|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Uncommon|
|Rise of the Eldrazi (ROE)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Uncommon|
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Staggershock deals 2 damage to target creature, player or planeswalker.
Rebound (If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.)
1 week ago
Cool idea for a deck! I think you could try to build around your commander even more.
In your mana base, a very easy inclusion would be all the cycling lands. Desert of the Fervent , Desert of the Indomitable, Tranquil Thicket , Slippery Karst and Smoldering Crater are great for Gruul decks to have anyways because of the lack of card draw and they work super well with your commander.
All the Dredge stuff would be great in the deck. You already have Brownscale, but you could use Shenanigans (there's always a target), Moldervine Cloak and Greater Mossdog all give you consistent action in the late game that will also power up your damage.
There are tons of self-mill cards that are worth running for card advantage. Lead the Stampede , Beast Hunt , Benefaction of Rhonas , Commune with the Gods , Kruphix's Insight , Scout the Borders all work at varying degrees of efficiency. If you ran a few more enchantments (which wouldn't be hard to do), this could actually be a great way to stock your graveyard and give you tons of action throughout the game.
With that in mind, almost every Flashback card is probably worth running. Same goes with Retrace and Jump-Start. These will give you so many options over the course of the game and be an extension to your hand.
Book Burning Targeting yourself is a pretty good way to stock the graveyard quickly, unless an opponent wants to take 6, which is also nice.
Chainflinger is decent in PDH and would fit nicely in a deck like yours.
Firebolt is very good in general and gets even better if you're milling it into your graveyard.
Fortitude can make a big creature a bigger problem and feed your graveyard lands.
Mother Bear seems like a good fit, like most cards that generate value in the graveyard.
Elven Cache is a great card to have in green PDH. It doesn't cost you a draw like Reclaim does, which justifies the mana cost, in my opinion.
Is Renewal to janky? Cantripping and fixing your mana might not be worth 3 mana, but it does move your gameplan forward somewhat.
A lot of the cards in your maybeboard are cards I think you should actually play. Excavating Anurid is quite strong. A 5/5 vigilance that cantrips at almost no downside for you is really good. Igneous Elemental is comparable to Flametongue Kavu in many scenarios. All your burn and removal that requires sacrificing creatures or lands is also good for your game plan. Quicksand has no downside in your mana base.
In general, I think having more creature-based ramp might be better than sorcery or artifact ones, unless they sac lands. Rampant Growth, Land Grant, Search for Tomorrow, Renegade Map and Armillary Sphere seem like they would be stronger as mana dorks. Zhur-Taa Druid and Silhana Starfletcher are both cards that do a lot of work in PDH, plus all the typical 1-mana ramp creatures in Green.
Otherwise, I think Diligent Farmhand and Muscle Burst is cute, but not very effective overall.
Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt are oddly enough not impactful enough to play in PDH, in my opinion. I would vastly prefer Staggershock over either one for the better damage output or card advantage potential. These could be easy subsitutes for some of your maybeboard spells.
A lot of your creatures are aggressive, but not enough to really be pertinent in a game with 30-40 life (depending on how you play). Borderland Marauder, Burning-Tree Emissary, Moldgraf Scavenger, Zectar Shrine Expedition and to a certain extent even Scythe Tiger could be better as more resilient, synergistic or more powerful threats that scale better with all the ramping you're doing. Something like Sprout Swarm is a classic game-winning card that is good across the entirety of the game and works well with sac effects you're running.
Last thing: I think you should run more lands. I get that you're trying to be low to the ground and aggressive, but running a low land count hurts you in a lot of ways. It makes less opening hands keepable, it restricts the breadth of finishers you can use, it lowers the efficiency of your commander and cards like Winding Way and can even result in you running out of basics to fetch in the mid-to-late game. I think 38-40 lands would be a more appropriate number.
Again, great idea for a deck and I'm looking forward to hearing more about how you do with it. Is it more for 1-on-1 play or multiplayer?
2 weeks ago
If you want something that doubles as a Mana source and finisher, then you may add some Guardian Idol to the mix. I've tried many different versions of this deck, and Implement of Combustion is a card you want to keep in consideration as well. A card that also worked for me is Staggershock which can take a couple critters out of the board, and if you decide to pack some more artifacts, then don't forget Galvanic Blast . Cheers
2 months ago
Cool deck! I think a lot of your burn is sub-par, however.
Staggershock is a great way to get an easy 2-for-1 in Red. I think it would be an improvement over something like Burn the Impure in most cases. I also would not leave home without Rolling Thunder . This card can turn the game around in the late game.
You don't seem to have much artifact/enchantment hate in your deck. Hull Breach does both for a competitive price.
Speaking of card advantage, Lead the Stampede is a good way to refill your hand on creatures.
I found in my games that Lightning Bolt and its ilk aren't really worth running in a multiplayer setting of PDH. They're just not cost-effective. You want to make sure that your burn can at least give you an advantage. I would prefer Firebolt over Searing Spear any day, for example.
3 months ago
Magmatic Insight is a lovely card. You can't toss a phoenix with it, but people tend to miss the point that it's a draw 2 cards for 1 mana.
Lava Dart was spoiled for Modern Horizons. Casting two spells for 1 mana will probably be useful.
Staggershock is to be cast on your opponent's turn. The rebound allows it to be cast for free on your next turn. Free spells are always good.
5 months ago
MontaukMonster - as the person designing the proposed cards, the onus is on you to defend their creation. You are the one opening up your cards for critique, after all. It is not enough to just say "because I can," particularly given the abnormal nature of these proposed cards. You also really need to work on your tone--as has been mentioned already, you're coming off very aggressive, and that's not fair to those who took the time to respond.
In the interest of discussion, however, I will offer what you have yet been reluctant to do--a defense of your core concept. Personally, I agree with what others have said--that planeswalkers need to be limited in scope, but I want to move the conversation past the discussion of the core concept so we can address the actual cards themselves.
- What is the justification for the game design, and the creation of common planeswalkers?
As of right now, Pauper does not have access to any planeswalkers. This proposal would give pauper access to additional cards, as well as make planeswalker-matters cards that are currently at uncommon viable options in pauper, expanding the card pool and increasing diversity.
- What is the lore justification for common planeswalkers?
The issue here is that Planeswalkers are, by definition, legendary. After all, only a minuscule number of people have a spark, and only a fraction of those have their spark ignited.
The justification here is that someone has figured out how to artificially create the ability to planeswalk (akin to the Planar Bridge or Weatherlight, but embedded in a creature). However, this is a temporary situation, and burns out the person's body (hence why they only have minus abilities).
- Creature types on Planeswalkers
These are just generic individuals who have an artificial spark; they are not great heroes. We've already seen tribal cards, such as instants and enchantments, which show there can be some mix-ups between creature subtypes and others.
I think a better option would be to come up with a single planeswalker type that could apply to all of these, and then flavour them through the art. Something like "Planeswalker - Ensparked" that captures the essence of what you're trying to do, without getting into the messy situation of adding creature types.
- Non-humans as planeswalkers.
Boza's point is invalid. In addition to Bolas, Ugin, and Karn, there's Ashiok, Tibalt, Kiora, Sorin, Angrath, Dovin Baan, Ajani Goldmane, Ob Nixilis, Mowu (sort of), Nahiri, Vraska, Kaya, Nissa, and so many more. So, that's not really an issue.
- Multiple creature types
I think that covers a lot of the basics, and at least gets us to the point where we can address the individual cards.
Pyrenisian Druid - this card is costed too aggressively. It's the same cost as Rampant Growth, for effectively the same effect, but repeatable twice.
I think a fair price would be . This is the same CMC as Cultivate , accounting for the fact you can get multiple lands, with the additional green added to offset any potential planeswalker synergies, such as proliferate or The Chain Veil .
Disciple of Raojan - this is a very powerful effect, as it's basically Shock with rebound. That card already exists in the form of Staggershock , and is costed three. Basing this on Staggershock , I think sounds reasonable.
I might also consider reducing this to "target player or planeswalker" to further limit its utility and make it more reasonable as a common.
I might reduce the starting loyalty to two, and change the mana cost to (so far, I think they're all pretty consistent at the 1XX level, provided the loyalties are adjusted accordingly). I would consider bumping this up to , due to the card being at common, depending on the removal situation in the hypothetical set.
One, with the potential for three, +1/+1 counters should probably cost more than . Again, I think you can probably get away with , and even keep the loyalty at 3.
Norina's Apprentice - five loyalty is way, way too high for this effect. That's a whole lot of cards it could potentially draw. To keep with the theme I have been using, I think 2 or 3 loyalty would be appropriate for that cost. Leaning toward 2 to make this more palatable as a common.
Moving on to the creatures:
Elvish Mulchkeeper - while Green can draw cards, it's usually in conjuction with lands ( Abundant Growth ), creature power ( Abzan Beastmaster ), or a combat trick ( Aggressive Urge ). It's a pretty big bend of the colour pie to have this type of card draw on a Green creature.
The repeatable shuffling your library is also not ideal--shuffling takes time and is not fun for anyone, and there are enough ways to untap creatures that you could have multiple shuffles in a single turn. That's a nightmare to play with or against.
You could probably do something a bit more green. : Reveal the top card of your library. If it is a land you may put it in your hand."
Counters are players are a bit annoying to keep track of, but there is precedent for it. White also has the ability to search for basic Plains, so, while it's a bit of a bend, it's on the acceptable side.
It's hard to evaluate this card in a vacuum, as I don't know how easy it would be to get service counters. I kind of like the concept, in that it's a decent card at any point in the game.
Scaletian Dreadbeast - the proper language is "Spend only mana produces by basic lands to cast Scaletian Dreadbeast." (Source: Imperiosaur I think this might be too aggressively costed and could be either a 4/2 or one mana more, just to avoid a Tarmogoyf situation, but I think you could probably get away with this in a non-standard set.
Drow Ascendant - As others mentioned, Regenerate has fallen out of use because it was not an intuitive mechanic (removing the creature from combat does not follow from the word itself; replacement effects trip up players; etc.).
This is an extremely problematic card though. Turn 4, Drow Ascendant into a turn 5 Fatal Push for a blood counter, then Damnation with regenerate/indestructible means you can keep this from being wrathed and then swing for a huge amount of damage.
I would probably leave it with the firebreathing and ping ability.
Gleeful Pyre - Nope. There is no reason for this card to exist. Functionally, it's the same as "You may have four copies of Gleeful Pyre and four copies of Lightning Strike in your deck." There might be some use for it in Standard, but standard usually has enough two mana burn spells floating about that I don't see the first ability as ever being all that relevant.
Book of knowledge - the language should read:
[mana cost], tap: Search target player's library for a card and exile it face down. Then that player shuffles their library. (source Praetor's Grasp
Then, as a separate static ability:
You may look at and play cards exiled with Book of Knowledge.
1 year ago
Well, if you don't mind something risky Quest for Pure Flame is a cheap 1-drop that'll let your friend double burn damage for a turn. (and he can stack it.) Cards like Staggershock (also cheap) will let your friend keep resouce parity while putting counters on Quest. And Young Pyromancer, I'm sorry to say is absolute gold in burn decks, but also not as budget as the others. Also, I'd add about eight more mountains and four Magmatic Insights to smooth out draws.
1 year ago
Because I've just playtested your deck and the late game is about drawing cards and removal, but no pay-off. And a single Bojuka Bog main? I don't want to sound harsh but your deck desperately needs help IMO. Put some Striped Riverwinder or something. And land-lifegain is fun but 4 Radiant Fountain AND Ash Barrens is quite an unhealthy land-base.
I see on your profile that you have a lot of Pauper decks. I presume you're familiar with the format XD But this deck is quite unfinished. It's cool thought to see a UR deck that doesn't run Delver of Secrets Flip nor is blitz storm, so you have my upvote. This format needs more midrang-ish deck if you ask me, we need more flavor, keep it going :D
1 year ago
Never missed the deck premise. Just think that there should be some traditional strategies. If you want to run Firesong and Sunspeaker and top it off with a Resevoir. You need more cheap spells to make it reliable. I would be running atleast 10 cheap burn and 5 big burn spells. Magma Jet, Fiery Impulse, Thunderous Wrath, Staggershock, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Helix, Chain Lightning with bigger spells like Earthquake and Starstorm.
You would also want to top it off with guys like Monastery Mentor, Soul-Scar Mage, Young Pyromancer, Guttersnipe, Bedlam Reveler who all benefit from playing lots of spells and add an advantage by playing spells
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