldon
Let me know what you think of each suggestion
rambunctiousOrator on it's a deck alright
1 year ago
Hey, sweet deck. Let's take a look at win conditions and lands. I've identified a problem with your deck: You aggressively want to control the board with your 1-3 drops. While other players are playing 6 mana bombs every turn your are trying to eke out board advantage with 3 or 4 creatures a turn.
- You don't need board wipes in this deck, they actively go against your game-plan, and in no way help you win.
- Less removal in general. I counted 18 pieces of removal in your instants and sorceries. Keep Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, and Damn and get rid of the rest. You ARE the threat, if your deck is running slowly to the point that you feel like you need removal, you need better creatures.
As for lands, use this mana base.
- 1x Ancient Tomb
- 1x Arid Mesa
- 1x Blightstep Pathway Flip
- 1x Blood Crypt
- 1x Bloodstained Mire
- 1x Bojuka Bog
- 1x Boros Garrison
- 1x Brightclimb Pathway Flip
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire
- 1x Godless Shrine
- 1x Marsh Flats
- 6x Mountain
- 1x Myriad Landscape
- 1x Needleverge Pathway Flip
- 1x Orzhov Basilica
- 4x Plains
- 1x Rakdos Carnarium
- 1x Sacred Foundry
- 1x Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
- 5x Swamp
How would I change your win condition...well you are trying to do knight tribal...
Consider these cards:
- Bond of Discipline
- Response / Resurgence
- Sorin Markov
- Aether Vial
- Luminarch Aspirant
- Lion Sash
- Harsh Mentor
- Blood Moon
- Price of Progress
- Flametongue Kavu
- Selfless Spirit
- Remorseful Cleric
- Unexpectedly Absent
- Goblin Rabblemaster
- Skyclave Apparition
- Palace Jailer
- Grim Lavamancer
- Bonecrusher Giant
- Dark Confidant
- Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
- Leonin Arbiter
- Umezawa's Jitte
- Hunted Horror
- Rotting Regisaur
- Shadow of Mortality
- Hunted Nightmare
- Dauthi Voidwalker
- Robber of the Rich
- Sudden Spoiling
- Esper Sentinel
- Kolaghan's Command
- Walking Ballista
- Felidar Retreat
- Marshal's Anthem
- Forsworn Paladin
- Lunarch Veteran Flip
- Soul Warden
- Soul's Attendant
- Heliod, Sun-Crowned
Remove these cards:
-15 pieces of removal from instants and sorceries, keep Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, and Damn
Good luck, and happy hunting. Let me know if you want to continue the conversation or have questions
Profet93 on Mines of Moria
1 year ago
I got a lot of ideas....
Solemn Simulacrum - Ramp and draw which you need both of
Magus of the Wheel/Wheel of Misfortune - Wheel
Inferno Titan/Flametongue Kavu - Damage
Humble Defector - Draw + Politics
Dualcaster Mage + Heat Shimmer = GG - Both are good on their own as well
Myriad Landscape - Ramp
Chaos Warp - Your only form of enchantment removal in mono red
Lightning Bolt - Damage
Vandalblast/Chain Reaction/Blasphemous Act/Pyrohemia - Wipe
Light Up the Stage/Ignite the Future - Draw, light up the stage works particularly well in your deck
Endless Atlas - Draw
Sol Ring - How is this not in here already?
Nevinyrral's Disk - Wipe for enchantments as well
Mind Stone - Ramp for commander when you need it, draw when you dont
FoxandtheVoid on Norin, Agent of Chaos
1 year ago
Thank you so much for your interest in my deck and this thorough suggestion list and comment. So starting off with the draw you suggested, I kinda missed War Room , I am currently making up a list of things I want to change and I'm slightly changing up the pacing and direction and will be adding more draw. So War Room will definitely be one on the list. Tome of Legends is on my list already so thank you for confirmation on a good draw, especially with Norin popping in and out every turn. I don't know why but Endless Atlas doesn't feel too good to me, maybe if it were 1 mana I'd probably throw that in too but as is I'll pass. Humble Defector my current meta isn't super into playing nice politics so I haven't considered this, also the lack of abusable ETB makes me lean against it. I'll probably talk more on my meta at the end of the comment. As for Ignite the Future and Light Up the Stage they have been kinda on a watchlist, the list I'm working on is gonna look to make big plays with a handful of x cost spells so the flashback with Ignite the Future is less spicy in that sense but still a card I'm looking into playtesting a bit.
Moving on to the Ramp suggestions Curse of Opulence seems nice and I will definitely consider it as I change Norin up to keep it feeling a bit more fresh. Dockside Extortionist I haven't picked up yet because I support my LGS as much as possible and they ones I frequent the most haven't had any in stock when I've been there, and the one time they did - money was a factor. As for the crypt and the gauntlet, I have been playing magic for 20 some years now so many of the pricey cards weren't so pricey when I got them and also have had a healthy local trading market. Yes Myriad Landscape is too slow for my liking. You are correct in your assumption that I am not running Ruby Medallion because of the high amount of artifacts I'm running. It will likely be reconsidered. Sword of the Animist seems kinda good on paper, but my meta likes to do lots of spell casting on other peoples turns so I feel bad spending 2 to equip only to have someone cast a spell and make Norin go away. Oh, and as for Gauntlet of Power and Caged Sun both are going in with my next big change so stay tuned lol.
Utility & Misc. Chandra, Torch of Defiance is good, I'll consider it but not sure where to fit it in, also she will never live to see her -7 in my meta. Dualcaster Mage wasn't considered because I'm only running 9 sorcery and 1 instant and most of them not super great to duplicate, my new list may change this so I may come back and reconsider. Sunbird's Invocation seems perfect for the new list I'm cooking up, thank you! I will definitely play test that. Blast Zone just seems meh, I don't like the XX cost, I haven't found too many enchantments I've wanted to remove and when I do I make them artifacts and destroy them or take them. Flametongue Kavu and Inferno Titan just seem too expensive for what they do, the Kavu being limited to creatures is a bummer imo. Terror of the Peaks should go on to replace Warstorm Surge I'll have to look into that. And lastly Zealous Conscripts used to be in the deck along with a Goblin Recruiter and Moggcatcher and every game was basically the same, tutor for kiki and either gamble or wheel into zealous it felt boring and I didn't enjoy playing it. Might make a return one day in the right meta.
As for your synergy suggestion, I would add it but my new list is actually going to omit Mind's Eye.
Now for my meta... well I currently find myself in limbo as just a few weeks ago my group had a bit of a falling out. Basically, one of my friends became the direct boss of others in the group and he had to let one of them go from the company during covid lockdowns and it just created a lot of bad blood. Drama aside, we had some people showing up with cEDH decks when others were playing intentionally suboptimal decks and only one other person would play nice politics with me so it was kind of difficult at times. Ridiculous amounts of removal, both targeted and mass, so I typically felt somewhat okay running a bit light on that. Also with reds artifact hate and the ability to turn things into artifacts I never really felt disadvantaged.
As I said a few times I am making some changes and I'll be adding things like Firecat Blitz and Tempt with Vengeance to dump a mass amount of creatures in at once for those warstorm/pandemonium effects. I am currently focusing primarily on a new Alesha, Who Smiles at Death deck that you may enjoy, I hope to get it up and made public in the next two or three days. And if you enjoyed this Norin deck for it's low cmc curve you may enjoy the Alesha deck because it's even lower!
Thank you again for taking interest and thanks for the upvote. All of these suggestions are appreciated. :) I hope you have a great weekend.
Profet93 on Norin, Agent of Chaos
1 year ago
I like your deck and it's avg cmc. How do you deal with the lack of card draw red has? I see you have some wheels, but without a reliable way to tutor for them or draw into them, wouldn't it be best to add more general card draw to help ensure you don't run out of gas. Have you considered the following....
Tome of Legends / Endless Atlas - Draw
Humble Defector - Draw + Politics. I use homeward path in my build for this slight synergy and politics with confusion in the ranks. Not needed but fun. Also noteworthy is homeward path's ability to mess with opposing GY shenanigans should they attempt to reanimate ours/other creatures
Ignite the Future / Light Up the Stage - "Draw" that works well with top. Flashback on ignite has won me 3 games that I can remember, although my avg cmc is slightly higher.
Curse of Opulence - T1 Norin, T2 Curse. T3 Profit + Politics
Dockside Extortionist - Speaking of treasure, is he not included due to price? I see you have gauntlet of might and mana crypt so I'm unsure if you have budget restrictions
Myriad Landscape - Or is it too slow?
Ruby Medallion - Are you not running this due to it's inability to ramp artifacts? I find it useful nevertheless, especially when trying to dump your hand, I think its potential use outweighs the lack of artifact ramp.
Sword of the Animist - T1 Norin, T2 Sword, T3 Norin grabs the sword, swings at the enemy, runs away back to safety while grabbing a land. I like land ramp due to it being less susceptible to removal and fueling valakut.
Dualcaster Mage - Value + combo with heat shimmer or twinflame should you wish to go that route. Each of those cards fuels ETB synergies as well.
Sunbird's Invocation - Expensive to cast but THE VALUE if it sticks. Hit or miss with many players, but has won me too many games to count. Perhaps my meta might be a bit more relaxed than yours though
Blast Zone - See no way for you to interact with enchantments. This might help should you wish. Nice with crucible
Flametongue Kavu - Removes most creatures, although it kills itself if its the only targettable creature on board
Inferno Titan - Burn, baby burn!
Terror of the Peaks - Burn baby burn part 2!
Zealous Conscripts - ETB value + Combo with Kiki-Jiki
A synergy to put in your description is Honor Shaku + Norin + Mind's eye = Draw during each opponent's draw step by tapping norin to fuel honor and honor to fuel mind's eye
Looking forward to your response to each suggestion. +1, nice deck. Would love to know more about your meta as well.