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Toralf, God of Fury
Legendary Creature — God
Whenever a creature or planeswalker an opponent controls is dealt excess noncombat damage, Toralf deals damage equal to the excess to any target other than that permanent.
Lhunthane on Birgi
2 months ago
Hey here is some thoughts I have on the deck. The comments are through the lens of trying to be very competitive.
With Birgi, the strongest win condition is storming out and clapping all of your opponent's cheeks in one fell swoop. The best way to achieve this is comboing out as opposed to going for a lot of chip damage. Chip damage by its very nature takes time and is hard to make work in a competitive meta (maybe in some form of stax it could work). Your deck list appears to have its foot in both doors which is fun and cool, but ultimately reduces the overall lethality of the deck.
The problem with mono-red as a top-tier EDH colour is that it is very limited in tutors, which makes it difficult to find your win conditions consistently. To overcome this, a player needs to put in a few win conditions and the ability to dig for them in the deck. You really are on the right track I think with all the cantrip and impulse draw spells. Dragon's Rage Channeler filters like a champ in this deck, and synergizes very well with Past in Flames and Underworld Breach
You have Grapeshot which is great, but if you were to also throw in an Aetherflux Reservoir and Manaform Hellkite you would be set up. Grinning Ignus with Birgi, God of Storytelling Flip gives you infinite storm. Add a Ruby Medallion to turn this into infinite mana, and a Impact Tremors or Altar of the Brood for an additional win con. Also quite funny with Sunbird's Invocation. You can tutor for the Ingus pretty reliably with Imperial Recruiter and Flamekin Harbinger.
So I realize this is turning into a small essay so I'll try to keep it a little briefer.
If you take the path of trying to combo, some cuts I'd make because they either are clunky, work towards a different win con, or just don't generate a ton of value are: Insurrection Captain Lannery Storm Quakebringer Toralf, God of Fury Flip Blindblast Traitorous Blood Experimental Frenzy
If you are going to all-in commit to just combing off with ingus (which I think you should) also consider cutting: Sulfuric Vortex Stigma Lasher Solphim, Mayhem Dominus Torbran, Thane of Red Fell Mechanized Warfare
I can talk on and on and on about theory for this deck so just hit me up if you want more insight. You know what you're doing, so obviously ignore me if this "deck primer" doesn't suit you at all!
TheoryCrafter on FLING THE BURN
2 months ago
Have you considered Soul-Scar Mage? This will not only give them Wither, it will practically make most of your instants, sorceries and activated abilities board wipes once All Will Be One enters the battlefield.
May I also recommend cards that don't target including, but not limited to Anger of the Gods, Blazing Volley and Scouring Sands to get around cards that grant some sort of Hexproof, Protection, Shroud and/or Ward?
Plus, with all the looting going on you may want to consider cards with Flashback(including, but not limited to Increasing Vengeance, Past in Flames and Seize the Storm) and Madness(including, but not limited to, Avacyn's Judgment and Fiery Temper).
Other cards to consider are Bearer of the Heavens(if you're feeling really spiteful), Burning Anger and Toralf, God of Fury Flip.
I hope this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!
Gilver on A Series Of Choices
3 months ago
KBK7101 Thank you for your feedback!
Toralf, God of Fury Flip seems a bit slow in this deck and can be underwhelming most of the time. Most of my equipments have low CMC in order to have my commander be equiped by turn 4 or 5.
I was disappointed when Sword of Forge and Frontier was revealed....would rather slot in one of the other swords if I got my hands on them. Furthermore, giving my commander protection from red, makes me unable to equip him with my red equipment spells or traget him with my red spells. The new "For Mirrodin!" equipments have high equipment costs and I do not want to have equiped tokens in this deck, but have my commander be equiped, so they are not really worth it.
KBK7101 on A Series Of Choices
3 months ago
Tetsuo, Imperial Champion is such a cool card. A bit... "difficult" to build around, for sure, but he has such an interesting design that it's one of those commanders that I've wanted to build around since release and is always on my "next deck" radar.
Thoughts on Toralf, God of Fury Flip? The attack trigger damage from Tetsuo can turn into a pseudo board-wipe if he has a big enough equipment on him.
I don't know if I have any other recommendations for the deck but I definitely recommend checking out the new cards from Phyrexia: All Will Be One and it's commander decks. There's a good handful of cards there that may be of interest. Namely Hexplate Wallbreaker (not on Tappedout yet), Sword of Forge and Frontier and Dragonwing Glider.
KBK7101 on Alternative themes/gimmick EDH deck ideas
4 months ago
Whenever anyone asks this kind of question, I always default back to my favorite sets/planes. And also Rule 0 partner decks. lol
I apologize in advance if none of these are the kind of thing that you're looking for.
I really enjoy my Satsuki, the Living Lore deck. Most, if not all, of the relevant sagas are all cheap and some of the best cards in the deck that care about counters (like Power Conduit and Nesting Grounds along with various proliferate cards) were reprinted in New Capenna's Brokers commander deck, so those are also pretty cheap. Add in cards like Historian's Boon, Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle and any constellation/enchantress effects you see fit and that's pretty much the core of the deck right there.
Kairi, the Swirling Sky is a really fun clones deck that I use on Arena's Historic Brawl format. Basic gameplan is to make as many copies of Kairi as possible, only to watch them die to the legend rule and benefit from the death triggers.
Toralf, God of Fury Flip is another deck that I have and really enjoy. It makes mono red burn possible in commander, and the way that Toralf interacts with damage doublers such as Dictate of the Twin Gods means that the "trample" damage your spells have get amplified for each creature you kill with it. I have a better description of it on my deck's page, if you're interesting (not trying to self-advertise, I promise). Not sure how well this deck could be built on a budget as I'm not sure how much the damage doubling cards are at the moment (as they're kind of crucial).
Any of the five Amonkhet gods. Oketra the True, Kefnet the Mindful, Bontu the Glorified, Hazoret the Fervent and Rhonas the Indomitable never get as much love as the Theros gods and it makes me sad (because Amonkhet is my favorite plane). Their drawbacks are fairly substantial, I will admit, so they're a bit of a challenge to build. Might be what you're looking for?
Ghen, Arcanum Weaver but as an aristocrats style deck where you sacrifice enchantment creatures like Nyxborn Rollicker, Hopeful Eidolon and Gnarled Scarhide to recur stuff like Doomwake Giant. Could also be a hybrid enchantress kind of deck if you lean heavily into the Bestow mechanic. (Hm. I actually really like this idea...)
You could also run some "illegal" partners. I usually only try to do this if they have some sort of story significance, though. For example, I have a young Urza, Powerstone Prodigy and Mishra, Excavation Prodigy precon power leveled deck that I love. Hans Eriksson and Saffi Eriksdotter is one I've wanted to build for a while. Also maybe Gisa the Ghoulcaller and Stitcher Geralf? Or their newer versions, Geralf, Visionary Stitcher and Gisa, Glorious Resurrector? Stuff like that.
Dazard on pew = PEW PEW PEW (Ghyrson Starn)
5 months ago
Thank you for your suggestions. really interesting stuff!
@DreadKhan: i didn't know about the transmute mechanic, so i will def. swap Dizzy Spell for Fabricate as it is much more budget friendly (even tho i was excited about having a reason to get that admech artwork card). great advice! Shadowspear and Resurrection Orb would be a great additions but both are too costly for my thin wallet ;)
@carpecanum: Toralf, God of Fury Flip is a great addition! i just had to made room for him, so i took Burn Down the House out even tho it hurts a little to loose a sorcery in this deck. Interestingly, reading the ruletext closely, i don't even have to be the one dealing the damage to make him trigger, right? I would love to add Wojek Embermage but i really don't know which card i should cut then? maybe The Locust God and say completely goodbye to the 1/1 token subtheme?
carpecanum on pew = PEW PEW PEW (Ghyrson Starn)
5 months ago
I haven't made a deck with this commander yet but I want to. It's a little too close to my pinger deck for me to really get motivated for it though (Yeah, sure. Keranos will work). I should probably try to simply swap commanders. You can tell by the name I already had a deck and just wanted a commander with any synergy at all.
Cards I thought might be cool here include Toralf, God of Fury Flip, Neko-Te, Wojek Embermage, Cosmotronic Wave.
Deathtouch kills with 1 point so Toralf will kill 3 creatures with a 1 point ping. You get to move lots of damage around if the enemy had an army of 1/1's and you do a point to all of them. Wojek Embermage can kill an army if your boss in off board with a deathtouch artifact or even more if your boss is active. Neko-Te takes out creatures with Indestructible.
SacredAtsira on Watch the World Burn Rebooted!
10 months ago
I HIGHLY recommend Toralf, God of Fury Flip for a deck such as this. It plus a Blasphemous Act or better yet, Star of Extinction with a midgame board just wins on the spot.
I had a Toralf deck but since now have a Florian, Voldaren Scion deck that functions much the same but has more of a fighting chance for other people.
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